Trump audience member yells Nazi salute as protester removed from Las Vegas rally

a reply to: neo96

Socialist. Nazis weren't Socialist and calling them Socialist is like calling The Democratic Republic of the Congo a Democracy. We've gone over this before. Others have gone over it with you before so you should know all of this. So I'm not going to bother going into why you are wrong. You clearly don't care.

a reply to: introvert

I mean Trump is evil but so is Hillary Clinton. Two extremes and both equally scary. I'm a registered independent and am so depressed watching how divided my country has become.

Sad time to be an American

Clearly just a RL troll. Hilarious.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

For crying out loud.

Really sitting there saying 2+2=5

Here it is AGAIN:

he National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: About this sound Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: introvert

I mean Trump is evil but so is Hillary Clinton. Two extremes and both equally scary. I'm a registered independent and am so depressed watching how divided my country has become.

Sad time to be an American

Hillary is just as bad, but the topic is the people they draw-in. Surely Clinton has her nutters, but I've yet hear her supports burst-out like this at a rally.

a reply to: neo96

Yea, crying out loud indeed...

Democratic Republic of the Congo. So is the Congo a Democracy or a Republic?

Just a perfect example of TPTB agenda of dividing the sheeple so they can control us...

originally posted by: jobless1
a reply to: introvert

#3 trumps daughter married a jew so the kkk gets behind trump lol Trumps support for Israel will also draw in the KKK members and white supremacist to his rally. -this line of reasoning makes no sense

Well Trump's Dad was named as one of the arrested during a riot between the KKK and police...

In an article subtitled "Klan assails policeman", Fred Trump is named in among those taken in during a late May "battle" in which "1,000 Klansmen and 100 policemen staged a free-for-all." At least two officers were hurt during the event, after which the Klan's activities were denounced by the city's Police Commissioner, Joseph A. Warren.

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Trump tried to downplay it, say at first it wasn't his Dad, then switching to "Well he was never charged..." Well I wonder what he was doing with all those KKK guys to get arrested? If I wasn't involved with them, I wouldn't even be there, let alone stick around long enough for violence to break out.

a reply to: introvert

Black lives matter totally crashed Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton speeches.but, yes I agree that Trump brings protests like crazy.

I may not agree with trump but these protests are also not needed. Let the man speak freely if enough people agree and vote we can have Hillary as a president.

I think I might be sick actually....

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Krazysh0t

For crying out loud.

Really sitting there saying 2+2=5

Here it is AGAIN:

he National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: About this sound Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (

It's the new Democratic math.

Illusions make good delusions.

a reply to: introvert

People say stupid thing and you can't screen people who attend these rallies. What I'm trying to say is that we have crazies in all parties and I'm sure democratic rallies aren't immune to hate speech

a reply to: neo96

Here you go, I found a wonderful website that lays things out:

National Socialism" includes the word "socialism", but it is just a word. Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews. In 1933, the Dachau concentration camp held socialists and leftists exclusively. The Nazis arrested more than 11,000 Germans for "illegal socialist activity" in 1936.

Debunking the Nazi's were leftist lies

Hitler was what we today would consider a far, far right facist.

If you go to far right you get Hitler. If you go to far left you get Stalin. In the end, both kid of circle back and meet one another, as both Hitler and Stalin were totalitarians.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

That is just priceless.

Went from me pointing out how wrong that 'heckler' was after the nazi comparison fell flat on it face.

To the Congo to supposed 'prove' that guy calling Trump a nazi was 'right'.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

Hilarious.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Anyone calling the right wingers 'nazi's is peddling outright lies.

Because as one moves from country to country.

Left and Right are flipped.

No country has the same political systems. There for it's a false equivalence.

But hey what do I know.

Trumps a 'nazi'.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The thing is...

"Hope & Change" are nebulous and don't really carry any kind of ideological slant.

"Make America Great Again" carries with it some kind of uber-nationalistic, fascist sentiment. I got a weird gut feeling I had heard rhetoric like "Make America Great Again" somewhere...

I finally tracked it down:

I am dying innocent. The sentence is wrong. God protect Germany and make Germany great again. Long live Germany! God protect my family!

That was from a man named Fritz Sauckel. Who's he? Apparently he was a Nazi war criminal, a bad one too:

Fritz Sauckel (October 27, 1894 – October 16, 1946) was a Nazi war criminal, who organized the systematic enslavement of millions of men and boys from lands occupied by Nazi Germany

Wikiquote

That kind of nationalistic-brainwashing that the Nazi's did to their own people seems to be something Trump is trying to leverage. Trump did have a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed and read them, according to Ivana Trump:

According to a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald Trump, now a leading Republican presidential candidate, kept a book of Hitler's speeches near his bed

Business Insider

So...from where I'm sitting it seems Trump is taking strategy from Hitler's playbook, and it seems to be working really well. I think it's partly due to the climate and atmosphere of America right now. I don't think any of his rantings and rhetoric would have worked 8 years ago.

a reply to: neo96

Um... What? Actually. Never mind. I've already said my piece and I know that I won't get anywhere except earn myself a headache talking to you.

Trump doesn't have to care he won't win any election, he's rich enough to take the hit. So he hurls insults at everyone, drawing then into arguments that derail the issues and distract everyone.

After the dust settles he'll just go back to his gold plated tower and laugh his ass off. The corporations control everything anyway, it doesn't matter who sits in the "People's office".

a reply to: JDmOKI

I agree.

But Clinton was only brought in to this discussion as a red herring. She is not the topic.

a reply to: neo96

Can you provide any specific examples to back up the claims you just made? Because even Wikipedia disagrees with you:

The terms are commonly used to describe fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature extreme nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, or reactionary views.[1] Some far-right movements, such as the Nazis, have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority or their alleged threat to the nation or state.p[2]

Wikipedia

How do you respond to that, point for point?

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
So...from where I'm sitting it seems Trump is taking strategy from Hitler's playbook, and it seems to be working really well. I think it's partly due to the climate and atmosphere of America right now. I don't think any of his rantings and rhetoric would have worked 8 years ago.

I agree with this, but (as I'm sure you are aware) I'm an avid fan of history so I can see the parallels to the past much easier than others. Though I wasn't aware about the connection to Fritz Sauckel and that is rather illuminating about Trump's game plan. I'm going to have to think on that for a bit since I was just chalking the "make america great again" rhetoric to being the exact same thing as "hope & change". Though this angle is interesting as well. Not that I didn't see it. I just didn't completely make the connection, but now that you've pointed it out it makes sense.