A Trump-Carson ticket?

originally posted by: Metallicus
I still believe Dr. Carson will beat out Trump for the Republican nomination. I would like to hope so anyway. I think someone that will get strong consideration for VP regardless of who wins the nomination will be Mitt Romney. I think Romney is already popular among many Republican voters.

No way. Mitt is a proven loser many times now and most voters are sick of him. I doubt he'd accept the nomination if it was offered.

a reply to: Answer

Trump is a good second choice if you ignore all the endless BS about him.

But I dont want to ignore the BS about him, I think people NEED to listen and watch and research on their own just what his policies are, what his past is, how he conducts himself.........those things are all very important and should NOT by any circumstances be ignored........

I dont think hes a good second choice at all, and I think we have a pretty good amount of time before we start getting to nominee status...

I think youre going to see Trump fall, and Carson, Paul, and Cruz rise, I predict Fiorina doing the same

a reply to: nwtrucker

I've always been a big Carson Fan, however i don't think a Trump/Carson or Carson/Trump ticket would be the way to go. They are both outsiders which is great, either one on top of the ticket is ideal, but they'll both need a VP that has some experience. Someone mentioned Mitt Romney, not sure he's the right choice, but it's in the right direction.

They both are going to need a VP that will know how the political system works and how to navigate it from the inside.

a reply to: angeldoll

Considering that the Democrats have lost around 1400 seats nation-wide at all levels of Gov't in total in the last two elections, your post seems to be hubris.

Not only CAN the Republicans win the presidency, the only way they can lose it is through shooting themselves in the foot.(Which is 50-50 at this point.)

An avowed socialist and a confirmed crook are your options...people in glass houses.....

a reply to: PsychoEmperor

Id like to see a Carson/Paul or Paul/Carson ticket

Or even Carson/Cruz etc

Both Paul and Cruz know how things work in Washington , and like all their policies or not, they have proven they will stand and deliver when they say they will

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I think the progressives would refute that, but I see where you are coming from.

This part not aimed at you Man, but if anyone thinks trump wants anything but a yes man as a VP I think they are sadly mistaken.

I do think the premise of Trump/Carson would be competitive, based on how they are polling, but don't think it would ever happen.

Hes not a progressive I suppose as far left as people like Sanders or Hillary sure, I undesrtand where youre coming from that

But compared to the more conservative people like Cruz, Paul, and Carson, hes farther left......

Im not bashing progressives with that post, just pointing out that his policies learn farther that direction then the ones proposed as a match up here in the OP

Thanks for the reply

The majority of the country are in the middle leaning more left than right.

That is one reason why Trump and Carson are polling so well.

I'm an excellent example... I'm pro gun, pro choice, pro marriage equality, pro marijuana legalization, against bigger government, against Obamacare (but believe a solution for healthcare issues is possible), against the $15 minimum wage, against the idea of a bible-thumping POTUS, etc.

I like Cruz because of his adherence to the Constitution and his solid record of doing what he says he's going to do. I'm not a fan of his more religious leanings and his hard-right stance on abortion and gay marriage but he is right on many things.

I think Trump is a lot like me but he's leaning a bit further right during the campaign because he knows it'll win votes. Trump is probably more accurately a "Libertarian" but we all know that third parties can't win elections.

Im surprised no ones talked about at Trump/ Kasich ticket, didnt he come out already once and say he would be for that?

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Answer

Trump is a good second choice if you ignore all the endless BS about him.

But I dont want to ignore the BS about him, I think people NEED to listen and watch and research on their own just what his policies are, what his past is, how he conducts himself.........those things are all very important and should NOT by any circumstances be ignored........

I dont think hes a good second choice at all, and I think we have a pretty good amount of time before we start getting to nominee status...

I think youre going to see Trump fall, and Carson, Paul, and Cruz rise, I predict Fiorina doing the same

By "endless BS", I'm talking about the unsubstantiated claims about Trump. I've seen many.

You're dreaming if you think Paul will be in this thing much longer. Same with Fiorina. They'll both drop out by Thanksgiving.

a reply to: Answer

Really?
He supports some fashion of universal health care
He is pro-choice
He's historically given over a half a million dollars to Democrat campaigns
He supports the "assault weapons" ban and wants a longer waiting period
His tax plan actually puts even more Americans on the dole
He calls for import tariffs... but his own product lines are made in Mexico and China, hypocrite much?
Trump is an east coast Republican, or what we in the west call a "Democrat." The guy has zero business running as a Conservative... but damn he sure fits the mold of most of the current GOP to a tee.

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Answer

Trump is a good second choice if you ignore all the endless BS about him.

But I dont want to ignore the BS about him, I think people NEED to listen and watch and research on their own just what his policies are, what his past is, how he conducts himself.........those things are all very important and should NOT by any circumstances be ignored........

I dont think hes a good second choice at all, and I think we have a pretty good amount of time before we start getting to nominee status...

I think youre going to see Trump fall, and Carson, Paul, and Cruz rise, I predict Fiorina doing the same

By "endless BS", I'm talking about the unsubstantiated claims about Trump. I've seen many.

You're dreaming if you think Paul will be in this thing much longer. Same with Fiorina. They'll both drop out by Thanksgiving.

Ill make a friendly wager on that, I dont think Paul is going anywhere, Dont think Fiorina is either

Especially as the field starts getting more narrow and other people like Rubio, possibly Kasich and Christie drop out, youre going to see Pauls, and Fiorinas numbers rise

Just my prediction

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Answer

Really?
He supports some fashion of universal health care
He is pro-choice
He's historically given over a half a million dollars to Democrat campaigns
He supports the "assault weapons" ban and wants a longer waiting period
His tax plan actually puts even more Americans on the dole
He calls for import tariffs... but his own product lines are made in Mexico and China, hypocrite much?
Trump is an east coast Republican, or what we in the west call a "Democrat." The guy has zero business running as a Conservative... but damn he sure fits the mold of most of the current GOP to a tee.

Pretty accurate assessment, Dont forget hes PRO imminent domain, not a very conservative ideal, and hes said many times he loves it......

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

The problem I see is the Constitutionalist is restricted by it's very conventions. The Judicial would block any moves to return to a Founding Father's version. (Not to mention there's near equal guilt on the right in violating it)

In that vein, we probably need an Obama-like president from the right to restore some sense of balance before the Constitution could be workable again. (I'm thinking a bit out of the box on that one...LOL)

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

The problem I see is the Constitutionalist is restricted by it's very conventions. The Judicial would block any moves to return to a Founding Father's version. (Not to mention there's near equal guilt on the right in violating it)

In that vein, we probably need an Obama-like president from the right to restore some sense of balance before the Constitution could be workable again. (I'm thinking a bit out of the box on that one...LOL)

LoL well , I like thinking out side of the box, however I cant say I agree, I dont think the answer is a "progressive lite" president

From a conservative standpoint, we have been traveling that road for many years now and its just gotten worse and worse..

No in my mind we need to turn course.......

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

Really?

Yes really, and I'm glad you responded the way you did so I can debunk what you've been duped into believing by the GOP establishment. Please research everything I say here so you can get a clearer picture.

He supports some fashion of universal health care

He supports competition within the insurance markets. He has said "I think we can find a way to take care of our people" in the past and some folks twisted that around to mean "single payer system." Trump has said multiple times that we can figure something out, that's it.

He is pro-choice

He has said that abortion is terrible but he supports the choice in cases of rape and incest. That's a logical standpoint.

He's historically given over a half a million dollars to Democrat campaigns

That accounts for about 52% of the money he has given to political campaigns. The rest was to Republicans. It so happens that the majority of Trump's businesses are in Democrat-run cities so, by comparison, the number is surprisingly low. As he has said, money buys favors and Trump would have had a very hard time being successful in those cities without greasing some palms.

He supports the "assault weapons" ban and wants a longer waiting period

No, he doesn't. In 2000, he wrote in a book that he supported the existing ban (just like most Republicans at the time) and, also in 2000 when he apparently didn't know about the instant background check system, he advocated a period long enough for the check to come back clean.

He published a lengthy paper on his website with a stronger 2nd Amendment stance than I've ever seen from a politician. He has used similar wording in several interviews. The way he speaks, he is very well-versed on the gun issue and has a full understanding. His sons are pro-gun so I suspect he may have gotten a lot of good information from them. The "Trump is anti gun" crap is coming from a single sentence written in a book 15 years ago and people are ignoring everything he has said since then.

His tax plan actually puts even more Americans on the dole

And? Why is that a bad thing? Do you think there's going to be a magical scenario where nobody has to pay taxes?

He calls for import tariffs... but his own product lines are made in Mexico and China, hypocrite much?

He also says the government is corrupt because of all the bribes but he admits to bribing politicians. It's entirely possible to utilize the current broken system while criticizing it. Trump knows what it takes to be successful in business and "his own product lines" can only be successful if the manufacturing costs are low. By placing tariffs on those imports, it levels the cost of manufacturing and the market adjusts, thereby making it more competitive to manufacture goods domestically. I'd say that a man who has actually "been there; done that" in the market knows far more about how to fix it than a politician whose viewpoint is influenced by whoever is giving him money that day.

Trump is an east coast Republican, or what we in the west call a "Democrat." The guy has zero business running as a Conservative... but damn he sure fits the mold of most of the current GOP to a tee.

Ok. When is the last time a hardcore 100% conservative had a chance at being elected President? Even the Republican Jesus, Ronald Reagan, was more of a middle-of-the-road Conservative.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Yet, he'd shut down the Dept of Education. Shut down Mosques. He'd also slam the door on illegals...

Just saying.

Those aren't 'Progressive' policies are they??

Off the top, politically, he's starting from behind. What I see is he's promoting to the whole nation rather than just for the Republican nomination.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, traditionally, candidates for the Presidential Nomination from their party tend to pander to the party members themselves and after winning the nomination, then rapidly move to the 'middle' position to win broader support from the middle.

I recall the Mondale-Reagan debates where they seemed to take the position of the opposite side!!

Trump seems to have shattered the envelope. He uses the social media....which by-passes the traditional/controlled media to gain exposure. He seems now to be promoting to both sides AT THE SAME TIME which doesn't usually happen until the nomination has been secured.

I'm not saying he has my unreserved support, at all. He is one smart SOB though and doesn't follow in lock-step with the 'political experts'.

Maybe....just maybe he'd make a good president...if he's smart enough to listen to others before deciding the course to take......maybe

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

The problem I see is the Constitutionalist is restricted by it's very conventions. The Judicial would block any moves to return to a Founding Father's version. (Not to mention there's near equal guilt on the right in violating it)

In that vein, we probably need an Obama-like president from the right to restore some sense of balance before the Constitution could be workable again. (I'm thinking a bit out of the box on that one...LOL)

LoL well , I like thinking out side of the box, however I cant say I agree, I dont think the answer is a "progressive lite" president

From a conservative standpoint, we have been traveling that road for many years now and its just gotten worse and worse..

No in my mind we need to turn course.......

The majority of the country would disagree with you, I'm afraid.

originally posted by: nwtrucker

Maybe....just maybe he'd make a good president...if he's smart enough to listen to others before deciding the course to take......maybe

He has already said that he doesn't know all the answers but he'd surround himself with people who do. I prefer that over a POTUS that has a "my way or the highway" attitude like Hillary.

Trump will never be second banana, so a call for a Carson/Trump Ticket will be fruitless.

I'm not sure that Carson would be okay being a second to Trump either. I just don't see it happening.

Don't discount Sanders though, he's growing. Moderates, in my opinion and I could be wrong, are getting a little bit fed up with Republicans, especially with how stupid Clinton made them look in the hearing yesterday.

Don't mistake me, I dislike Hillary Clinton, but she made the Republicans look foolish in the hearing yesterday.

originally posted by: amazing
Trump will never be second banana, so a call for a Carson/Trump Ticket will be fruitless.

I'm not sure that Carson would be okay being a second to Trump either. I just don't see it happening.

Don't discount Sanders though, he's growing. Moderates, in my opinion and I could be wrong, are getting a little bit fed up with Republicans, especially with how stupid Clinton made them look in the hearing yesterday.

Don't mistake me, I dislike Hillary Clinton, but she made the Republicans look foolish in the hearing yesterday.

That's right! And as Carson begins to lead in the polls; watch for Trump to say **** it and bail out. His ego is so large and fragile, he will not tolerate being a loser.

Carson will not get the GOP nomination...

Whos next.....the Jebster....that's who.

And the fact of the matter is...there just aren't enough "real" conservatives to pose any kind of threat to the very well established RNC neocon machine.

A third party bid would be fun to watch but that would doom the Republicans for generations to come. Rock>Hardplace....

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: amazing
Trump will never be second banana, so a call for a Carson/Trump Ticket will be fruitless.

I'm not sure that Carson would be okay being a second to Trump either. I just don't see it happening.

Don't discount Sanders though, he's growing. Moderates, in my opinion and I could be wrong, are getting a little bit fed up with Republicans, especially with how stupid Clinton made them look in the hearing yesterday.

Don't mistake me, I dislike Hillary Clinton, but she made the Republicans look foolish in the hearing yesterday.

That's right! And as Carson begins to lead in the polls; watch for Trump to say **** it and bail out. His ego is so large and fragile, he will not tolerate being a loser.

Carson will not get the GOP nomination...

Whos next.....the Jebster....that's who.

And the fact of the matter is...there just aren't enough "real" conservatives to pose any kind of threat to the very well established RNC neocon machine.

A third party bid would be fun to watch but that would doom the Republicans for generations to come. Rock>Hardplace....

I don't know. Trumps hitting hard with 9/11 and it's making Jeb uncomfortable. I'm seeing kinks int he armor and Rand Paul's even jumped in on it a little bit. We can hope that trump annihilates him! Not that I'm a big trump fan but I hate Bush.