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Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy

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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: Semicollegiate

The folks getting old today were not victims of the childhood obesity epidemic.
So, you just made this up then. Nothing to support it.

The official USDA food pyramid kills most people about retirement time.

 




Mr Phage, are there any conspiracies that you have deemed to be possible?
Am I the topic now?



This is a conspiracy site after all.
Huh. According to the motto, it's about something else.


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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 12:52 AM
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Great video that supports the artificial drought in California:




posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 12:54 AM
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a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

Nothing Wigington says is great.
He waves his arms really good but provides no evidence for his claims.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 01:00 AM
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It is possible that TPTB could influence the weather. It would involve mass action of temperature changes or pressure changes and depend on a positive feedback mechanism. Maybe a rocket made entirely from solid rocket fuel or ionospheric asymmetric vibration or something. I have no idea what is possible, given enough money.

It is more likely that they have a better prediction mechanism than the average voter and use foreseen extreme conditions however they can.

A water crisis could enable more regulation of personal water usage and set the precedent for more control and surveillance in general.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 01:05 AM
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a reply to: Phage

If you were denying ignorance you would look up the obesity epidemic yourself, instead of playing contrarian.

The conspiracy attitude is certainly implied, if not stated overtly.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 01:07 AM
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If you were denying ignorance you would look up the obesity epidemic yourself, instead of playing contrarian.

I know that there are a lot of fat people. How does that square with this claim?

The official USDA food pyramid kills most people about retirement time.

 



The conspiracy attitude is certainly implied, if not stated overtly.
If the conspiracy is to shorten lifespans, it doesn't seem to be working. Does it?

If the conspiracy is to control the weather, how does that work? Apart from Wigington's arm waving, that is.






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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 01:08 AM
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Everyone needs to watch the film from 2008 called World Water Wars.

I think its actively yanked on youtube, may be viewable on disclose.tv

Its attainable on some vids sites though.

Basically water is soon to be used as a weapon to control humanity,
much in the same manner as "bread and circuses", corrupt media,
corrupt religion, and corrupt everything else...

The world that is presented to us via the "operation mockingbird"
media is just a series of various psyops.

Most of the world that they media portrays is built on numerous lies,
and it is starting to unravel...



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 01:12 AM
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originally posted by: UnifiedSerenity

originally posted by: Starling
I'm very disappointed in the fact that almost all of you on ATS have lost the plot as to what the OP is about.

"California's Drought is a Government Conspiracy".

And this is ATS...Deny Ignorance?


I agree with what you said, but sadly, there are many on ATS who gain much more enjoyment by sounding intellectual rather than actually engaging in a thoughtful dialogue. I saw a video a few months back that showed some very strange "sheering" of weather fronts that should have brought in rain off the Pacific ocean that just disappeared before hitting the coast, and it did look at if some force (weather modification) were used to dry up the front.

Those who ask about "why would they dry up California"? Well, one could believe that since California is part of the "bread basket" that if you do destroy the crops, then panic might be created, prices would sky rocket and people would have to choose between bullets and bread.

I know for a fact that geo-engineering has been patented, and the levels of heavy metals being sprayed on us have destroyed so much land and trees that it will take ages to rehabilitate the areas affected. The autoimmune epidemic is rising, and a weak nation is a compliant nation. So, there are lots of reasons to distrust the government on this topic.

Here's proof of the spraying going on:




***I'm bumping this.
Thank you for emphasizing the importance of this, helping to bring light to an issue of great concern.
This is not a joke, nor a whimsey, and should be taken very seriously.

This concerns the very air we breathe, the photosynthesis of plants, the combustibility of dried out trees due to their intake of (sprayed) metal particulates (aluminium), the disorientation of bees, over-acicity of soil, over-alkilinity of seawater and....well just about everything else that's going wrong in our biosphere, right now.

Act now, people.
The atmosphere is all we've got.
You wanna let some psychopaths kill our planet under the guise of 'scientific research'?
This is no research...This is an illegal and amoral OPERATION!



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 01:20 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Semicollegiate



If you were denying ignorance you would look up the obesity epidemic yourself, instead of playing contrarian.

I know that there are a lot of fat people. How does that square with this claim?

The official USDA food pyramid kills most people about retirement time.

 



The conspiracy attitude is certainly implied, if not stated overtly.
If the conspiracy is to shorten lifespans, it doesn't seem to be working. Does it?

If the conspiracy is to control the weather, how does that work? Apart from Wigington's arm waving, that is.







Retirement age is older too. The idea being no retirement should be sought in the socialistic paradise.



business.time.com...

The food pyramid assumes that every one is exactly alike, one size fits all.

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I think the grain of truth is not control of the weather, per se, but the exploitation of the crisis that planner knew would come and regular folks didn't think about. It feels like a conspiracy, even though it could be nothing but bureaucratic inertia. The ratchet effect of more laws every election.

Controlling the weather would need a lot of energy spread thinly over a humungous volume.
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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 01:23 AM
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originally posted by: UnifiedSerenity
Great video that supports the artificial drought in California:





Again, bump!
Thank you for stressing the importance of this.
It needs to be further researched, observed, documented and discussed.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 01:24 AM
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It feels like a conspiracy, even though it could be nothing but bureaucratic inertia.

It feels like too much water being used by too much agriculture and too many people living in a place which has recently undergone a severe drought.

Not the first time nature has said, "enough."
www.history.com...



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 01:39 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Semicollegiate



It feels like a conspiracy, even though it could be nothing but bureaucratic inertia.

It feels like too much water being used by too much agriculture and too many people living in a place which has recently undergone a severe drought.

Not the first time nature has said, "enough."
www.history.com...



In a free country, reason says "obey nature to control nature".

"enough" is kind of schizophrenic, in that it has nature saying something directly in English.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 01:42 AM
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Re: your edit

Retirement age is older too. The idea being no retirement should be sought in the socialistic paradise.
I thought that in a socialistic paradise there is no need to work (from each...to each...). Oh, you left out this part of the article:

This is probably because more workers in their 50s are on the job out of need and still have considerable family and other outside obligations. For the most part, workers 70-plus have all the flexibility they need—it’s called the ability to quit if they’re not happy.

business.time.com...
 


The food pyramid assumes that every one is exactly alike, one size fits all.
No. It assumes some basic principles of health. But you still have not provided anything to support your claim about "most people dying about retirement time."

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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 01:42 AM
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It feels like too much water being used by too much agriculture and too many people living in a place which has recently undergone a severe drought.


Such a big problem and realistically framed in a single sentence.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 02:28 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Semicollegiate
Re: your edit

Retirement age is older too. The idea being no retirement should be sought in the socialistic paradise.
I thought that in a socialistic paradise there is no need to work (from each...to each...). Oh, you left out this part of the article:

This is probably because more workers in their 50s are on the job out of need and still have considerable family and other outside obligations. For the most part, workers 70-plus have all the flexibility they need—it’s called the ability to quit if they’re not happy.

business.time.com...


In the socialistic paradise there is no benefit for work, you only get what you need, if you get it at all. See Holodomor.

I was surprised to see Time stating a truth. I see they made up for that at the end.


More Elderly Find They Can't Afford Not to Work

By
Kelly Greene And

Anne Tergesen

January 21, 2012
Rose Marie Meece planned to retire from her job as a tour leader in Honolulu three years ago. The 78-year-old woman decided to stay after losing about half of the $300,000 in her retirement account during the downturn.

www.wsj.com...


Time's position might be true right now, but the trend is for more folks working as long as they live, because they have too.

I suppose your economists didn't see the housing bubble coming.

Don't worry all is well.


No. It assumes some basic principles of health. But you still have not provided anything to support your claim about "most people dying about retirement time."


Perhaps you would prefer -- the least retirement years possible.

Do you think that the average person needs to eat 6 to 11 servings of carbohydrates per day?
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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 02:36 AM
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Do you think that the average person needs to eat 6 to 11 servings of carbohydrates per day?

That would depend on a number of factors. But you know that those guidelines from 1992 have been modified a few times, right?

What this has to do with weather control, I have no idea.



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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 04:46 AM
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Okay so now Dane Wiggington is all about the truth?

Might I ask when did this start, as he is a well known huckster that enjoys living off of gullible people's money.

Now before you believe this man you may want to do some research into his claims...but here are a few videos debunking him and his site geoengineeringwatch.org.





And let us not forget the fake snow debacle that Dane Wigington jumped on a while back as proof of some government conspiracy...



And yet it was debunked right here on ATS.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And a few others on the subject are there just look for yourselves. Now you can believe this man, but his history shows he jumps on the latest conspiracy theory and uses it to his financial advantage.

He is far from actually knowing the truth and that has been proven more times than most people change their underwear.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 04:49 AM
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Great video that supports the artificial drought in California:


Coming from a known liar...you should research the man before thinking he is telling the truth.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 04:51 AM
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Aint California the 3rd largest state after Alaska and Texas? Thus the population and water demands BIG.

Whatever trails these planes are CONSTANTLY zigzaging all over painting up the southern california skies every day (including earlier today/yesterday) is NOT helping.

Probably intentionally hurting. WHY in the world are they doing this to the #1 agriculture source in the nation, I dont know.

Except lately I see alot of people are juicing and actually eating healthy, in part to counteract the SMOG, the RADIATION, the power lines, etc etc and my theory is:

the government doesn't want NUTRITIOUS VEGGIES to be so readily cheap & available!

They don't mind the bread basket of America cuz thats mostly empty calories but they DO mind all the lycopein carotenoids phytosterols etc that California is pumping out and shipping across the nation.

Thus I call it the Great Nutrient Stakeout!

TBTB will increasingly push empty calories upon its growing US population (meanwhile the elite enjoy the cream of the crop nutrient-laden foods whose prices get jacked up by less supply, more demand)




posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 05:24 AM
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a reply to: Milah

So exactly what ionospheric heater is being used to do this?

Remember HAARP is no longer used by the government and is now under control of the University of Alaska...or is that just a front for the government and it doesn't actually exist?

I really believe you need to go back to the drawing board and find a better conspiracy theory for this as this one falls short.



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