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While You Were Sleeping: 44% of Republicans Favor an American Theocracy

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posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 11:15 AM
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Oh Gee I thought only Moslems wanted that..
Christian Sharia for America!

Disease spreads
edit on 26-10-2015 by Willtell because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 11:30 AM
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It seems Democrats, liberals and the left in general want people very afraid of white people and Christians.



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: luthier




He is also a TV personality. People know him. It's more of a sign of idiocracy on a whole. He says dumb stuff to get in the news.


I can agree with the idiocracy part but what concerns me is all the idiots buying into the dumb stuff he says.

btw....Trump isn't an independent...he's a Republican. Lie down with dogs and expect to get a few fleas!

you scratchin amigo?



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: TheBulk
It seems Democrats, liberals and the left in general want people very afraid of white people and Christians.


if the GOP would reel in it's so-called 'tea-party' there would be no reason for concern. Actually I'm a democrat, and Christian, and the tea party frightens me tremendously.



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: TheBulk
It seems Democrats, liberals and the left in general want people very afraid of white people and Christians.


What do "white people" have to do with this??? You seem to be insinuating that Democrats, liberals and the left are NOT white people. Looking to race-bait, are ya?



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: TheBulk
It seems Democrats, liberals and the left in general want people very afraid of white people and Christians.



Donald Trump supporter, right?



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 11:52 AM
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a reply to: Semicollegiate

No, no one believes a socialist government is going to save their eternal soul. No one believes that a socialist government (or any government) is going to keep them out of hell and grant them eternal salvation in the afterlife.

People may "worship" a government for the purpose of securing a better, more comfortable existance during their Earthly life, but there is no spiritual component associated with a government.

Faith isn't a word "owned" by religion. I have faith the sun will rise. I have faith my cat likes to eat fish. I have faith that my keyboard will continue to work. I have faith in humanity and my government.

One can have faith without any kind of religious proclivities, leanings or tendencies. Faith is not exclusive to the spiritual.

You can try and do mental gymnastics all day, but a political system or style of government is an institution created by man, for man.

Governments have no "spiritual" components to them, they do not deal with the afterlife or grant supernatural miracles.

It's a ludicrous to compare the worship of a mysterious, all-powerful creator known as a "God" to political system.



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: TheBulk
It seems Democrats, liberals and the left in general want people very afraid of white people and Christians.


if the GOP would reel in it's so-called 'tea-party' there would be no reason for concern. Actually I'm a democrat, and Christian, and the tea party frightens me tremendously.



What about the tea party frightens you?

What do you think the tea party will accomplish
realistically that frightens you?



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: TheBulk
It seems Democrats, liberals and the left in general want people very afraid of white people and Christians.


Except for the Democrats, liberals, and the left in general who are White and Christian?

You guys crack me up with this false dichotomy BS.



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

Have you listened carefully to Cruz, Huckabee and Santorum?

THAT is what I'm afraid of..



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: luthier




He is also a TV personality. People know him. It's more of a sign of idiocracy on a whole. He says dumb stuff to get in the news.


I can agree with the idiocracy part but what concerns me is all the idiots buying into the dumb stuff he says.

btw....Trump isn't an independent...he's a Republican. Lie down with dogs and expect to get a few fleas!

you scratchin amigo?


Did you read my post? I wouldn't vote for him.
However I am talking about his policy issues not what he is running as.

Do you even know what his platform is or are you just towing your own party line?



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: TheBulk
It seems Democrats, liberals and the left in general want people very afraid of white people and Christians.


Except for the Democrats, liberals, and the left in general who are White and Christian?

You guys crack me up with this false dichotomy BS.


That is incorrect.

The Democrats are the party of anti-Christians
as far as I can see from the writings of Democrats on ATS.

Also, I believe it was in the last election that the Democrats
said they gave up entirely on the white working class voters and
wanted the black and hispanic vote.
caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com...

So while the statement you are refuting is not
entirely true, there is an awful lot of truth in it.


You yourself would like to see every Christian
drummed out of the Democratic Party, at least
your writings sound that way on other threads.



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 12:04 PM
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edit on 12Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:05:17 -0500pm102610pmk261 by grandmakdw because: accidental double post



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: Semicollegiate

No, no one believes a socialist government is going to save their eternal soul. No one believes that a socialist government (or any government) is going to keep them out of hell and grant them eternal salvation in the afterlife.

People may "worship" a government for the purpose of securing a better, more comfortable existance during their Earthly life, but there is no spiritual component associated with a government.

Faith isn't a word "owned" by religion. I have faith the sun will rise. I have faith my cat likes to eat fish. I have faith that my keyboard will continue to work. I have faith in humanity and my government.

One can have faith without any kind of religious proclivities, leanings or tendencies. Faith is not exclusive to the spiritual.

You can try and do mental gymnastics all day, but a political system or style of government is an institution created by man, for man.

Governments have no "spiritual" components to them, they do not deal with the afterlife or grant supernatural miracles.

It's a ludicrous to compare the worship of a mysterious, all-powerful creator known as a "God" to political system.


I think and many academics on either theist or atheist points of view would disagree.

The potential for belief system brainwashing is just as possible with government propaganda as with religion. For instance fascism and communism. They may not be using God as the belief system programming but the outcome and irrational behaviour you fear is exactly the same.

It's not mental gymnastics and its been proven by people like Hitler or Mao. I think your arguement is a semantical one at best.
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posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: luthier




He is also a TV personality. People know him. It's more of a sign of idiocracy on a whole. He says dumb stuff to get in the news.


I can agree with the idiocracy part but what concerns me is all the idiots buying into the dumb stuff he says.

btw....Trump isn't an independent...he's a Republican. Lie down with dogs and expect to get a few fleas!

you scratchin amigo?


Did you read my post? I wouldn't vote for him.
However I am talking about his policy issues not what he is running as.

Do you even know what his platform is or are you just towing your own party line?


Trump is NOT a classic Republican.

Many of his policies are actually much closer to the Democratic platform.

I think that in general people are fed up with establishment
politicians and politicians in general.
That is why Trump who is clearly not really Republican
and Carson (who is but is not a politician) are at the top
of the polls.

People are crying out, anyone please, just not another
politician.
The political class has screwed the country up so badly
we need to try something new. No establishment politician
will ever improve the country at this point, they are all
too entrenched in fund raising and placating to really
make the changes necessary.

So for the Republicans at least, when it comes to Trump,
they don't care that he is not really religious at all.
I know it is a great surprise to many of you that Republicans
care more about getting rid of the corrupt political class
who have ruined the country than religion.



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

They might be ant-Christian in their beliefs, but they certainly don't want to take your right to religious freedom away. Pray all you want, attend as many church services as you need. Donate to as many religious charity organizations as you can afford -- just don't force your beliefs on me, or try to incorporate them into new laws.

I think individually, 1-on-1 liberals and Democrats may appear "anti-Christian" -- but on a whole I think you'd find they'd be more open and supportive in allowing everyone to practice their own religious beliefs.

Christians, (from my personal experience) seem to be more intolerant of other religions, as they are seen as a form of competition. To someone who isn't religious -- they could care less who worships what, and want to see everyone's right to practice their faith protected.



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: grandmakdw

Have you listened carefully to Cruz, Huckabee and Santorum?

THAT is what I'm afraid of..



And not a one of them is anywhere close to being the nominee.

None of them will be the nominee, so that is not a
valid worry.

Look at who the top nominee is, a man who claims
to be Christian but his life and his actions are far far
from being a person of faith.
That is where the reality is.

Anyway, your answer really tells me nothing about your fear.
They all have said lots and lots of things. What have they
said specifically that has you so afraid?


edit on 12Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:13:28 -0500pm102610pmk261 by grandmakdw because: addition



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 12:14 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: grandmakdw

They might be ant-Christian in their beliefs, but they certainly don't want to take your right to religious freedom away. Pray all you want, attend as many church services as you need. Donate to as many religious charity organizations as you can afford -- just don't force your beliefs on me, or try to incorporate them into new laws.

I think individually, 1-on-1 liberals and Democrats may appear "anti-Christian" -- but on a whole I think you'd find they'd be more open and supportive in allowing everyone to practice their own religious beliefs.

Christians, (from my personal experience) seem to be more intolerant of other religions, as they are seen as a form of competition. To someone who isn't religious -- they could care less who worships what, and want to see everyone's right to practice their faith protected.


Democrats are not anti Christian. Most of the leaders in the party are church going Christians. Catholics Baptists Methodists on and on.



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: TheBulk
It seems Democrats, liberals and the left in general want people very afraid of white people and Christians.


Except for the Democrats, liberals, and the left in general who are White and Christian?

You guys crack me up with this false dichotomy BS.


That is incorrect.

The Democrats are the party of anti-Christians
as far as I can see from the writings of Democrats on ATS.

Also, I believe it was in the last election that the Democrats
said they gave up entirely on the white working class voters and
wanted the black and hispanic vote.
caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com...

So while the statement you are refuting is not
entirely true, there is an awful lot of truth in it.


You yourself would like to see every Christian
drummed out of the Democratic Party, at least
your writings sound that way on other threads.


You base your estimate of millions of Democrats, liberals and "the left" on what you think about ATS members???

LOL. You're a riot Granny.

It's not about me. If you want to talk about something I've said on the subject: quote me.

Short of that, you're just spinning your usual yarns.



posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: Semicollegiate
a reply to: links234

Like Noam Chomsky said about the human hard wiring for language, there is a human hard wiring for religion.

Substitute the State for God and you have Socialism, from the same part of the brain.



I would argue that you are absolutely correct. Although by definition Christianity and Socialism are different being that one is a religious ideology and the other is a political ideology, in practical application they fill they same void.







 
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