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originally posted by: muse7
I'm sorry but $15 bucks an hour for fast food workers IS outrageous.
The CEO might be overpaid but he probably went to university and busted his ass at school to at least deserve some of the money he's making.
If these people want to make $15 an hour then they should go to college and get a degree in something useful that's in demand or learn a trade that's in demand.
originally posted by: pexx421
Shorting me on a regular basis all so the manager can try to get a bonus. So yeah, I think our current sop is exploitative and abusive to the workers.
And no, I am not speaking for myself, I am in shipping/receiving, but I see first hand who the real movers and shakers are. I've offered this wager to the people who make the decisions where I work. Everyone who works on salary take a month off and see how the company runs, then let the hourly people take a month off and see how it goes. The results will surprise you
originally posted by: odd1out
After five or six failed attempts to find someone to "stick"
. We could not at that time afford to pay him more than minimum wage.
The problem I see with businesses today is the unwillingness to go much beyond minimum wage for loyal employees. A loyal employee is worth their weight in gold, and believe me when I say, my business COULD NOT grow without the employees I have doing their jobs well. They are like family to me and I treat them that way.
If I had to start an employee at $15 an hour (which is what my first employee makes) there wouldn't be much leeway for advances in pay.
$15 an hour may be a lot in some places, but it isn't a living wage here. Can I afford to pay the wage? If I needed help and I couldn't afford it, then I had better do the work myself.
Is it unethical for a business owner to take huge profits while not paying his employees a decent wage or never giving raises?
originally posted by: ugmold
71% is not even 3/4 of 100% This is long over due, thus the need for the catch up, haven't you noticed the economy? And if they went out and got some skills, who would serve yo your coffee? Your answer: a machine. You can already go to a vending machine. What, problem with that?
originally posted by: fleabit
Suggesting that skilled workers and unskilled workers are interchangeable is simply ridiculous.
originally posted by: six67seven
In my post above, Im looking at a $15 minimum wage while discussing these big businesses like a DD or McDonalds, with certain cities in mind. Im not in favor of or expect a small business owner to pay that wage. Financially, its simply not viable.
These problems arent simple, and when government is as nosey as ours, its even more difficult.
originally posted by: earthling42
I do not think that the discussion should be about people not having basic skills, it should be about the american taxpayers who are subsidizing businesses to make more profit while paying their employees a salary they cannot live on.
As i understand it the minimum wage has not kept up with inflation, see this as a correction.
originally posted by: Nothingbutnet
OUCH!!! If $15 an hour is all the starting pay a college degree is worth these days, then, be prepared when a BA degree is the minimum requirement for landing a job in the fast food industry!!! Double that OUCH!!!
This is not true. Australia has a high minimum wage for restaurant workers. The price they pay is ultimately that there are very few restaurants that open in that country in comparison to the USA. So, its not worth shutting down restaurants over in most cases, but it prevents new ones from opening. Its basically stupid way of taxing the middle class in a way that works towards a strange charity sort of program that rewards people for dedicating their lives to unskilled labor, so their skills will languish as there is no point in actually learning something useful.
originally posted by: khnum
Now if everyone was on minimum wages or part time work then no one could afford donuts and Mr CEO would be fired....look for this on a global scale soon the Wizard of Oz hasn't been concentrating on growth and consumer spending the Humpty Dumpty moment approaches when all this greed reaches critical morass.
originally posted by: scolai
The minimum wage is an idiotic concept -- and raising it is even more pointless.
First of all, if we raise the minimum wage from $7.25 to $15/per hour, after inflation, workers will be making the same relative amount and still won't make a "living wage". If you don't believe me, raise the minimum wage and tell me in three years how well off everyone is.