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originally posted by: KnightLight
a reply to: Domo1
Just pass the test slick. It's really not that hard. This reminds me of something that pissed me off when I was in the Army. Seeing people come in with 20 out of 100 percentile on their ASVAB, and just having waivers or whatever. One guy probablyhad an IQ of 70. I mean the guy had trouble tying his shoes. One can hope most of these people failed training, as they should, though I saw standards slipping, and tests fudged...
If you are going to have a test, and that test is supposed to mean you can do your job. Well, it's a test.. That's what it does.
I know plenty of girls who could be firefighters. I know two girls off the top of my head who can lift more weight on their back than me..
If they got it they got it. And I have no patience left at all for any more PC bull#. Weak girl can't pass a test, then weak girl goes home and no one dies.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: WarminIndy
I had to respect the height requirement.
Even Disneyland has height requirements!
originally posted by: LoverBoy
a reply to: BobaFettish
So you start by saying who are you to judge, yet I can tell you are not a firefighter or EMS person. 30 seconds doesn't matter? Bull...Anyone in the emergency field will tell you 30 seconds is alot of time that can determine the outcome of an event.
Then you say she failed one part. This may be the case, but she still failed. These are minimum requirements for anyone to ensure they can safely and effectively perform their everyday duties on the job. If she cannot complete these requirements which are minimum requirements, then she needs to find another career.
We have many volunteer fire brigades here also. As you said, many are out of shape etc. Their is also a noticeable difference between the effectiveness of our volunteer brigades and our paid departments. Is it better than nothing? Absolutely.
I have asthma and Lupus. Lupus causes alot of pain and fatigue 24/7. However I built my lungs up by running and keeping running daily. If you cant hack it, find another career.
originally posted by: Baltazar84
a reply to: Klassified
I think you answered your own question. If that male firefighter collapsed and had to be dragged out (knowing he passed the physical test in the first place to even become a firefighter) then obviously the high standards of physical ability are needed. If he passed and still collapsed then someone who didn't pass the test in the first place would be way more likely to collapse in the same circumstances.
I'm all for equality. As long as it's equal across the board no matter race, gender or age
originally posted by: WarminIndy
They have had plenty of time to learn what works the best and then continually train for it.
Sorry, but the fire authorities let this woman through and they are the ones who have the experience and knowledge to determine weather a person is eligible or not.. Not you and not the media..!!
originally posted by: LoverBoy
a reply to: Thecakeisalie
Structure fires, medical calls, swift water rescue, wilderness rescue, high angle rescue....just to name a few. Dragging a dummy weighing 200-400 lbs is typically part of your agility test, since you brought up dragging people out of burning buildings. This is completely different then climbing a 12 story tower with turnout gear and and airpack on while dragging hose. Minimum specs are set to rule out people who wouldnt be able to do day to day operations.
originally posted by: matafuchs
Also, how does someone get a 20 on the ASVAB...