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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Funny, I always thought Jesus was a socialist?
Just saying.
A Public Policy Polling (PPP) national survey conducted between February 20th and February 22nd of Republican voters, found that an astonishing 57 percent of Republicans want to dismantle the Constitution, and establish Christianity as the official national religion. Only 30 percent oppose making Christianity the national religion.
BTW, if you were worried about a Theocracy, that would have happened already in the 50's-80's when the Religious Super Political Bodies were most popular.
The Christian boogyman is not coming to get you since they are pretty much politically weak compared to decades past and is in heavy decline.
originally posted by: infolurker
But as already mentioned, Why is this a rebuttal to Socialism?
originally posted by: infolurker
And again, how is this a rebuttal to Socialism?
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: infolurker
But as already mentioned, Why is this a rebuttal to Socialism?
originally posted by: infolurker
And again, how is this a rebuttal to Socialism?
It isn't. The OP says nothing about socialism. Another poster brought that up as a red herring, I presume. And it worked...
There are plenty of people who would LOVE to have their religion validated by the government, but it's not going to happen. The Constitution prohibits it. These nutballs want to blatantly violate the Constitution.
originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: infolurker
BTW, if you were worried about a Theocracy, that would have happened already in the 50's-80's when the Religious Super Political Bodies were most popular.
The Christian boogyman is not coming to get you since they are pretty much politically weak compared to decades past and is in heavy decline.
Not altogether true. There is a decline to some degree among the population, and to some degree in government, but make no mistake, Christianity still weighs heavily on the U.S. We have a ways to go before any kind of balance is reached. Christian privilege is still very much alive in America.
Conscience creep: How religious freedom spiraled out of control
Does it equate to a theocracy? No. However, an official theocracy isn't necessary if Christianity maintains its privileged status, and/or increases its influence on law and policy.
originally posted by: luthier
Wow a 316 registered Republicans were surveyed. May as well put it in the hoax bin.
October 1-4, 2015
Survey of 1,338 registered voters
originally posted by: luthier
Wow a 316 registered Republicans were surveyed. May as well put it in the hoax bin.
Not to mention the article itself is terrible and uses terrible arguments salon is garbage.
I am an agnostic and an independent so I have no dog in the fight. But its just garbage as usual from Salon
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: luthier
Wow a 316 registered Republicans were surveyed. May as well put it in the hoax bin.
That's a different poll, taken in February of this year. The OP links to one taken this month, of 1138 registered voters.
KOS
Poll PDF
October 1-4, 2015
Survey of 1,338 registered voters
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: infolurker
BTW, if you were worried about a Theocracy, that would have happened already in the 50's-80's when the Religious Super Political Bodies were most popular.
The Christian boogyman is not coming to get you since they are pretty much politically weak compared to decades past and is in heavy decline.
Not altogether true. There is a decline to some degree among the population, and to some degree in government, but make no mistake, Christianity still weighs heavily on the U.S. We have a ways to go before any kind of balance is reached. Christian privilege is still very much alive in America.
Conscience creep: How religious freedom spiraled out of control
Does it equate to a theocracy? No. However, an official theocracy isn't necessary if Christianity maintains its privileged status, and/or increases its influence on law and policy.
Depends what part of the country you live in. Mostly no. In the high density population cities no. In rural America in the South yes. All in all I don't think there is such a thing as Christian privledge. Compaired to what?
If the community has Christian ideas they will be sympathetic to Christians. If you live in a Hindu area of Dallas you will have Hindu privledge. As far as Christian legislation its not prevalent. You can't control how people think and you shouldn't want to. Only nutters want that.
originally posted by: Klassified
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: infolurker
BTW, if you were worried about a Theocracy, that would have happened already in the 50's-80's when the Religious Super Political Bodies were most popular.
The Christian boogyman is not coming to get you since they are pretty much politically weak compared to decades past and is in heavy decline.
Not altogether true. There is a decline to some degree among the population, and to some degree in government, but make no mistake, Christianity still weighs heavily on the U.S. We have a ways to go before any kind of balance is reached. Christian privilege is still very much alive in America.
Conscience creep: How religious freedom spiraled out of control
Does it equate to a theocracy? No. However, an official theocracy isn't necessary if Christianity maintains its privileged status, and/or increases its influence on law and policy.
Depends what part of the country you live in. Mostly no. In the high density population cities no. In rural America in the South yes. All in all I don't think there is such a thing as Christian privledge. Compaired to what?
If the community has Christian ideas they will be sympathetic to Christians. If you live in a Hindu area of Dallas you will have Hindu privledge. As far as Christian legislation its not prevalent. You can't control how people think and you shouldn't want to. Only nutters want that.
Read the link I posted.
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Klassified
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: infolurker
BTW, if you were worried about a Theocracy, that would have happened already in the 50's-80's when the Religious Super Political Bodies were most popular.
The Christian boogyman is not coming to get you since they are pretty much politically weak compared to decades past and is in heavy decline.
Not altogether true. There is a decline to some degree among the population, and to some degree in government, but make no mistake, Christianity still weighs heavily on the U.S. We have a ways to go before any kind of balance is reached. Christian privilege is still very much alive in America.
Conscience creep: How religious freedom spiraled out of control
Does it equate to a theocracy? No. However, an official theocracy isn't necessary if Christianity maintains its privileged status, and/or increases its influence on law and policy.
Depends what part of the country you live in. Mostly no. In the high density population cities no. In rural America in the South yes. All in all I don't think there is such a thing as Christian privledge. Compaired to what?
If the community has Christian ideas they will be sympathetic to Christians. If you live in a Hindu area of Dallas you will have Hindu privledge. As far as Christian legislation its not prevalent. You can't control how people think and you shouldn't want to. Only nutters want that.
Read the link I posted.
I did.
originally posted by: olaru12
May I offer up a prayer in all sincerity?
Dear Lord,
Please protect us from your followers!
Amen
originally posted by: grandmakdw
originally posted by: luthier
Wow a 316 registered Republicans were surveyed. May as well put it in the hoax bin.
Not to mention the article itself is terrible and uses terrible arguments salon is garbage.
I am an agnostic and an independent so I have no dog in the fight. But its just garbage as usual from Salon
I taught Research Methods in Univ.
I would have given an F to any student who thought a survey of 316 people was in any way accurate.
To reach a level of accuracy one needs to survey
at least 3000 people. Any less than 3000 one has
to play with the statistics and hope the result is
reflective of the truth.
316, a joke of a survey and an F- in my class.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: luthier
I'm not making any statement except that that's a different poll. I'm not worried about a theocracy here. It's not going to happen.
Here's my position. I do believe that a substantial portion of US citizens (not just republicans), but Christians, want Christianity to hold a special place among religions, and to be acknowledged as the official religion of the US.