Second Fake Dutch Moon Rock Given To The Queen Of The Netherlands By Apollo 11 Crew!

a reply to: TheWhisper

If you don't wait too long we are really going multi-threading.

Moonhoaxexposing in overdrive.

originally posted by: webstra

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: webstra

originally posted by: TheWhisper
a reply to: webstra
Do you understand now why TW is not releasing more sources on this thread.

Please explain.

Have you read this thread, any serious question is made into a circus. When the investigation is finished the complete information will be uploaded. But that will not be this thread.

Yes a have read ALL the moonhoax threads here on ATS, don't you worry.

Can't wait for your next information, also from holland ?

You know what is funny, all these hard core Apollo believers asked for years why did Drees get a (fake) moon rock and the Queen of the Netherlands not. You show them a news article that stated that the Queen did get a moon rock from the Apollo astronauts and then the article is incorrect.

One other Dutch poster here on this thread claims to have do a 5 minutes investigation and that was enough to discredit the news article. Sounds like a NOS investigation when you ask TW.

a reply to: TheWhisper

and of course the other problem with this story is that every single bit of Moon Rock is catalogued. Of course there were 5 thefts of Moon Rock, I believe all the samples have been recovered. Also some of the samples given out to heads of state and the governors of some US States did go missing, but they were small pieces of stone and regolith, nothing rock like at all. In fact the largest sample stolen was 101grams in weight and consisted of multiple samples, which were recovered. So please explain exactly where these extra samples were supposed to have come from? The whole story is just illogical, it makes no sense to have happened, therefore with no concrete evidence it, in ALL likelyhood, did not happen

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: webstra

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: webstra

originally posted by: TheWhisper
a reply to: webstra
Do you understand now why TW is not releasing more sources on this thread.

Please explain.

Have you read this thread, any serious question is made into a circus. When the investigation is finished the complete information will be uploaded. But that will not be this thread.

Yes a have read ALL the moonhoax threads here on ATS, don't you worry.

Can't wait for your next information, also from holland ?

You know what is funny, all these hard core Apollo believers asked for years why did Drees get a (fake) moon rock and the Queen of the Netherlands not. You show them a news article that stated that the Queen did get a moon rock from the Apollo astronauts and then the article is incorrect.

One other Dutch poster here on this thread claims to have do a 5 minutes investigation and that was enough to discredit the news article. Sounds like a NOS investigation when you ask TW.

No, people asked why this honour was bestowed on an old man who had not been in government for the 11 years leading up to Apollo. Not "why didn't the queen get a rock!" Why not the PM of The Netherlands? why not the PM of the UK, Why not German chancellor? A ridiculous story, what ever side of the Hoax fence you sit on.

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: webstra
a reply to: TheWhisper

If you don't wait too long we are really going multi-threading.

Moonhoaxexposing in overdrive.

What you think of this that is discovered last month. ATS closed the thread within a few hours, this what NASA really fears. Above top secret the real stuff is here not welcome it seems.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

If a read that thread..it ends with a link to another earlier thread of the same topic ? That's normal.

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: webstra
a reply to: TheWhisper

If you don't wait too long we are really going multi-threading.

Moonhoaxexposing in overdrive.

What you think of this that is discovered last month. ATS closed the thread within a few hours, this what NASA really fears. Above top secret the real stuff is here not welcome it seems.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Be careful for your own sake! T&C forbids deliberately posting hoaxes.

TW AS think's it's on page 69 under "rot op debiel" ??? Is that it? AS don't understand Dutch so AS might be wrong...

a reply to: TheWhisper

You know what is funny, all these hard core Apollo believers asked for years why did Drees get a (fake) moon rock and the Queen of the Netherlands not.

Please link to a single post where anyone asks why Drees got a fake Moon rock and the Queen did not. The post must be at least two years old for you to justify making this claim.

originally posted by: webstra

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: webstra
a reply to: TheWhisper

If you don't wait too long we are really going multi-threading.

Moonhoaxexposing in overdrive.

What you think of this that is discovered last month. ATS closed the thread within a few hours, this what NASA really fears. Above top secret the real stuff is here not welcome it seems.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

If a read that thread..it ends with a link to another earlier thread of the same topic ? That's normal.

Thanks for that info

The news article about the Dutch queen who got a moon rock from the astronauts is just a small piece of a bigger puzzle. NASA gets in big problems when the story hits the wires that the Dutch queen did get a moon rock from the Apollo astronauts.

originally posted by: TheWhisper
The Story about the fake Dutch moon rock that was given to the Dutch former PM Willen Drees is well known. But that the three Apollo 11 astronauts did hand a moon rock to the Dutch queen during the same visit is never mentioned. It is a big piece of moon rock that is given to the Dutch Queen by the three astronauts. Obvious you would give a bigger piece of "moon" rock to the Queen as to former PM Willem Drees. Where is this "moon Rock" that was given to the Dutch Queen in 1969, this is the second fake moon rock that is given away in the Netherlands.
is hold up by Queen Juliana of the Netherlands 1969.

Kudos to OBM this is not the rock the queen holds in here hand. But it is stated in the caption that the queen did get a moon rock from the Apollo 11 crew.

the last line of the caption under the image:
"Bij de ontvangst in het paleis kreeg de Koningin een replica van de boodschappen die de astronauten op de maan achterlieten en een stukje maansteen."

Translation:
When the astronaut arrived the Queen received a replica of the message the astronauts left on the moon and a PIECE OF MOON ROCK.

Here is the streetviewlink to the place where the famous "queen juliana got moonrock on the same day as the netherlands recieved a fake moonrock" paper was printed.

'Beautiful picture of Hoofdkantoor Nieuwsblad van het Noorden (in 1969).

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: DelMarvel
a reply to: TheWhisper

It's difficult enough to follow threads without you confusing things by using the third person. Frankly, I"m at the point where I'm just skipping over your posts.

This thread is about the fake moon rock given to the Dutch queen on 9 October 1969. Maybe the moderator can pointed out to you that this thread is not about TW.

Oh, I disagree. I contend this thread is about NOTHING but TW and your inabiltiy to engage in an honest discussion.

Your one source is wrong, period, end of story. You beloved Queen DID NOT receive a moon rock from the Apollo 11 crew, real, fake or in between, and neither did your Mr. Drees.

Newspapers print invalid information all the time. For instance, if you peruse the Chico Enterprise Record local sports section, you will see they reported that the Orland High Trojans varsity baseball team defeated the Gridley High Bulldogs 3 to 2 on 4-10-2015.

However, the game in question was actually Orland High versus Chico High, not Gridley. I was there. The Enterprise Record has yet to print a retraction of this error. Does this mean, by your logic, Orland High did not, in fact, defeat Chico 3 to 2?

Enough games, Adrian. Post your other sources.

originally posted by: DDBrock

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: DelMarvel
a reply to: TheWhisper

It's difficult enough to follow threads without you confusing things by using the third person. Frankly, I"m at the point where I'm just skipping over your posts.

This thread is about the fake moon rock given to the Dutch queen on 9 October 1969. Maybe the moderator can pointed out to you that this thread is not about TW.

Oh, I disagree. I contend this thread is about NOTHING but TW and your inabiltiy to engage in an honest discussion.

Your one source is wrong, period, end of story. You beloved Queen DID NOT receive a moon rock from the Apollo 11 crew, real, fake or in between, and neither did your Mr. Drees.

Newspapers print invalid information all the time. For instance, if you peruse the Chico Enterprise Record local sports section, you will see they reported that the Orland High Trojans varsity baseball team defeated the Gridley High Bulldogs 3 to 2 on 4-10-2015.

However, the game in question was actually Orland High versus Chico High, not Gridley. I was there. The Enterprise Record has yet to print a retraction of this error. Does this mean, by your logic, Orland High did not, in fact, defeat Chico 3 to 2?

Enough games, Adrian. Post your other sources.

For sure newspapers can make a mistake. But then you need prove of that. Just telling that many other newspapers did not report that the Queen did receive a moon rock from the astronauts is not prove it didn't happen. When they rectify this article in 2015 then it gets really fun. Like stated before TW has more sources, the article in the newspaper that started this thread is freely available online so it is easy to show to everyone. In the end the whole story about the fake moon rocks given away in the Netherlands during the visit of the Apollo astronauts is very interesting.

MissVocalcord has stated on this thread that:

"Of course a second source telling the Queen received a moon rock might be found, but does this make the story more reliable? Sure not"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Team MV knows that there are other sources and that TW is correct. The problem for team MV is that they don't know the sources TW has as it is not obtained over the internet. If you disagree with what is said on the AwE130 website about the Queen who got a moon rock from the astronauts, we advise you to contact "De Raad Voor De Journalistiek" in the Netherlands and complain about it. TW looks forward to speak to the RVdJ again.

If you don't take action against the AwE130 website please stop complaining TW is giving you all the information how to official complain in the Netherlands we are a civilized country.

Website in English "Raad Voor De Journalistiek".
www.rvdj.nl...

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: DDBrock

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: DelMarvel
a reply to: TheWhisper

It's difficult enough to follow threads without you confusing things by using the third person. Frankly, I"m at the point where I'm just skipping over your posts.

This thread is about the fake moon rock given to the Dutch queen on 9 October 1969. Maybe the moderator can pointed out to you that this thread is not about TW.

Oh, I disagree. I contend this thread is about NOTHING but TW and your inabiltiy to engage in an honest discussion.

Your one source is wrong, period, end of story. You beloved Queen DID NOT receive a moon rock from the Apollo 11 crew, real, fake or in between, and neither did your Mr. Drees.

Newspapers print invalid information all the time. For instance, if you peruse the Chico Enterprise Record local sports section, you will see they reported that the Orland High Trojans varsity baseball team defeated the Gridley High Bulldogs 3 to 2 on 4-10-2015.

However, the game in question was actually Orland High versus Chico High, not Gridley. I was there. The Enterprise Record has yet to print a retraction of this error. Does this mean, by your logic, Orland High did not, in fact, defeat Chico 3 to 2?

Enough games, Adrian. Post your other sources.

For sure newspapers can make a mistake. But then you need prove of that. Just telling that many other newspapers did not report that the Queen did receive a moon rock from the astronauts is not prove it didn't happen. When they rectify this article in 2015 then it gets really fun. Like stated before TW has more sources, the article in the newspaper that started this thread is freely available online so it is easy to show to everyone. In the end the whole story about the fake moon rocks given away in the Netherlands during the visit of the Apollo astronauts is very interesting.

MissVocalcord has stated on this thread that:

"Of course a second source telling the Queen received a moon rock might be found, but does this make the story more reliable? Sure not"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Team MV knows that there are other sources and that TW is correct. The problem for team MV is that they don't know the sources TW has as it is not obtained over the internet. If you disagree with what is said on the AwE130 website about the Queen who got a moon rock from the astronauts, we advise you to contact "De Raad Voor De Journalistiek" in the Netherlands and complain about it. TW looks forward to speak to the RVdJ again.

If you don't take action against the AwE130 website please stop complaining TW is giving you all the information how to official complain in the Netherlands we are a civilized country.

Website in English "Raad Voor De Journalistiek".
www.rvdj.nl...

*Yawn* Whatever man, maybe you should keep out of the coffee shop for a while. I think you've had too much "coffee".

P.S. Let us know when you post your other sources. Oh and before you get too excited don't forget that stories are normally written from a common source, sometimes stories are even written based on another paper's exclusive, shared within the same company group, etc. Whatever you *think* you've found Adrian, I'm pretty sure its not as groundbreaking as you think. The fact they mock you on Infowars says it all.

a reply to: TheWhisper

For sure newspapers can make a mistake.

Then why not just admit they made a mistake?

But then you need prove of that.

No, it is the positive assertion-- that the paper did not make a mistake-- that needs to be corroborated by other sources.

Just telling that many other newspapers did not report that the Queen did receive a moon rock from the astronauts is not prove it didn't happen.

Actually, it is excellent evidence that the paper made a mistake!

When they rectify this article in 2015 then it gets really fun.

Why? Why should they correct a forty year old article, and why do you think it would be fun?

Like stated before TW has more sources, the article in the newspaper that started this thread is freely available online so it is easy to show to everyone.

You have yet to prove that there are other sources, something, incidentally, which would decisively resolve the question in your favor, and it seems unlikely that you have a team. At least a real, not imaginary, one.

In the end the whole story about the fake moon rocks given away in the Netherlands during the visit of the Apollo astronauts is very interesting.

No, your whole story is ridiculous and was disproved on page one of this thread. What is interesting is your bizarre behavior.

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: DDBrock

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: DelMarvel
a reply to: TheWhisper

It's difficult enough to follow threads without you confusing things by using the third person. Frankly, I"m at the point where I'm just skipping over your posts.

This thread is about the fake moon rock given to the Dutch queen on 9 October 1969. Maybe the moderator can pointed out to you that this thread is not about TW.

Oh, I disagree. I contend this thread is about NOTHING but TW and your inabiltiy to engage in an honest discussion.

Your one source is wrong, period, end of story. You beloved Queen DID NOT receive a moon rock from the Apollo 11 crew, real, fake or in between, and neither did your Mr. Drees.

Newspapers print invalid information all the time. For instance, if you peruse the Chico Enterprise Record local sports section, you will see they reported that the Orland High Trojans varsity baseball team defeated the Gridley High Bulldogs 3 to 2 on 4-10-2015.

However, the game in question was actually Orland High versus Chico High, not Gridley. I was there. The Enterprise Record has yet to print a retraction of this error. Does this mean, by your logic, Orland High did not, in fact, defeat Chico 3 to 2?

Enough games, Adrian. Post your other sources.

For sure newspapers can make a mistake. But then you need prove of that. Just telling that many other newspapers did not report that the Queen did receive a moon rock from the astronauts is not prove it didn't happen. When they rectify this article in 2015 then it gets really fun. Like stated before TW has more sources, the article in the newspaper that started this thread is freely available online so it is easy to show to everyone. In the end the whole story about the fake moon rocks given away in the Netherlands during the visit of the Apollo astronauts is very interesting.

MissVocalcord has stated on this thread that:

"Of course a second source telling the Queen received a moon rock might be found, but does this make the story more reliable? Sure not"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Team MV knows that there are other sources and that TW is correct. The problem for team MV is that they don't know the sources TW has as it is not obtained over the internet. If you disagree with what is said on the AwE130 website about the Queen who got a moon rock from the astronauts, we advise you to contact "De Raad Voor De Journalistiek" in the Netherlands and complain about it. TW looks forward to speak to the RVdJ again.

If you don't take action against the AwE130 website please stop complaining TW is giving you all the information how to official complain in the Netherlands we are a civilized country.

Website in English "Raad Voor De Journalistiek".
www.rvdj.nl...

Actually, I'm positive "Team MV" and everyone else is fair sure TW is anything BUT correct.

You keep stating your original article stands, but the only source you can provide is your own website. Sorry, Bub. That ain't how it works.

Miss Vocalcord and others HAVE provided others sources (that aren't associated with themselves) that discount your precious incorrect Dutch paper. That you choose to ignore it is irrelevant. Your article nor your claim do NOT stand as you have failed to confirm ANY source corroborating your claim.

Now, why would I bother complaining about AwE130's journalistic practices? AwE130 is, by your own admission a "tiny Dutch hobby website." Your words, Adrian. You aren't a journalist, you are a conspiracy theorist.

Now, if you have actual journalism sources to post, by all means, dazzle us.

originally posted by: DDBrock

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: DDBrock

originally posted by: TheWhisper

originally posted by: DelMarvel
a reply to: TheWhisper

It's difficult enough to follow threads without you confusing things by using the third person. Frankly, I"m at the point where I'm just skipping over your posts.

This thread is about the fake moon rock given to the Dutch queen on 9 October 1969. Maybe the moderator can pointed out to you that this thread is not about TW.

Oh, I disagree. I contend this thread is about NOTHING but TW and your inabiltiy to engage in an honest discussion.

Your one source is wrong, period, end of story. You beloved Queen DID NOT receive a moon rock from the Apollo 11 crew, real, fake or in between, and neither did your Mr. Drees.

Newspapers print invalid information all the time. For instance, if you peruse the Chico Enterprise Record local sports section, you will see they reported that the Orland High Trojans varsity baseball team defeated the Gridley High Bulldogs 3 to 2 on 4-10-2015.

However, the game in question was actually Orland High versus Chico High, not Gridley. I was there. The Enterprise Record has yet to print a retraction of this error. Does this mean, by your logic, Orland High did not, in fact, defeat Chico 3 to 2?

Enough games, Adrian. Post your other sources.

For sure newspapers can make a mistake. But then you need prove of that. Just telling that many other newspapers did not report that the Queen did receive a moon rock from the astronauts is not prove it didn't happen. When they rectify this article in 2015 then it gets really fun. Like stated before TW has more sources, the article in the newspaper that started this thread is freely available online so it is easy to show to everyone. In the end the whole story about the fake moon rocks given away in the Netherlands during the visit of the Apollo astronauts is very interesting.

MissVocalcord has stated on this thread that:

"Of course a second source telling the Queen received a moon rock might be found, but does this make the story more reliable? Sure not"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Team MV knows that there are other sources and that TW is correct. The problem for team MV is that they don't know the sources TW has as it is not obtained over the internet. If you disagree with what is said on the AwE130 website about the Queen who got a moon rock from the astronauts, we advise you to contact "De Raad Voor De Journalistiek" in the Netherlands and complain about it. TW looks forward to speak to the RVdJ again.

If you don't take action against the AwE130 website please stop complaining TW is giving you all the information how to official complain in the Netherlands we are a civilized country.

Website in English "Raad Voor De Journalistiek".
www.rvdj.nl...

Actually, I'm positive "Team MV" and everyone else is fair sure TW is anything BUT correct.

You keep stating your original article stands, but the only source you can provide is your own website. Sorry, Bub. That ain't how it works.

Miss Vocalcord and others HAVE provided others sources (that aren't associated with themselves) that discount your precious incorrect Dutch paper. That you choose to ignore it is irrelevant. Your article nor your claim do NOT stand as you have failed to confirm ANY source corroborating your claim.

Now, why would I bother complaining about AwE130's journalistic practices? AwE130 is, by your own admission a "tiny Dutch hobby website." Your words, Adrian. You aren't a journalist, you are a conspiracy theorist.

Now, if you have actual journalism sources to post, by all means, dazzle us.

Quite agree DD and in reference to the Drees rock, there is no newspaper coverage of that unprecedented occasion, that does not post date his death. It would have been a very newsworthy event, if he were indeed given, a large piece of moon rock by the US ambassador. The absence of any articles in ANY paper from the time is one of the biggest reasons for that event being a NON story too.

Indeed, and not least of which because no one else received a rock anywhere near as large as that one is claimed to be. That no mention of Mr. Drees receiving a moon rock was ever made on coverage of that trip is of litttle concern to a hoaxer like TW.

It's one of Adrian's favorite tactics. Glom on to a single offhand comment and treat it as if It were Holy Scripture, all the while studiouslly ignoring far more credible and reliable evidence to the contrary. Quote mining and cherry picking hearsay are all he knows.

I just love that he is now trying to insinuate he's some kind of joirnalist. Priceless.

originally posted by: webstra

originally posted by: TheWhisper
The Story about the fake Dutch moon rock that was given to the Dutch former PM Willen Drees is well known. But that the three Apollo 11 astronauts did hand a moon rock to the Dutch queen during the same visit is never mentioned. It is a big piece of moon rock that is given to the Dutch Queen by the three astronauts. Obvious you would give a bigger piece of "moon" rock to the Queen as to former PM Willem Drees. Where is this "moon Rock" that was given to the Dutch Queen in 1969, this is the second fake moon rock that is given away in the Netherlands.
is hold up by Queen Juliana of the Netherlands 1969.

Kudos to OBM this is not the rock the queen holds in here hand. But it is stated in the caption that the queen did get a moon rock from the Apollo 11 crew.

the last line of the caption under the image:
"Bij de ontvangst in het paleis kreeg de Koningin een replica van de boodschappen die de astronauten op de maan achterlieten en een stukje maansteen."

Translation:
When the astronaut arrived the Queen received a replica of the message the astronauts left on the moon and a PIECE OF MOON ROCK.

Here is the streetviewlink to the place where the famous "queen juliana got moonrock on the same day as the netherlands recieved a fake moonrock" paper was printed.

'Beautiful picture of Hoofdkantoor Nieuwsblad van het Noorden (in 1969).

A new discovery will turn the whole Dutch moon rock drama upside down.

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: KissaCat

I think the important thing that TW is showing here is that there's written evidence, whether a mistake or not, that states otherwise. The entire story is weird. Why would anyone try to pass petrified wood as moon rocks? It's interesting to ponder and I guess it really makes others angry. It's a good thread with good information from both sides. People just get emotionally attached to a particular view then ruin the thread with bickering.

next information about the Fake moon rock and the Queen will turn into a drama for NASA. TW is informed to release it as it is again backed by other not released sources that are found.

Stay tuned and enjoin the journey towards the truth for all mankind. We are the Whisper!