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Aliens are a myth, so that the Government keeps you from knowing about this.

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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:16 AM
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a reply to: imjack


Magnetic Levitating Bed, would not be comfortable if it was freezing.
Right, because it is the object which is being "levitated" which must be superconducting.



That said, it's only a limit of how cold you can go.
Not really. Superconductivity is superconductivity. Once you're there, you're there. You can't really have more "no electrical resistance."

The "limit" you seem to be talking about is the strength of the magnetic field in which the superconductor is suspended. The Earth's is not very strong. Else those toys would not need the magnetic tracks.


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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:19 AM
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a reply to: Phage

You're missing the point. There is literally a bed, that does not use a super conductor, that literally floats with magnets using Magnetic Levitation. It's not hypothetical, they are two real different things. One WITH super conductors, and one without.

hight3ch.com...


In the case of the UFO, the UFO is the Superconductor, to the Earths magnetic field.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:21 AM
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a reply to: imjack

You're missing the point.
No. I'm not.
The "bed" consists of magnets which create a magnetic field in which the superconductor is suspended. Magnets which are many times stronger than Earth's magnetic field.



In the case of the UFO, the UFO is the Superconductor, to the Earths magnetic field.
The Earth's magnetic field which is very weak. Magnitudes weaker than a refrigerator magnet. If that were not the case, the "bed" of magnets would not be required, the superconductor would just start floating.

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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:25 AM
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a reply to: Phage

No, they wouldn't be Toys, if their Mass wasn't already hard enough to superchill. Forget the track, you need different coolant.

A UFO that could 'with alien technology' reach absolute 0, would 'lock' with any magnetic field of any size with the right temp.

You're blowing my mind still saying that bed, I JUST LINKED YOU TO has a superconductor. It's two COMPLETELY PLAIN magnets, tethered to simply 'oppose' each other. No-Super-Conductor



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:25 AM
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a reply to: imjack

AGAIN please read my first post. The earths field is not strong enough to activate a superconductor.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:26 AM
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A UFO that could 'with alien technology' reach absolute 0, would 'lock' with any magnetic field of any size with the right temp.
But if that field is not stronger than the force of gravity, guess what?





You're blowing my mind still saying that bed, I JUST LINKED YOU TO has a superconductor. It's two COMPLETELY PLAIN magnets, tethered to simply 'oppose' each other. No-Super-Conductor

You're the one who started talking about a "bed". But would you like to rephrase that last bit?

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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:31 AM
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a reply to: JadeStar

Yeah because it's a freaking demonstration.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:33 AM
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Mods please stop deleting my threads I only care about the truth and the future of our species, Stop sending me Pictures of JFK.


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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:39 AM
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The bed is Magnetic Levitation.

"The same thing as"

Well, you said it many times.

That would be what Jade called it also.


Respectively you don't think absolute 0 achieves this is what you're saying? If the Earth was a track? And a plain magnet, with a cheap tether, can already 'float'?



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:41 AM
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"The same thing as"
Yes. Magnetic levitation. Suspension due to a balance of magnetic fields with gravity.


Respectively you don't think absolute 0 achieves this is what you're saying?
Absolute zero is not required to obtain superconductivity.



If the Earth was a track? And a plain magnet, with a cheap tether, can already 'float'?
No. And neither can a superconductor because the Earth's magnetic field is not strong enough.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:46 AM
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a reply to: Phage

And the Sun's magnetic field that is 2x as strong and 12,000 times as large, and extends to Pluto?

Or did you think it's not possible?



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:49 AM
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a reply to: Phage

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So this is not possible because the Earth is not in space is your Arguement?



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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:00 AM
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Idk. I only tried to say 1,000 times, the cold is respective to the field, and it doesn't matter how cold, or how non-magnet it was. As long as it was a magnet.

Yes, the key would be balance.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:01 AM
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What are you all talking about?!

Phage said it like it is:

IF you want to "levitate" an object via magnetic fields, those fields have to be strong enough to counter the gravitational forces.

The earths magnetic field does not have a strong enough magnetic field strength, the B-value isn't high enough.
So, if you want to levitate, you have to have strong magnets inside the TRACK.

Example: Lexus' "flying" skateboard. Google that.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:03 AM
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And the Sun's magnetic field that is 2x as strong and 12,000 times as large, and extends to Pluto?

2 times as strong as what? As weak as it is, the Earth's magnetic field vastly overpowers that of the Sun in the Earth's vicinity, just as a refrigerator magnet overpowers the Earth's magnetic field. Try holding a small magnet near a compass. Which is stronger, the Earth's field, or the magnet?

Yes, the solar wind carries the remnants of the Sun's magnetic field to the edge of the Solar System. It is still very, very weak. It's extent is irrelevant.


Or did you think it's not possible?
To free fly using magnetic levitation? No, it is not possible unless you are in a very, very strong magnetic field or very light in weight. Which we are not.

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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:03 AM
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The method to achieve this, is a superconductor, that is chilled to a temperature, to match the magnetic field of the magnet, for trapping to take effect.


I'm sorry to spoil your party...I'm completely out of the loop on most scientific stuff...but I've known about this for at least 10-years...so it's no secret. Everybody who wants to know...can look it up online.

so the entire premise of your thread is invalid.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:09 AM
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That's the strawman. Basically, if you are a HUGE sized object, verses a SMALL object you need to be a different temperature AND field. It's the argument that's been avoided the whole time.

The way I basically punch a hole in his argument is easy, a HUGE superconductor would flatten the track. Because it's huge.

Now, if with small magnets, in the video demonstration, with MAGNETS, that are, ON EARTH, you would assume, by the amount of mass they are lifting, with the aide of supercoolant, you could easily replicate this with large, ever colder, superconducting hyper-magnets.

It's about the balance between each field and the temperature itself. Being smaller can lift something bigger. Something Colder, can require less field.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:11 AM
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Something Colder, can require less field.


1) It is the field which levitates the object. If the field is not strong enough the object will not levitate. Otherwise, a piece of superconducting material would start floating with no need for any "bed."

2) Once superconductivity occurs, it does not matter how much colder the superconductor gets. Superconductivity is superconductivity. There is no such thing as "very superconductive." Superconductivity is the loss of electrical resistance (super conductive). The appearance of the Meissner effect shows when superconductivity is occurring.

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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:13 AM
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The premise of the thread is that Aliens Spacecraft have existed for at least 50 years, and that the conspiracy is that "Aliens Exist" because the Goverment want's to divoid attention from their new elite stealth fighter air/space craft.

So 10 years isn't really that up to date. It's not a secret, because it's a secret, it's a secret because the question is Aliens?

And the assumption they would ever be sighted in a UFO.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:17 AM
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originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

The premise of the thread is that Aliens Spacecraft have existed for at least 50 years, and that the conspiracy is that "Aliens Exist" because the Goverment want's to divoid attention from their new elite stealth fighter air/space craft.

So 10 years isn't really that up to date. It's not a secret, because it's a secret, it's a secret because the question is Aliens?

And the assumption they would ever be sighted in a UFO.


I have to admit...you're quite incoherent.

Let me ask you one thing...which church do you belong to ?



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