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Trump audience member yells Nazi salute as protester removed from Las Vegas rally

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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 10:56 AM
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Donald Trump’s rally in Las Vegas on the eve of the next GOP debate turned chaotic on Tuesday as protestors shouted slogans and audience members screamed back.



As one man was dragged away, people in the crowd variously yelled, “Shoot him!” “Kick his ass,” and “Light the motherf—-r on fire!”

A large middle aged man shouted, “Sieg heil!” — a Nazi Germany-era salute — as the protester was taken away. The man, whose motives were not clear, was far enough from the stage that it was unlikely Trump heard the remark.



“He’s a Muslim!” another man in a glittering black suit shouted as another protester was removed. “He’s a Muslim!”


This is what we have come to in this country. Politics has divided us to the point that some among us call for the deaths of those we believe oppose us.

Both sides are guilty of it. We've heard calls for police to be attacked/killed, and now we have a story like this calling for violence against a protester. The "seig heil" is also ironic considering recent conversations we have had on this forum.

Are we going to find a way to come back together to work for a better future, despite our differences, or should we just throw in the towel and head straight to civil war?

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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: introvert

The first step is to find someone willing to compromise. Although I'm a Conservative, I think Jim Webb was probably the best shot for compromise on both sides.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: introvert

While John Titor was a hoax, I am pretty impressed he was able to foresaw the division of American society. (For those of you who don't know who Titor was, he's an alleged time traveler who predicted the fracturing of American society that preceded a Second American Civil War)



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: introvert

While John Titor was a hoax, I am pretty impressed he was able to foresaw the division of American society. (For those of you who don't know who Titor was, he's an alleged time traveler who predicted the fracturing of American society that preceded a Second American Civil War)



If it happens, it won't be a north vs South deal. It'll be Right vs left.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:09 AM
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So what is the left going to compromise on.

What is the right going to compromise on?



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:10 AM
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If you study history, the idea that the American people would grow increasingly divided shouldn't be a surprise. All of this was announced, preceded and anticipated by events in the past. Everything goes in cycles...cycles with cycles within cycles.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:22 AM
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A large middle aged man shouted, “Sieg heil!” — a Nazi Germany-era salute — as the protester was taken away. The man, whose motives were not clear, was far enough from the stage that it was unlikely Trump heard the remark


Well that guy is an idiot.

Trump isn't using the American SOCIALIST workers Party for his rise to power, and unions.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:23 AM
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Shouldve booted the guy with a Hitler crush.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:24 AM
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first off I need to know the context in why this man was being removed from the rally- gives me a suspicious reason to question the story from the get go.

#2 whats the point of recording hecklers taunts.- to de-legitimize his supporters

#3 trumps daughter married a jew so the kkk gets behind trump lol Trumps support for Israel will also draw in the KKK members and white supremacist to his rally. -this line of reasoning makes no sense

#4 bad journalism with obvious liberal spin

#5 the rally wasn't a debate on gun control and the hecklers taunt of the German nazi salute was probably aimed more at calling the protester a nazi. common sense would tell you that the heckler was calling the protester hitler by giving him the nazi salute and yelling sieg heil at him. But to be honest sieg heil is going to be a poor choice of words especially at a political rally
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: neo96



A large middle aged man shouted, “Sieg heil!” — a Nazi Germany-era salute — as the protester was taken away. The man, whose motives were not clear, was far enough from the stage that it was unlikely Trump heard the remark


Well that guy is an idiot.

Trump isn't using the American SOCIALIST workers Party for his rise to power, and unions.


Nope, he isn't. He's just spouting a bunch of xenophobic rhetoric that appeals to nazis, which is more telling of intentions than a name that you are purposely misusing to "try" to prove your point.
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: introvert

So what is the left going to compromise on.

What is the right going to compromise on?



Personal freedoms and equal application of the law is something we should all be able to get behind. Some compromise would be needed to sort that out.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
This is what we have come to in this country. Politics has divided us to the point that some among us call for the deaths of those we believe oppose us.
www.msnbc.com...]Source[/url]


Kinda like ISIS on a smaller scale. Some call for death, others actually do it.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: introvert

So what is the left going to compromise on.

What is the right going to compromise on?



Personal freedoms and equal application of the law is something we should all be able to get behind. Some compromise would be needed to sort that out.


And that's where you'll run into problems.

Freedoms should never be compromised on.

imho



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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It's called being a "populist" and an opportunist. He's appealing to the "stick it to the man" and "rebel" attitudes people find likable.

In my neo-feudalism thread I discussed how disenfranchised and powerless people feel these days -- Trump plays that chord to a "T". He gives the people the appearance that he's "fighting back" against "the man" (whomever that is...)

So even people who aren't racist in anyway are now supporting him. They just like the "rebel with an attitude" feeling they get from associating themselves with Trump. They like living vicariously through Trump, and feel empowered finally.

They're just being used, tricked, played and will soon be disappointed just like how all the "Hope & Change" folks were. The only difference is "Hope & Change" didn't carry with it the same anger, resentment, hatred and xenophobia.


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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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Sounds like Democrats are still blaming everybody else for their own guilt.

Denazification is alive and well.




posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:32 AM
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first off I need to know the context in why this man was being removed from the rally- gives me a suspicious reason to question the story from the get go


I believe it said he was disrupting Trump with BLM comments.



#2 whats the point of recording hecklers taunts.- to de-legitimize his supporters


Lot's of cell phones and cameras in that crowd. I'd say the recording was done by one of his supporters.



#3 trumps daughter married a jew so the kkk gets behind trump lol Trumps support for Israel will also draw in the KKK members and white supremacist to his rally. -this line of reasoning makes no sense


There are plenty of ignorant people that are not KKK members that could/would support Trump.



#4 bad journalism with obvious liberal spin


The video does not have a political bias. Have you watched it?



#5 the rally wasn't a debate on gun control and the hecklers taunt of the German nazi salute was probably aimed more at calling the protester a nazi.


Probably? Do you know or just speculating?



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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Nope, he isn't. He's just spouting a bunch of xenophobic rhetoric that appeals to nazis, which is more telling of intentions than a name that you are purposely misusing to "try" to prove your point.


Which doesn't make him any different than the Trumpphobes.

What was 'misused' ?



The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: About this sound Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (help·info), abbreviated NSDAP), commonly referred to in English as the Nazi Party (/ˈnɑːtsi/), was a political party in Germany active between 1920 and 1945 that practised Nazism. Its predecessor, the German Workers' Party (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei; DAP), existed from 1919 to 1920.


en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: introvert

So what is the left going to compromise on.

What is the right going to compromise on?



Personal freedoms and equal application of the law is something we should all be able to get behind. Some compromise would be needed to sort that out.


And that's where you'll run into problems.

Freedoms should never be compromised on.

imho


I agree. The compromise will be that both sides will have to allow the other to do things they may not like.

For example: The Left has to back-off of the 2nd amendment and we repeal some laws. The Right has to back-off of abortion and we repeal some laws.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:36 AM
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Yea, I agree with all of what you are saying. The nazis are just a subset of his appeal, and the source of his appeal is obvious too. But if you aren't a nazi and start to see white supremacists side with your side of the debate, you should probably reconsider where you stand...


They're just being used, tricked, played and will soon be disappointed just like how all the "Hope & Change" folks were. The only difference is "Hope & Change" didn't carry with it the same anger, resentment, hatred and xenophobia.


I've pointed out the similarities between "Hope & Change" and "Make America Great Again" so many times on these forums, but no one wants to hear any of that.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: introvert

While John Titor was a hoax, I am pretty impressed he was able to foresaw the division of American society. (For those of you who don't know who Titor was, he's an alleged time traveler who predicted the fracturing of American society that preceded a Second American Civil War)



If it happens, it won't be a north vs South deal. It'll be Right vs left.


Yep. This country is divided, not by N-S, but by L-R. Like him now or not, the best bet for a true moderate would have been Christie in 2012. The GOP establishment was begging for him to run then, but he declined. He missed his shot. Bridgegate, among other bumps in the road (no pun intended) since then ruined his chances. I'm a registered Dem and would have voted for him back then.

Edit to add Christie would have been a more appealing candidate than Romney in 2012.

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