Left Wing Extremism? What Left Wing Extremism?

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You need to step away from the propaganda, man. Your posts are comparable to a crazed lunatic that is obsessed with socialism, communism, BLM and Leftists. And it appears that you get your information from blogs.

The word 'alarmist' seems to fit nicely.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Terrible history. Glad we won the war. But I want to be the kind of socialist democracy like Canada and the other modern countries have. If you want every family to be an island, then give them 160 acres for free. Oh we, America did that once, huh.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Every ideology is extremist, when compared to an opposing ideology. I'll bet that even ISIS members don't consider themselves extremist.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

"Left wing Extremism" is a catch all used by Authority's to categorise social justice campaigners of all ilk's weather it be freedom of speech or even justice campaign's, anti war etc but usually Religious
terrorists are categorised as being Right Wing extremists but these days more often the "Right Wing" is replaced with the name of there religion.

It is actually a fact that Europe at the moment is under the control of a group of RIGHT WING extremist terrorist whom are also called the Bilderbergers and history will remember them as exactly that.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Though a lot of your claims are delusional, propaganda (the very same propaganda we were TRYING to talk about in the other thread) induced... Left Wing extremism exists, always has and probably always will. It's a problem, one I don't think anyone including the MSM deny. In fact it's far more readily talked about and ACKNOWLEDGED, than Right Wing extremism.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Never claimed most of all Muslims were Republican supporters. I said that 'extremist' Muslims are all conservative (by definition actually), rather than progressives.

Except that by definition they are very socialistic... The good of the whole comes first in Islamic societies. Hence when a man or woman commit a crime, he/she doesn't have a fair trial, but the majority decide what to do with them. Islam is very socialist, and the large majority of Muslims, all over the world vote for left winger parties... Which is why leftist parties would do anything to get a bigger Muslim migration into Europe. How does that make them conservatives?

Muslim voters got François Hollande, a socialist, into the Elysée Palace. HOw does that make them conservatives?

Hello to my American friends,

As you know, the Socialist François Hollande won the presidential elections in France, last Sunday. It is a catastrophe for France!

Hollande was elected by the Muslims. A survey (of 10,000 Muslims) shows that 93% of the Muslims voted for him.

As 2 million Muslims participated in this election, Hollande got 1,720,000 Muslim votes more than Sarkozy did: (0.93-0.07) x 2,000,000 = 1,720,000. But at the end, from the entire population, he got only 1,139,316 votes more than Sarkozy. So, without the Muslims' votes, Sarkozy would have been re-elected.

All the Muslim criminals feel now empowered. Criminality is already on the rise (1,700 cars were burnt in France for the first night). Muslims are screaming anti-French and anti-Jews watchwords in our streets. Veiled women, wearing the illegal burqa, are strolling in our streets. And, as if this wasn't enough, Hollande wants to give to all the foreigners the right to vote in our elections!! France will face a very hard situation. We are heading for civil war in a few years.

That's the last news from occupied France.
Maxime Lépante.

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In Britain, the majority of Muslims vote for the Labour party, a center-left political party.

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Politics

Muslims are playing an increasingly prominent role in political life.[69] There are currently eight Muslim MPs[70] and twelve Muslim Peers (there have historically been about fourteen, starting with Lord Stanley, a peer that lived in the 19th century). The majority of British Muslims vote for the Labour Party,[71] however there are some high profile Conservative Muslims, including former Minister for Faith and Communities and former Co-Chairman of the Conservative Party Sayeeda Warsi and Economic Secretary to the Treasury Sajid Javid,[72] described by The Guardian as a 'rising star' in the Tory party.[73] The Guardian stated that "The treasury minister is highly regarded on the right and would be the Tories' first Muslim leader." Salma Yaqoob is the former leader of the left-wing Respect Party.[74] Sayeeda Warsi, who was the first Muslim to serve in a British cabinet, was appointed by David Cameron in 2010 as a minister without portfolio. She was made a senior minister of state in 2012. In August 2014 she resigned over the government's approach to the 2014 Israel-Gaza conflict
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In the United States, the large Muslim majority vote democrat as well. So, again, how does that make them conservatives?

Can we please all wear badges on our sleeves (and have icons on our avatars) to be able to distinguish between these left wings and right wings?

That would be most helpful, as I, like many, many here as of late have been called many things, and I am just not sure who I am, so a badge or icon would really help me remember.

Thanks.

a reply to: Kali74

Really? is that why right after we had another mass murder by a very liberal radical Muslim and his radical Muslim wife ATS decides to keep on bashing all conservatives, and labeled the undercover videos of PP as "right wing extremism"?

You don't acknowledge the left wing extremist problem, and the "radical Muslim problem" by attacking conservatives right after a very liberal, radical Muslim and his wife murdered 14 people and wounded 21 people...

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I don't think Muslims generally fall across the political axis of Right v Left. Compare Turkey with Saudi Arabia or Qatar with Malaysia - very different societies under Islamic rule. The religious denomination (sects etc) seem to mix with culture to dictate policies.

I agree, but in America they definitely vote Liberal. One would think otherwise, it's very interesting.

There's a few reasons for that:

It's in their best interest as Americans to get the GOP out as they're less likely to be persecuted by their government if the GOP is gone.

Many Muslims in the West actually are more moderate or liberal and don't believe in theocratic rule which is why they came to the West.

Home grown or resident Muslim extremists and terrorists tend to want theocratic rule which places them on the far Right but they don't tend to engage in the actual political process, they want to destroy it either by words in hopes of keeping Muslims disenfranchised or by action.

a reply to: Kali74

So in other words, even when it is proven to you that Muslim radicals tend to be left wingers, such as the very liberal Seyd Farook and his wife, you among other people claim that radical Muslims are on the far right of the political spectrum?... Really? since when being very liberal falls in the far right of the political spectrum?...

Even when it is shown that around the world the majority of Muslims tend to vote for left winger parties, in your book they fall in the right side of the political spectrum... interesting...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Why are the San Bernadino terrorists Liberal? And why do you not realize that the San Bernadino event happened only six days after the Colorado event? The two Islamic Terrorists are dead, their motivations immediately known whereas the Christian Terrorist's motivations are just becoming clear. Dear is still alive with an active case.

No one is saying that San Bernadino shouldn't be talked about, it's important to know their ties etc...

a reply to: Kali74

Because Seyd Farook described himself as being very liberal in his profile at Arab Lounge...

The Young Couple Accused in Massacre in San Bernardino

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Another profile portrayed a man trying to balance his faith and modern life.

“I try to live as a good Muslim,” Farook writes. “Looking for a girl who has the same outlook, wear hijab, but live the life to the fullest."

On the same page, Farook, who graduated in 2010 from Cal State San Bernardino, preaches his love of snowboarding, camping, and working on cars, and further describes his personality as cautious, reserved, skeptical and very liberal.
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abcnews.go.com...

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a reply to: ElectricUniverse
He said his personality was liberal. Compared to what cause the lib women I know don't wear hijab, drink, work outside of home and are pro abortion.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yeah... he was looking for a wife. He probably was much more moderate and liberal before but his wife seems to have radicalized him or maybe he was radicalized when he went over to the ME to meet her.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Disagree on that.
The point is they are both totalitarian.
They try to put on a self righteous fragrance but they both stink.

Did you know some of the firearms used in the Paris attack came from a gun dealer in Florida? I made a post about it here:

Gun linked to Paris attacks traced back to Florida arms dealer implicated in Iran-Contra scandal

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

As i remember you claimed the fake whitening of Mercer was made up by Republicans, when in actuality when another member pointed out an earlier post of the whitened photo, it was actually done by mostly white gays, and transvestites who kept on bashing right wing Americans. One of them even asked in the social media "are we going to make him whiter"?... I SHOWED YOU this fact, and you continue to ignore it. The people who started the fake whitening of Mercer were left leaning. Some of the people posting in that social media network were also involved as journalists.

No, I didn't ignore what you said then and I'm not ignoring it now. You were wrong. Here's the exchange.

You based your whole theory about the person in question based on his facetious Twitter profile in which he was OBVIOUSLY trolling:

Trans-African-American, Jewish, #NAACP St.Louis Representative, Preferred pronouns: They, It

Really? Trans-African-American Jewish? Preferred pronoun "it?" Do yourself a favor and update your information.

It matters a lot because of the mentality of "me, me, me" from the welfare state and many left leaning Americans. Elliot Roger was a left-winger who thought that women SHOULD respond to him. Since he didn't get what he wanted he decided to murder people..

Uh. Is this a discussion or are you going to just say off the wall nonsense because there's no talking to somebody who will resort to insanity rather than concede a point.

What? that he enjoyed the craziness from National SOCIALISTS?.. After all the NAZIS were National SOCIALISTS despite the continuous attempts from the left to claim this is not true...

Actually the Nazis were extreme right-wing fascists. You do realize that they could have called themselves the "National Part of Unicorn Loving Rainbow Warriors" and it wouldn't have changed WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WERE.

For instance, the official name of North Korea is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Is North Korea a Democratic Republic?

So don't try to take out of context my comments. There is a big difference between "concern for environment" and a completely different things known as environmental extremism"... You obviously seem to claim that if people are not into environmental extremism/terrorism then they are not concerned for the environment?... Is that what you are implying here?

No and please don't pretend to be offended and try to turn your BS around on me. You're the one making all sorts of asinine claims. You said that his militant environmentalism proves his leftist affiliation. It's obvious that you associate environmentalism with the left-wing though in actuality, people from either side of the political spectrum can be environmentalist. I simply pointed out that you seem to believe otherwise.

Really? because first of all he was a Muslim radical, and according to CAIR the large majority of Muslims vote democrat. On that fact alone it would be more likely that he was a democrat.

Do you forget the fact that CAIR itself states that the large majority of Muslims in the United States vote democrat?

In the 2012 election more than 85% of American Muslims voted for Barack Obama. in the 2008 election 89% of American Muslims voted for Barack Obama... The odds are against you that Hasan was not a democrat...

What are you implying exactly? That most American Muslims are jihadists? No? Then what does how they voted have to do with the political leanings of Hasan, a jihadist? Nothing.

As for the Presidential Task Force thing.

NPR - Story Debunked About Fort Hood Suspect And Presidential Transition

Corsi's report, by the way, does something of a U-turn about midway through. "While the GWU task force participants included several members of government, including representatives of the Department of Justice and the U.S Department of Homeland Security," he writes, "there is no indication in the document that the group played any formal role in the official Obama transition, other than to serve in a university-based advisory capacity."

And an "editor's note" attached to Corsi's story after its publication says "Hasan is being reported as a participant in the GWU Homeland Security Policy Institute's Presidential Transition Task Force, not as a member, noting the group was a university think-tank, not part of the Obama administration official transition team."

Seriously, instead of posting text walls of debunked nonsense, why don't you put in a little extra effort to make sure what you're excerpting is accurate?

Yeah well, it's what you claim without showing any actual proof of it...

Actually I did but I'll repost the link and add a few more.

Fact Check: Email was wrong about recent mass killers being liberals
The idea that recent mass shooters are mostly registered Democrats is a myth
Debunking Right Wing Bullsh!t: All Mass Killers Are ‘Liberal’

I'm sure you have search engine access, use it? Let's not forget you're the one making outlandish claims with no "proof" except a friggin' chain email.

There are a number of Left Wing Extremist groups that have staged attacks in the US.

PETA, Earth First, earth liberation front. CrimethInc, Animal Rights Militia, Committee for Liquidation and Subversion of Computers (CLODO), Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, Animal Liberation Front (ALF),and a large number of anarchist groups.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Can we please all wear badges on our sleeves (and have icons on our avatars) to be able to distinguish between these left wings and right wings?

That would be most helpful, as I, like many, many here as of late have been called many things, and I am just not sure who I am, so a badge or icon would really help me remember.

Thanks.

Oh sweetie, you don't need one. Anyone who pays attention has you firmly locked into the brigade.
A liberal's liberal.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Have there been white supremacists who have also murdered innocents? Sure, recent ones include:

Robert Lewis Dear, the PP shooter.

Dylann Storm Roof the shooter at a historic black church in Charleston, S.C.

and Wade Michael Page.

But how many others were left leaning, and/or Islamic extremists and left leaning?

The most recent atrocious act was committed by Islamic radicals and the official posture of the mass media and ATS is to deflect the facts and instead keep on bashing Americans with a political leaning to the right?

USA :: Criminal Acts :: Print this Article
WHY ARE MOST MASS MURDERERS DEMOCRATS?
05-27-2014 7:19 pm - JoeForAmerica.com

THE LIST:.

- Elliot Rodger - Santa Barbara Shooter - Liberal-Democrat

- Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Reg­istered Democrat and Muslim.

- Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter

- Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.

- James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu­py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.

- Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.

- Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat

- James J. Lee who was the “green activist”/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel – progressive liberal Democrat.

- Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.

- Ohio bomb plot Perps were occupy Wall St leftists.

- Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters – families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.

- Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat.

- Lee Harvey Oswald, Socialist, Communist and Democrat – killed Kennedy…
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Read more at joeforamerica.com...

I think once you stray into 'extremism' or 'terrorism' by definition it is 'authoritarianism'. You can have left or right authoritarianism (Stalinism or Fascisim).

On the whole when you've become an 'extremist' you, by definition, are leaning right or conservative or 'one of those that thinks people have to be controlled (and do what you want).

Generally the left tends to pluralism, tolerance and democracy.

I have found many 'leftists' that are very extreme and intolerant of other ideas and practices. But I do find almost all 'rightists' to be intolerant.

Extremism is a result of the pathological need to control others regardless of your 'justification'.

Equating 'Islamic Extremists' with the left is a monstrous error as they are conservative (meaning right-leaning) in the 'Extreme'. A left leaning Islamic denomination would be the Sufis who are being systematically oppressed by the Whahabbi conservatives (read Saudis) that support 'Islamic Extremism".