While You Were Sleeping: 44% of Republicans Favor an American Theocracy

They really want a theocracy: The GOP candidates who want to make you bow to their lord

A new PPP survey reveals that Republicans are afflicted most, with 44 percent now favoring installing Christianity as the United States’ official religion.

Falling deeper into the belief that the first amendment only matters when you want your opinion heard, the leading (in some polls) GOP candidate for the presidency wants America to follow his interpretation of the Bible.

That's right everyone, you can practice any religion you want in America...so long as you accept Christ as your savior.

Since this thread seems in response to the earlier thread in regards to Democrats favoring Socialism at around a 50% rate I would like to know if you consider Socialism the religion of the left and Christianity the religion of the right? It is an interesting premise and seems to be what you are saying with this response thread.

Personally I don't want to be Christian or Socialist. I suppose that puts me somewhere in the middle.

originally posted by: Metallicus
Since this thread seems in response to the earlier thread in regards to Democrats favoring Socialism at around a 50% rate I would like to know if you consider Socialism the religion of the left and Christianity the religion of the right? It is an interesting premise and seems to be what you are saying with this response thread.

Personally I don't want to be Christian or Socialist. I suppose that puts me somewhere in the middle.

No, as economic systems and styles of government are not a religion. Religion defined:

re·li·gion/rəˈlijən/ noun the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

To the religious, the idea that someone could have no such belief is incomprehensible. I see it all the time, "no belief in religion is a religion in and of itself!"

Just like how an atheist can't wrap their head around belief in God, the theist can't wrap their head around an atheist's lack of belief in a God.

It's actually a rather amusing impasse ...

a reply to: links234

From your link: And So Do 28% Of Democrats? And 24% of Independents?

Who in the hell are they polling, what are the questions with results like this?

A shocking 28 percent of Democrats are also theocratically inclined. Just 53 percent of voters oppose making Christianity the official religion of the United States, and only 56 percent think Islam should be legal.

I would highly question this poll with these numbers.

BTW, if you were worried about a Theocracy, that would have happened already in the 50's-80's when the Religious Super Political Bodies were most popular.

The Christian boogyman is not coming to get you since they are pretty much politically weak compared to decades past and is in heavy decline.

But as already mentioned, Why is this a rebuttal to Socialism?

a reply to: Metallicus

Just a clash of ideologies and how they align between the two parties in America.

Extremism is no good in any form. Favoring socialism isn't the same as advocating for a total takeover of the economy and the implementations of gulags and beheading the rich after the next election cycle. However, declaring that Christianity becomes the 'official' religion suggests that whichever popularly elected religious sect institutes laws based on their specific belief system. It goes entirely against the constitution, but like I said, that doesn't matter to these people.

a reply to: links234

Religious nut bags scare me more than Democrats and Socialists

My faith is FAR too valuable to reliy on the current religious dogma.
I was raised as a Methodist but I found belief doesn't require a group to be satisfying.

a reply to: links234

How can we possibly create a theocracy out of a religion that has over 30,000 denominational viewpoints?

Maybe they should worry about getting all Christians united before they worry about getting the nation divided by 30,000 different groups saying we are the only ones who know the "real truth", our denomination is the only "elect".

No thank you. I don't need a religion with multiple personality disorder telling me what to believe.

And I am firm believer in Jesus....

a reply to: links234

Like Noam Chomsky said about the human hard wiring for language, there is a human hard wiring for religion.

Substitute the State for God and you have Socialism, from the same part of the brain.

a reply to: links234

OK... Really.

also from your link:

The winds of nonbelief are blowing more strongly than ever. We need to finish off faith and hasten the arrival of the day when we, as a species, free of superstition, can look each other in the eye, no matter what our nationality or skin color or gender is, and see partners, partners in making what we can of our lives.

We can defeat religion, as long as we don’t surrender first.

And again, how is this a rebuttal to Socialism?

originally posted by: MystikMushroom

originally posted by: Metallicus
Since this thread seems in response to the earlier thread in regards to Democrats favoring Socialism at around a 50% rate I would like to know if you consider Socialism the religion of the left and Christianity the religion of the right? It is an interesting premise and seems to be what you are saying with this response thread.

Personally I don't want to be Christian or Socialist. I suppose that puts me somewhere in the middle.

No, as economic systems and styles of government are not a religion. Religion defined:

re·li·gion/rəˈlijən/ noun the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

To the religious, the idea that someone could have no such belief is incomprehensible. I see it all the time, "no belief in religion is a religion in and of itself!"

Just like how an atheist can't wrap their head around belief in God, the theist can't wrap their head around an atheist's lack of belief in a God.

It's actually a rather amusing impasse ...

Religion is ritual to some, habit to others, and faith to most.

Mostly religion means doing something on faith. Faith is stronger with social support.

Socialism is a religion because it is founded on faith, the faith that everything around you is just plain there and will be there no matter what.

Funny, I always thought Jesus was a socialist?

Just saying.

originally posted by: Semicollegiate
Socialism is a religion because it is founded on faith

Belief in invisible hands requires faith as well.

Guess you're all religious nuts.

a reply to: links234

Having a subsection of US politicians delineate which religion is the most awesome or which economic and social system best fits the American population should simply reinforce to everyone that no US politicians are interested in creating jobs, upgrading domestic infrastructure, stopping wars and a myriad of other urgent issues that far outweigh what the propaganda machine is feeding to the voters.

I'd hazard a guess that a global poll would confirm that 99% of citizens would like to ban politics and jail the banksters and corporate oligarchies - after all, they're destroying not only America, but the world.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Semicollegiate
Socialism is a religion because it is founded on faith

Belief in invisible hands requires faith as well.

Guess you're all religious nuts.

Why is that?

The stuff is there, your computer for example, whether you believe in it or not.

Im more surprised that ATS continues to let Salon be posted as a reputable source, with all the lies and BS they have been caught spreading

They deliberately take things out of context, fudge numbers, and have several times had to completely retract stories

They are the bottom of the barrel in journalism, far worse then NBC , CBS or FOX

No seriously its like the National Inquirer ,except there still might be some real journalists at the National Inquirer

Common methodology is when seeing SALON attached to an article just to dismiss it as BS right off the bat

originally posted by: Semicollegiate
Why is that?

The stuff is there, your computer for example, whether you believe in it or not.

Don't know what you mean.

What does my computer have to do with invisible hands?

The number seems rather high considering the decline of religion in the US to the shift in politics, for example. Wonder if there's a better source you can provide besides Salon?

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
My faith is FAR too valuable to reliy on the current religious dogma.
I was raised as a Methodist but I found belief doesn't require a group to be satisfying.

Quite right. God and I don't need a middle-man.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Funny, I always thought Jesus was a socialist?

Just saying.

No, Jesus believed in the free will of man. Legislation of benevolence is not a free choice to be charitable.