Originally posted by MKULTRA

I'm sure it was just swamp gas


There are alot of "important people" deaths associated with Clinton's reign. Clinton himself, while a member of the Cabal, isn't quite a powerful as his wife, in terms of bloodlines. Wait and see, she'll be the first appointed (whoops, elected) woman president.

What can you tell us about Hillary's bloodline. I hadn't heard. I try to stay informed...but there's SOOOOOOOO much.

2 facts...1. it was shot down with a missle, not a stinger though, 2. the wrong plane was shot down

TWA Flight 800, H.A.A.R.P.
and the Philadelphia Experiment ~
The real reason TWA Flight 800 was destroyed
Pierre Salinger, respected journalist
and former press secretary for the Kennedy Administration,
was convinced to go public with a document posted on the Internet by a person
"inside the Government" who has high level connections to the TWA Flight 800 investigation.
The Document in question described the release of a missile from a Navy ship with an Ageis Missile system
in a Navy exercise area off the coast of New York's Long Island in an area known as Warning Area 105.

I have information regarding the real information hidden within the document. I cannot reveal my identity for fear of endangering my life. Several witnesses on the night of the explosion, including the pilot of a New York Air National Guard plane, reported the sighting of "an orange streak of light" descending toward Flight 800. Some have speculated this to be a missile, others a meteor and some conspiracy people have suggested a UFO. None of the above are true. The truth of this matter will be so startling that you will not believe it at first reading but you will eventually have to accept it as fact.
The "streak of light" was an electro-magnetic-temporal ribbon that sliced through the atmosphere on the night of July 17th, 1996. This ribbon was created as a result of the conjunction of several top-secret government scientific experiments involving Einstein's Unified Field Theory (UFT) and the effects of high electro-magnetic frequency waves on portions of the atmosphere to warp into existence a rift in the space-time continuum.

At 8:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, two large antenna arrays, the first one in the state of Alaska known as the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Project (HAARP) and the second in Norway known as European Incoherent Scatter Radar site (EISCAT), were activated to study the creation of temporal anomalies in the Earth’s atmosphere by altering the magnetosphere of the Earth in a way to cause such intense fields of magnetic compression within an area to warp a rift into the space-time continuum. The purpose of the project was to create this rift to study Einstein’s Unified Field Theory. Several sites across the Earth were selected for the creation of the rift in areas away from civilian centers and airline traffic.

The target area was to be over the center of the Atlantic Ocean and was to be studied by top-secret Military Atmospheric Information Satellites (MAIS). Several other attempts at this experiment failed due to miscalculations within the internal sub-processors of at least three Cray-3 super computers stored at the HAARP site. Once the sub-processors within the Cray-3's were replaced and several maintenance and calibration checks were performed, the system was at full operation on the night of July 17th, 1996. The facilities of HAARP in Alaska and EISCAT in Norway were simultaneously put into operation.

Once the experiment was started the rift was created, it was only visible to the MAIS satellites and the American and European Governments scientific personnel stationed at HAARP and EISCAT. This experiment was a success until TWA Flight 800 intersected with an invisible "temporal axis" left permanently in place by two previous experiments by the U.S. Government to study Einstein’s Unified Field Theory. If a line were drawn across the Earth to connect these two sites of previous experiments, one end of the line would end in Philadelphia Harbor in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and the other in Montauk, Long Island.

Philadelphia Harbor was the location of an Unified Field Theory experiment on August 15th, 1943, known as the "Philadelphia Experiment". A Navy Destroyer Escort known as the U.S.S. Eldrige (DE 173) was outfitted with large electromagnetic Tesla coils for an experiment involving "radar invisibility". The first test of the ship was a success but a second test on that fateful day would prove fatal to many crew members who would man the ship. According to classified ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence) files, the U.S.S. Eldrige underwent a dramatic change once the experiment was under way. The ship, was surrounded by a green haze of electromagnetic energy and the Eldrige vanished in splaying light into the space-time continuum.

Echoes of the Eldrige were scattered all over the space time continuum both in the past and the future in the proximity of both high electromagnetic fields and temporal distortion fields. One echo appeared in the previous port of the Eldrige, Norfolk, Virginia. The ship re-appeared in Philadelphia with several crew members burned, some phased and combined with the super-structure of the ship and others who vanished or were able to walk through walls and one man apparently traveled through time to the year 1984 as you will see later. Several more echoes of the Eldrige have appeared since 1943 and would be significant in the events that followed later.

A second experiment to study Einstein’s Unified Field Theory took place in Montauk, Long Island in the summer of 1984. This experiment was meant to be an improvement on the original Philadelphia Experiment. This project would also have dire consequences that would endanger the Earth itself. The experiment was activated and in hyper-dimensional space, which has no time what-so-ever, the effect of the Montauk Project intersected with the effects of the Philadelphia Experiment. A vortex was opened up between the years 1943 and 1984.

An echo of the U.S.S. Eldrige appeared and vanished. One of the sailors from the Eldrige was stranded in the year 1984 at Montauk. According to scientists working on the Montauk Project, the vortex between Montauk and Philadelphia was staying open because it was still being controlled by the generators powering the electro-magnetic coils on the Eldrige in 1943.

If the vortex had stayed open, the 1984 Earth would have been pulled into hyperdimensonal space and destroyed as it passed through the vortex and collided with the 1943 Earth. The sailor from the Eldrige was convinced to go back through the vortex to the U.S.S. Eldrige in 1943 and shut down the generators. He went back and destroyed several vacuum tube arrays for the circuity running the 1943 experiment. He then vanished, never to be seen again.

Although the vortex was closed between Philadelphia 1943 and Montauk 1984, a permanent "temporal axis" was left between the two sites, stretching from Philadelphia, across New Jersey and across the Atlantic Ocean, just ten miles south of Long Island until it reached Montauk. Now we get to July 17th, 1996.

As TWA Flight 800 was rising to 13,000 feet, it was also intersecting with this "temporal axis". At the moment TWA Flight 800 intersected, the transponder was continuously sending a signal to JFK International Tower, giving it's location on the Air Traffic Control Screens. This signal was at the exact same harmonic frequency as the temporal distortion caused by HAARP and EISCAT over the Atlantic. The temporal distortion became naturally attracted to the harmonic signal emanating from the TWA's transponder and "quantum leaped" from it's original site to cross the "temporal axis" at a 90 degree angle, at the exact point in which TWA Flight 800 intersected with it.

An orange streak of light became visible as the temporal distortion appeared from it's quantum leap and then shortened it's length down to the plane from both directions. The rift tore through the plane, destroying the transponder and causing a massive explosion of molten metal that punctured the center fuel tank. This is why some witnesses say the streak of light came from above (the meteor theory) or it rose from below (the missile theory) and why there has been no evidence of a bomb, missile or mechanical failure. The first "booming" sound heard by witnesses was the temporal rift destroying the center fuel tank and the second sound was the wing tanks beginning to explode.

The destruction of the center fuel tank caused the chain reaction explosion through out the fuel tanks in the wings while the plane plummeted to the Atlantic, killing all 230 people on board. At the exact same moment of the destruction of Flight 800, an echo of the U.S.S. Eldrige appeared on the Atlantic, 13,000 feet directly underneath the plane. The Eldrige appearance explains why there were reports of a ship in the area near Flight 800 and then discounted by the Government as conjecture by the media.

There have been periodic after effects of this juncture with the most recent reappearance of the rift appearing near a Pakistani airliner on November 16th, 1996 while it followed the same path as Flight 800. The transponder of the Pakistani Airliner temporarily reactivated the temporal rift. The rift was activated again by a Canadian Airlines 747 on December 13th, 1996.

The current news stories are telling us that there was a spark near an air conditioning unit (what the hell does air conditioning have to do with the center fuel tank anyways?) that set off the explosion, what's not being told is the "spark" the authorities are not telling us about is the rupture in the space time continuum.

This is the true story that needs to be told and the doors must be opened on the secrecy surrounding top secret Unified Field Theory projects before more deaths are caused.

Let the truth be known.

I found this on the black vault

There still seems to be survivors and they have some ties to being at the september 11th attacks as well.

"During the first week in August, 2003, Al Bielek predicted the failure of a major power grid sometime in mid-August in the United States. Bielek made this prediction on the nationally syndicated Coast to Coast radio show which features themes associated with the unexplained, paranormal and earth changes.

As someone who has claimed to have traveled into the future during experiments at the Montauk Base on Long Island during the 1980s and the original Philadelphia Experiment in the 1940s, people have often questioned his stories of government experiments with time travel and mind control. When I filmed an interview with him and two other Montauk Survivors in 1989 introducing them to the world at large, he recalled being in the midst of terrible devastation in New York City at some future point in time. Bielek had been transported there, he said, by a time device located at Montauk. All three knew about the event, but beyond describing the destruction, would not comment on it. I now believe that Al Bielek had traveled to 2001 and witnessed the aftermath of the World Trade Center attacks.

Given his latest prediction, it seems that skeptics owe Bielek an apology. One could argue that local power failures happen in the summertime because of demands placed on systems by air conditioners, but to predict an entire grid would go down and then have it happen during the time period he said it would is more then coincidence! Bielek attributed this to the fact that it’s the 60th anniversary of the Philadelphia Experiment. What he meant by that, I’m not sure. But this may be a message from the future to the past that time travel is real and the U.S. Government is covering it up."

i think we need to make up a new research team on this subject, and possibly the clinton's ties to (whom im not sure yet, theyre devious bastards)

Originally posted by kalki
At the exact same moment of the destruction of Flight 800, an echo of the U.S.S. Eldrige appeared on the Atlantic, 13,000 feet directly underneath the plane. The Eldrige appearance explains why there were reports of a ship in the area near Flight 800 and then discounted by the Government as conjecture by the media.

I need a little help here.

If we accept the fact that the original Philadelphia experiment occurred during the day (as has been mentioned) then how would an echo of it be visible at night?

At night time you ID ships by their light configuration, or you can use some kind of Night Vision Device. Even with that it is very difficult to name a specific ship unless you are very, very close to it.

Are we to believe that someone got close enough that night to say that the ship there was a WWII ship that was travelling through time? Give me a break, my bs meter is pegged.

I am still leaning towards the navy blew it up theory. I am not convinced by the Philidelphia Experiment one. From what the eyewitnesses report, thier descriptions to me sound alot like a low speed missile launch to me.

Another forgotten air accident is American Airlines flight 587...the one that crashed two months to the date of 9/11 (Nov 11, 2001). The one that just "fell apart" over Brooklyn. I think thats linked with 9/11 as well.

Interesting thing to note, a pentagon offical who was heavily involved with the Aegis missile defense project was on board flight 800. Interesting, no?

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
I am still leaning towards the navy blew it up theory. I am not convinced by the Philidelphia Experiment one. From what the eyewitnesses report, thier descriptions to me sound alot like a low speed missile launch to me.

Then can you enlighten us as to the launch platform for this missile? I have researched the ships in the area and I can find no proof of any US Navy ship within missile range of where the plane exploded.

Interesting thing to note, a pentagon offical who was heavily involved with the Aegis missile defense project was on board flight 800. Interesting, no?

And your point is what? The Navy has a great many AEGIS experts. Heck I am probably considered and AEGIS expert based on my experience with the system.

Click the link at the beginning of thisd thread, COOLHAND.

I am tired of having to post the same information over and over because your too lazy to click a link.

Read link, THEN ask questions.

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Another forgotten air accident is American Airlines flight 587...the one that crashed two months to the date of 9/11 (Nov 11, 2001). The one that just "fell apart" over Brooklyn. I think thats linked with 9/11 as well.

You keep comming back to these 9/11 Training events, and I have a couple questions.

1. What is being trained for and how does it relate to 9/11?
2. Who is carrying out these trials?
3. Planes crash all the time, a few after 9/11, using your logic I would assume they are all 9/11 training scenarios?
4. If the Brooklyn plane was indeed some sort of orchestrated event, isnt it odd the death toll was suprisingly low for a plane crashing into a suburban area?

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Click the link at the beginning of thisd thread, COOLHAND.

I am tired of having to post the same information over and over because your too lazy to click a link.

Read link, THEN ask questions.

Okay, I read the link. In fact I reread every message on this thread. No where does it answer what I asked, so I will ask again.

What Navy ship did it? You are so convinced that I am sure you have concrete proof of it and can show it to everyone. You made the claim, can you back it up?

I remember that and it is supposed to be definately a missile, and a military one. No terrorist attack, though i am not sure. Accident? Eh? ...

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Remeber the explosion of flight 800 over long island back in 96? First reports were that it was downed by a missile.
Any thoughts?

Oh Evil one ,
THere are several unanswered question about Flight 800. While I remain sckeptical about a missile downing the plane, i do find it interesting that 800, the Swiss Air flight, and the forgotten Egypt Air flight all flew through that corridor and all flights met with disaster. The Egypt air flight particularly smackes of a coverup. My sister is a middle east major and is fluent in arabic. The translation of the pilot that was given to the media was not exactly what was said. The flight contained several Egypt military types that could have been marked for elimination (possible to prevent a Sadat like assasination)
Okay were am I going with this. We have 3 flights, all went down while transiting a partcular area. 1 flight has been ruled a suicide attempt under dubious circumstances. All flight exibited symptoms of some sort of electrical problems. TWA (Fuel tank explosion), Swiss Air (Electrical Fire), and Egypt Air can be explained by partial controll system failure.
Is it possible that all three planes were hit by an EMP pulse that disabled or eventualy caused the failure of thier systems that resulted in thier crashing. Or perhaps in the Swiss Air and Egypt air flights, one pulse was not enuf that is why they had to hit them again. That would explain why they were further than the TWA flight.

my take: the plane was destroyed by terrorist action. However, Clinton felt that waging a 'war on terror' would put a jam into gradual globalization... as countries would inevitably turn against the US after it struck at countries that harbored terrorists. Since he saw globalization as a good thing... he didn't want to do anything that could break the world into opposing camps. The decision was made, then, to pretend that the event never happened.

If it would have been a terrorist attack, there should be plenty of proof for that, even by now, it would come to surface.

Last week the Confuse History Channel did a conspiracy story on flight 800. Its amazing to me with the volume of informational facts availiable on the net that they would assemble a documentary in such a loose disinforming manner that practically steers the viewer into disinterest.
Some interesting things ive observed in this show that was not even core subject material or even addressed in this Doc.
Most all the Primary People that Boldly Challenged the Governments overall investigation in this issure, were referenced as "Died or Passed Away".
The FBI Said they invite anyone to look at the plane mockup still in the hanger and show proof of an external attack (funny the last people that did they prosecuted).
All agencies said over 95% of the plane was recovered but the only thing left in the hanger is the 75% of the cabin upper shell NOW void of wings and any other component ever suggested was undeniable proof of a missile.
Now one seems to know where the rest is FBI or NTSB, Guess 75,000 pounds of Aluminum just slipped out of a level 1 secured building for a cold one at the local pub and couldnt find its way home .
Funny That My freind still has some of the few pictures he downloaded from the site the people that were prosecuted had up at that time, that a federal judge allowed to remain on the site after they were arrestsed.
In all these pictures the mockup is with the wings, and in one picture you can clearly see a 3 foot diameter hole entering the bottom of the Right Wing at the Cabin and Exiting the top of the same wing. Surely he could not have been the only one to save these images.
Funny that all these coponents have been stripped from the mockup

Originally posted by Iwunder
Funny That My freind still has some of the few pictures he downloaded from the site the people that were prosecuted had up at that time, that a federal judge allowed to remain on the site after they were arrestsed.
In all these pictures the mockup is with the wings, and in one picture you can clearly see a 3 foot diameter hole entering the bottom of the Right Wing at the Cabin and Exiting the top of the same wing.

Please! Do get these images and post them. I am very interested in seeing these images.

Yea if I dont have an unexplained car accident or similiar heart attack in between I will post, Funny I used to have a copy he gave me placed in this computer but they seem to have vanished.
I guess I will have to upload from my read only CD drive