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Second Fake Dutch Moon Rock Given To The Queen Of The Netherlands By Apollo 11 Crew!

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posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 12:34 PM
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Here is the story of a museum in Holland who recieved the moonstone from queen juliana which she recieved in the early´70´s.


Hoe de maansteen in ons museum kwam
Tijdens zes bemande maanvluchten van het Apollo-programma werd in totaal 382 kilo maanpuin verplaatst van de maan naar de aarde. De Amerikaanse president Richard Nixon schonk de monsters begin jaren zeventig aan koningin Juliana. Zij schonk ze vervolgens aan het museum. Het gaat om een stuk maangruis afkomstig van de Mare Tranquillitatis (Zee der Rust, de vlakte waar de Apollo landde) dat werd meegenomen door de bemanning van de Apollo 11-missie en maangruis uit de maankrater Littrow in het Taurusgebergte dat werd meegebracht met de laatste missie van het Apollo-project, Apollo 17.


Translated with google ±


The Moonstone in our museum came
During six manned moon flights of the Apollo program was moved a total of 382 kilograms of lunar debris from the moon to Earth. The US president Richard Nixon gave the samples in the early seventies to Queen Juliana. She then donated them to the museum. It is a piece of lunar dust from the Mare Tranquillitatis ( Sea of ​​Tranquility , the plain where the Apollo landed ) which was taken by the crew of the Apollo 11 mission and lunar dust from the lunar crater Littrow in the Taurus Mountains , which was brought to the last mission of the Apollo project , Apollo 17 .


Museum Boerhaave


edit on 30-4-2015 by webstra because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: eriktheawful
a reply to: TheWhisper

I could type random letters and numbers in the thread title and ATS will accept it.....until a moderator changes it after someone complains about it.

Again: your thread is not about the rock that the prime minister had. It's about the Apollo 11 astronauts giving the queen a moon rock. At least that is what your OP states.

If you had wanted to discuss the prime minister, you should have included that in the OP, however, again, there are already threads on that subject.

If you desire to prove that the news article is correct (and all the others found by the ATS members who have posted in this thread so far are wrong), then you need to find more than the one news article (which another member on Page 3 had to provide the source for).

This is why your thread is in Skunk Works: it's highly speculative and does not really have supporting sources for it.


Thanks you for explaining some rule to a new member it is appreciated. Now it is time to talk about the fake moon rock given to the Dutch Queen by the Apollo astronauts again as the article that is not debunked tells.

TW salutes all real truth seekers here on ATS.



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 12:43 PM
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a reply to: webstra

Thank you! The relevant point is that Queen Juliana (in keeping with protocol) received the Moonstone in the 1970s, not 1969 as TW keeps erroneously claiming.



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: webstra
Here is the story of a museum in Holland who recieved the moonstone from queen juliana which she recieved in the early´70´s.


Hoe de maansteen in ons museum kwam
Tijdens zes bemande maanvluchten van het Apollo-programma werd in totaal 382 kilo maanpuin verplaatst van de maan naar de aarde. De Amerikaanse president Richard Nixon schonk de monsters begin jaren zeventig aan koningin Juliana. Zij schonk ze vervolgens aan het museum. Het gaat om een stuk maangruis afkomstig van de Mare Tranquillitatis (Zee der Rust, de vlakte waar de Apollo landde) dat werd meegenomen door de bemanning van de Apollo 11-missie en maangruis uit de maankrater Littrow in het Taurusgebergte dat werd meegebracht met de laatste missie van het Apollo-project, Apollo 17.


Translated with google ±


The Moonstone in our museum came
During six manned moon flights of the Apollo program was moved a total of 382 kilograms of lunar debris from the moon to Earth. The US president Richard Nixon gave the samples in the early seventies to Queen Juliana. She then donated them to the museum. It is a piece of lunar dust from the Mare Tranquillitatis ( Sea of ​​Tranquility , the plain where the Apollo landed ) which was taken by the crew of the Apollo 11 mission and lunar dust from the lunar crater Littrow in the Taurus Mountains , which was brought to the last mission of the Apollo project , Apollo 17 .


Museum Boerhaave


That is correct the queen did receive moon rock from Nixon, the Queen did give these Apollo 11 moon rocks to the museum. But this is not the moon rock given to the Queen by the Apollo 11 crew as the article from 9 October 1969 reports.



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: webstra
Here is the story of a museum in Holland who recieved the moonstone from queen juliana which she recieved in the early´70´s.


Hoe de maansteen in ons museum kwam
Tijdens zes bemande maanvluchten van het Apollo-programma werd in totaal 382 kilo maanpuin verplaatst van de maan naar de aarde. De Amerikaanse president Richard Nixon schonk de monsters begin jaren zeventig aan koningin Juliana. Zij schonk ze vervolgens aan het museum. Het gaat om een stuk maangruis afkomstig van de Mare Tranquillitatis (Zee der Rust, de vlakte waar de Apollo landde) dat werd meegenomen door de bemanning van de Apollo 11-missie en maangruis uit de maankrater Littrow in het Taurusgebergte dat werd meegebracht met de laatste missie van het Apollo-project, Apollo 17.


Translated with google ±


The Moonstone in our museum came
During six manned moon flights of the Apollo program was moved a total of 382 kilograms of lunar debris from the moon to Earth. The US president Richard Nixon gave the samples in the early seventies to Queen Juliana. She then donated them to the museum. It is a piece of lunar dust from the Mare Tranquillitatis ( Sea of ​​Tranquility , the plain where the Apollo landed ) which was taken by the crew of the Apollo 11 mission and lunar dust from the lunar crater Littrow in the Taurus Mountains , which was brought to the last mission of the Apollo project , Apollo 17 .


Museum Boerhaave


That is correct the queen did receive moon rock from Nixon, the Queen did give these Apollo 11 moon rocks to the museum. But this is not the moon rock given to the Queen by the Apollo 11 crew as the article from 9 October 1969 reports.


You have yet to prove that the one source you have provided for your claim is accurate. It is also now painfully clear that you are lying about having corroborating sources. This thread really does belong in [HOAX!] if only because of your dodgy behavior.



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: webstra
Here is the story of a museum in Holland who recieved the moonstone from queen juliana which she recieved in the early´70´s.


Hoe de maansteen in ons museum kwam
Tijdens zes bemande maanvluchten van het Apollo-programma werd in totaal 382 kilo maanpuin verplaatst van de maan naar de aarde. De Amerikaanse president Richard Nixon schonk de monsters begin jaren zeventig aan koningin Juliana. Zij schonk ze vervolgens aan het museum. Het gaat om een stuk maangruis afkomstig van de Mare Tranquillitatis (Zee der Rust, de vlakte waar de Apollo landde) dat werd meegenomen door de bemanning van de Apollo 11-missie en maangruis uit de maankrater Littrow in het Taurusgebergte dat werd meegebracht met de laatste missie van het Apollo-project, Apollo 17.


Translated with google ±


The Moonstone in our museum came
During six manned moon flights of the Apollo program was moved a total of 382 kilograms of lunar debris from the moon to Earth. The US president Richard Nixon gave the samples in the early seventies to Queen Juliana. She then donated them to the museum. It is a piece of lunar dust from the Mare Tranquillitatis ( Sea of ​​Tranquility , the plain where the Apollo landed ) which was taken by the crew of the Apollo 11 mission and lunar dust from the lunar crater Littrow in the Taurus Mountains , which was brought to the last mission of the Apollo project , Apollo 17 .


Museum Boerhaave


That is correct the queen did receive moon rock from Nixon, the Queen did give these Apollo 11 moon rocks to the museum. But this is not the moon rock given to the Queen by the Apollo 11 crew as the article from 9 October 1969 reports.


You have yet to prove that the one source you have provided for your claim is accurate. It is also now painfully clear that you are lying about having corroborating sources. This thread really does belong in [HOAX!] if only because of your dodgy behavior.



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 12:57 PM
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She recieved it twice, one of apollo11 and one of apollo 17, as the museum site tells.



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: webstra

Here is the source article that states that the Queen got a moon rock from the Apollo astronauts it is in Dutch.

www.delpher.nl... ier=ddd%3A011015121%3Ampeg21%3Aa0009
edit on 30-4-2015 by TheWhisper because: link correction



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: TheWhisper
a reply to: webstra

Here is the source article that states that the Queen got a moon rock from the Apollo astronauts it is in Dutch.

www.delpher.nl...:011015121:mpeg21:a0009&resultsidentifier=dd d:011015121:mpeg21:a0009


Dutch is not a problem, i'm dutch. Even the newspaper 'Nieuwsblad van het Noorden' is the newspaper a red in those day's ;-)



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 01:05 PM
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And still, you have yet to provide an explanation, or even your own opinion, of why the Queen of the Netherlands got a moon rock from the Apollo 11 crew, but nobody else in the world did.



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: webstra
She recieved it twice, one of apollo11 and one of apollo 17, as the museum site tells.

Yep that is the story but this thread is about the moon rock given to the Dutch Queen in 1969 by the Apollo 11 astronauts.
www.delpher.nl... ier=ddd%3A011015121%3Ampeg21%3Aa0009



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: KissaCat
And still, you have yet to provide an explanation, or even your own opinion, of why the Queen of the Netherlands got a moon rock from the Apollo 11 crew, but nobody else in the world did.

Are you proposing that the Astronauts should had given away fake moon rocks to every head of state they visited? That would had been not a good idea.



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: webstra

originally posted by: TheWhisper
a reply to: webstra

Here is the source article that states that the Queen got a moon rock from the Apollo astronauts it is in Dutch.

www.delpher.nl...:011015121:mpeg21:a0009&resultsidentifier=dd d:011015121:mpeg21:a0009


Dutch is not a problem, i'm dutch. Even the newspaper 'Nieuwsblad van het Noorden' is the newspaper a red in those day's ;-)

the moon rock given to the queen must have been a fake moon rock, as the first moon rock given that same day is proven to be fake in 2009.
edit on 30-4-2015 by TheWhisper because: given that same day



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: webstra
She recieved it twice, one of apollo11 and one of apollo 17, as the museum site tells.

Yep that is the story but this thread is about the moon rock given to the Dutch Queen in 1969 by the Apollo 11 astronauts.
www.delpher.nl... ier=ddd%3A011015121%3Ampeg21%3Aa0009


I know what you mean. We have now 3 gifts proven. , and maybe a fourth one from the paper 'Nieuwsblad van het Noorden'.

One of them is proven fake (petrified wood). The other 2 I just posted are real or fake, not known by now.

It does not matter to me, even if the last two are real. You do not need manned moonlandings to get these small moonstones.



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: webstra

originally posted by: TheWhisper
a reply to: webstra

Here is the source article that states that the Queen got a moon rock from the Apollo astronauts it is in Dutch.

www.delpher.nl...:011015121:mpeg21:a0009&resultsidentifier=dd d:011015121:mpeg21:a0009


Dutch is not a problem, i'm dutch. Even the newspaper 'Nieuwsblad van het Noorden' is the newspaper a red in those day's ;-)

the moon rock given to the queen must have been a fake moon rock, as the first moon rock given that same day is proven to be fake in 2009.


I did not know that is was on the same day. It makes it more suspicious to me, for sure !



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: webstra

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: webstra
She recieved it twice, one of apollo11 and one of apollo 17, as the museum site tells.

Yep that is the story but this thread is about the moon rock given to the Dutch Queen in 1969 by the Apollo 11 astronauts.
www.delpher.nl... ier=ddd%3A011015121%3Ampeg21%3Aa0009


I know what you mean. We have now 3 gifts proven. , and maybe a fourth one from the paper 'Nieuwsblad van het Noorden'.

One of them is proven fake (petrified wood). The other 2 I just posted are real or fake, not known by now.

It does not matter to me, even if the last two are real. You do not need manned moonlandings to get these small moonstones.

Correct, now the problem for NASA is that according the newspaper the moon rock was given to the Dutch Queen by the astronauts. But there is no record of that stone given to the Queen where is it it? It is also a fake one as the Queen should had got the biggest rock.
edit on 30-4-2015 by TheWhisper because: it is also a fake one



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: webstra

Nope, you could just find a lunar meteorite and use its insides as the dust samples. Nobody would know any difference.



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 01:21 PM
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The New York Times once published that space flight of any kind was an impossibility and did not print a correction until July 17, 1969. After Mercury, Gemini, a few Apollo flights, and the Soviet flights, it would not have occurred to you that perhaps the newspaper was wrong?

That's all I'm asking, it doesn't occur to you the paper might be wrong in its report? The fact that only the queen of the Netherlands supposedly got a rock, whereas nobody else in the world was gifted with a rock on that tour, doesn't strike you as strange?

Or is it just something against your agenda, so you ignore it?



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: webstra

Nope, you could just find a lunar meteorite and use its insides as the dust samples. Nobody would know any difference.





posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: webstra

Nope, you could just find a lunar meteorite and use its insides as the dust samples. Nobody would know any difference.

True but one of petrified wood?



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