Trump audience member yells Nazi salute as protester removed from Las Vegas rally

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: neo96

Trump isn't using the American SOCIALIST workers Party for his rise to power, and unions.

No just xenophobes and racist.

In five years i have NEVER you EVER seen you say anything nice about Israel.

So I am chalking that up to Pot/Kettle.

Israel is a country, not a person. Xenophobes and racists are people.

Oh there they have a pc word to be racist its called 'zionist'

Everyone in Israel aren't Zionist. You really don't have a clue what you are talking about do you?

hey buster, just a question to you....does it seem to you that there are a lot of young people on here, that either (A) act like they have wisdom, but don't, and/or (B) will say anything that sounds outrageous just to get a response?

I would have to say both. But you have to take into account the decline of the educational system in America. Also the younger people here in the states have been bombarded with propaganda their whole lives a lot more than when I was going up.

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: neo96

Trump isn't using the American SOCIALIST workers Party for his rise to power, and unions.

No just xenophobes and racist.

In five years i have NEVER you EVER seen you say anything nice about Israel.

So I am chalking that up to Pot/Kettle.

Israel is a country, not a person. Xenophobes and racists are people.

Oh there they have a pc word to be racist its called 'zionist'

Everyone in Israel aren't Zionist. You really don't have a clue what you are talking about do you?

Sure do.

A zionist is pretty much anyone that thinks the Jews should have a state of their own.

Lot's do.

Zionism [zahy-uh-niz-uh m] Spell Syllables Examples Word Origin noun 1. a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel.

dictionary.reference.com...

Who are the 'xenophobes' now eh ?

That would be the people who think they should have a state just for their religion if you had a clue then you would know that Zionist are xenophobes. But not everyone in Israel are Zionist this includes Christians, Muslims and Jews.

sorry buster i posted something and then saw your post never mind

a reply to: buster2010

In a statement released to the press, Trump demanded "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" — refugees, visitors, anyone.

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That's what he said.

Fearing a civil liberties backlash and "bad public relations" for the Obama administration, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson refused in early 2014 to end the secret U.S. policy that prohibited immigration officials from reviewing the social media messages of all foreign citizens applying for U.S. visas, according to a former senior department official.

Secret US Policy Blocks Agents From Looking at Social Media of Visa Applicants, Former Official Says

But hey IGNORE IT.

Trump a 'xenophobe,and a racist'.

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: introvert

While John Titor was a hoax, I am pretty impressed he was able to foresaw the division of American society. (For those of you who don't know who Titor was, he's an alleged time traveler who predicted the fracturing of American society that preceded a Second American Civil War)

If it happens, it won't be a north vs South deal. It'll be Right vs left.

Correction dumb verse dumber.

What side can out retard the other.

trump and his goons cant be racists. that was abolished centuries ago, and besides, this is America.

but, the American people will vote the right president in office this time around, wait until the world sees how smart our voters are!

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: MystikMushroom

Excellent biased sources cited in that wiki story.

Can't even get to them.

Must be fictional accounts.

So you're calling Wikipedia biased? An open-source, written by everyone source? You know anyone can edit it, right? Feel free to rewrite history as you see fit!

If that's to much trouble (you might have to create some kind of account or something...not sure) do you happen to know of a non-biased source to refute Wikipedia?

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Well it's your claims that can't seem to be verified by your sources.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: MystikMushroom

Well it's your claims that can't seem to be verified by your sources.

Similar to every thread you've ever created.

The irony.

a reply to: neo96

That isn't addressing the issue. All of those examples are red herrings and distractions away from the core issue that Nazism shares much in common with extreme right-wing America, and that Nazi's were NOT socialists, but even went to war with them (Russia was communist) -- put them in camps and made socialism illegal.

By your own wording and argumentation that "things are different in other countries" than the term "national socialist part" in Germany doesn't mean socialist as it does today, here, in America.

Have you not figured out that the MSM is doing all it can to try to make him a nut. I would suggest you read his book Crippled America.

While Social Media will be arguing and inundating you with Donald and 'washing' his hair/Hitler references/etc, current EPA policies that have been devastating to farming, development, oil and other industries based on the administration and the EPA using social media in a covert propaganda plan to gain support for Obama. Which one do you think is trending?

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: MystikMushroom

Well it's your claims that can't seem to be verified by your sources.

You do realize that every Wikipedia article has sources, and that they are listed as footnotes at the very bottom of the page, correct? Source away...

a reply to: MystikMushroom

and that Nazi's were NOT socialists,

Goebbels would disagree:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: MystikMushroom

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: MystikMushroom

Well it's your claims that can't seem to be verified by your sources.

You do realize that every Wikipedia article has sources, and that they are listed as footnotes at the very bottom of the page, correct? Source away...

Well by all means, show us how to get to and verify those "sources".

Good luck.

Pooh!
I've done that to Oliver North, Jerry Falwell and the kkk.
Never got on the news for it.
A man ahead of his time I suppose.

So if the Nazis' weren't 'socialist' ?

It is rotten and dismal that a world of so many hundred million people should be ruled by a single caste that has the power to lead millions to life or to death, indeed on a whim...This caste has spun its web over the entire earth; capitalism recognizes no national boundaries...Capitalism has learned nothing from recent events and wants to learn nothing, because it places its own interests ahead of those of the other millions. Can one blame those millions for standing up for their own interests, and only for those interests? Can one blame them for striving to forge an international community whose purpose is the struggle against corrupt capitalism? Can one condemn a large segment of the educated Sturmer youth for protesting against the greatest ability? Is it not an abomination that people with the most brilliant intellectual gifts should sink into poverty and disintegrate, while others dissipate, squander, and waste the money that could help them? … You say the old propertied class also worked hard for what it has. Granted, that may be true in many cases. But do you also know about the conditions under which workers were living during the period when capitalism “earned” its fortune?

We are against the political bourgeoisie, and for genuine nationalism! We are against Marxism, but for true socialism! We are for the first German national state of a socialist nature! We are for the National Socialist German Workers’ Party!

The worker in a capitalist state—and that is his deepest misfortune—is no longer a living human being, a creator, a maker. He has become a machine. A number, a cog in the machine without sense or understanding. He is alienated from what he produces.”

Lenin is the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between Communism and the Hitler faith is very slight.

To be a socialist means to let the ego serve the neighbour, to sacrifice the self for the whole. In its deepest sense socialism equals service. The individual refrains and the commonwealth demands. Frederick the Great was a socialist on a king's throne. "I'm the first servant of the state." A kingly socialist saying. Property is theft – so says the mob. Each to his own – so says the personality.

en.wikiquote.org...

What were they ?

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: RomeByFire

Fascism rejects assertions of violence automatically being negative in nature and views political violence, war, and imperialism as means that can achieve national rejuvenation.[8][9][10][11]

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Thats calling it like it is.

Saw the proof in that pudding during the Occupy movement, and Ferguson, and BLM.

Fascists saw World War I as a revolution that brought revolutionary changes in the nature of war, society, the state, and technology.

See it again with the push of alternative energies, and the CLAIM of owning the entire planet.

Fascists view World War I as having made liberal democracy obsolete, and regard total mobilization of society under a totalitarian single-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties.[7

We also see it how some people think there should be one party rule.

Left wingers need to face the facts.

Fascism/Nazism has more in common with the LEFT than the right.

And that isn't even including the LEFT's xenophobic tirades about rich people,bankers,gun owners,ceo's, and Monstanto and GMO,Christians, and Jews.

Neo - I have told you this before, I am not a LIBERAL.

Nor am I a CONSERVATIVE.

"Fascism/Nazism" supposed relation to the "left/right," has no relevance in my opinion.

"Insert blank here," needs to face the facts.

People who still believe in the partisan paradigm need to face the facts on super PAC's, special interest groups, corporate welfare, a "free market," bailing out banks without consent from those bailing out, corporate-owned media, fractional reserve banking, quantitative easing, the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, ALEC (as well as numerous other corporate-influenced legislation), Citizens United, etc etc.

But hey - my comments have no weight in the era of "LET'S BLAME EVERYBODY THAT'S NOT LIKE ME!"

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: MystikMushroom

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: MystikMushroom

Well it's your claims that can't seem to be verified by your sources.

You do realize that every Wikipedia article has sources, and that they are listed as footnotes at the very bottom of the page, correct? Source away...

Well by all means, show us how to get to and verify those "sources".

Good luck.

You have one poster vehemently against wiki for its "sources" not being credible.

You have another poster, using wiki as their source for their arguments.

Which one is it?

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: MystikMushroom

and that Nazi's were NOT socialists,

Goebbels would disagree:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

No, the Nazi's weren't socialists...

Have a look at this passage from the book "Understanding the F-word: American Fascism and the Politics of Illusion" by David McGowan, right here on page 244:



And furthermore, here's a really good summary refuting your claims, especially since it seems these "leftist/socialist" claims are recently being pushed by conservatives pretty hard:

Summary

Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named “National Socialist.” But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production. In Nazi Germany, private capitalist individuals owned the means of production, and they in turn were frequently controlled by the Nazi party and state. True socialism does not advocate such economic dictatorship — it can only be democratic. Hitler’s other political beliefs place him almost always on the far right. He advocated racism over racial tolerance, eugenics over freedom of reproduction, merit over equality, competition over cooperation, power politics and militarism over pacifism, dictatorship over democracy, capitalism over Marxism, realism over idealism, nationalism over internationalism, exclusiveness over inclusiveness, common sense over theory or science, pragmatism over principle, and even held friendly relations with the Church, even though he was an atheist.

Source

So yeah, he hated Marxists...gained power through a "populist movement" and then maintained his stranglehold through crazy nationalistic tyranny.

If you were to go to the actual extreme left, you'd end up with Lenin or Stalin.

I guess ALL the horrible tyrants of history are ALL lefitst, liberal socialists? Hmmmm

a reply to: neo96

That's what he said.

And why did he say that? Because he fears Muslims. You posted the definition of what a xenophobe is no go reread it.

But hey IGNORE IT.

You do know that anyone can use any name on social media sites right? Oh I guess not.

Trump a 'xenophobe,and a racist'.

Yes he is like I said you have no clue.