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originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NavyDoc
I don't think you understand?
If you sell a product or service to ALL, then you sell to ALL. Customers are EQUAL.
He understands. He just doesn't agree.
He seems to think we live in a Democracy, not a Republic.
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NavyDoc
All customers are not equal. Some get a discount for cash, some pay more for credit or a payment plan.
Eh? Somebody else brought up the same silly argument about poor people.
Question:
Are black people equal to white people? Are gay people equal to straight people? Are Christians equal to Muslims? And so on and on?
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NavyDoc
I don't think you understand?
If you sell a product or service to ALL, then you sell to ALL. Customers are EQUAL.
He understands. He just doesn't agree.
He seems to think we live in a Democracy, not a Republic.
Okay, that's laughable. A republic where the rights of the individual are protected even when we don't like them by the law are radically opposite to your belief of forcing a private individual to engage in commerce unwillingly. Heck, that belief isn't even democratic--it leans towards fascism.
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: Annee
and you have equal representation, but your rights should never remove the rights of another person..
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NavyDoc
I don't think you understand?
If you sell a product or service to ALL, then you sell to ALL. Customers are EQUAL.
He understands. He just doesn't agree.
He seems to think we live in a Democracy, not a Republic.
Okay, that's laughable. A republic where the rights of the individual are protected even when we don't like them by the law are radically opposite to your belief of forcing a private individual to engage in commerce unwillingly. Heck, that belief isn't even democratic--it leans towards fascism.
You want me to say Constitutional Republic?
Still, what you propose is Democracy - - majority rule.
Because that's what your proposal of "independent" will result in.
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NavyDoc
They are all equal which is why the desires of one citizen does not supersede the desires of another.
Eh? Then you agree? Anyone should be able to buy products and services with no problem? I think you are confusing yourself.
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NavyDoc
I don't think you understand?
If you sell a product or service to ALL, then you sell to ALL. Customers are EQUAL.
He understands. He just doesn't agree.
He seems to think we live in a Democracy, not a Republic.
Okay, that's laughable. A republic where the rights of the individual are protected even when we don't like them by the law are radically opposite to your belief of forcing a private individual to engage in commerce unwillingly. Heck, that belief isn't even democratic--it leans towards fascism.
You want me to say Constitutional Republic?
Still, what you propose is Democracy - - majority rule.
Because that's what your proposal of "independent" will result in.
No, what you want is the majority to force the minority. If everybody is mad at the pizza guy who does not want to cater a gay wedding, you want the state to force him or remove his lively hood. That is more the principle of mob rule--and even pushing towards fascism.
The first amendment was not just about freedom den religion but also freedom of religion you only choose to see half of the equation.
I disagree with cultural Marxism.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NavyDoc
I don't think you understand?
If you sell a product or service to ALL, then you sell to ALL. Customers are EQUAL.
He understands. He just doesn't agree.
He seems to think we live in a Democracy, not a Republic.
Okay, that's laughable. A republic where the rights of the individual are protected even when we don't like them by the law are radically opposite to your belief of forcing a private individual to engage in commerce unwillingly. Heck, that belief isn't even democratic--it leans towards fascism.
You want me to say Constitutional Republic?
Still, what you propose is Democracy - - majority rule.
Because that's what your proposal of "independent" will result in.
No, what you want is the majority to force the minority. If everybody is mad at the pizza guy who does not want to cater a gay wedding, you want the state to force him or remove his lively hood. That is more the principle of mob rule--and even pushing towards fascism.
Who's the minority?
You are seriously going to debate your "every man for himself" using this single incident?
There would be no incident if the pizza place respected the minority - - - LGBT
Yes, MOB RULE - - - Christians vs minority group.
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NavyDoc
I don't think you understand?
If you sell a product or service to ALL, then you sell to ALL. Customers are EQUAL.
He understands. He just doesn't agree.
He seems to think we live in a Democracy, not a Republic.
Okay, that's laughable. A republic where the rights of the individual are protected even when we don't like them by the law are radically opposite to your belief of forcing a private individual to engage in commerce unwillingly. Heck, that belief isn't even democratic--it leans towards fascism.
You want me to say Constitutional Republic?
Still, what you propose is Democracy - - majority rule.
Because that's what your proposal of "independent" will result in.
No, what you want is the majority to force the minority. If everybody is mad at the pizza guy who does not want to cater a gay wedding, you want the state to force him or remove his lively hood. That is more the principle of mob rule--and even pushing towards fascism.
Who's the minority?
You are seriously going to debate your "every man for himself" using this single incident?
There would be no incident if the pizza place respected the minority - - - LGBT
Yes, MOB RULE - - - Christians vs minority group.
Yes mob rule. Big government statists vs individual business owners.
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NavyDoc
I'm not sure but it seems that you want to bring back the 60's like few others on ATS.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NavyDoc
I don't think you understand?
If you sell a product or service to ALL, then you sell to ALL. Customers are EQUAL.
He understands. He just doesn't agree.
He seems to think we live in a Democracy, not a Republic.
Okay, that's laughable. A republic where the rights of the individual are protected even when we don't like them by the law are radically opposite to your belief of forcing a private individual to engage in commerce unwillingly. Heck, that belief isn't even democratic--it leans towards fascism.
You want me to say Constitutional Republic?
Still, what you propose is Democracy - - majority rule.
Because that's what your proposal of "independent" will result in.
No, what you want is the majority to force the minority. If everybody is mad at the pizza guy who does not want to cater a gay wedding, you want the state to force him or remove his lively hood. That is more the principle of mob rule--and even pushing towards fascism.
Who's the minority?
You are seriously going to debate your "every man for himself" using this single incident?
There would be no incident if the pizza place respected the minority - - - LGBT
Yes, MOB RULE - - - Christians vs minority group.
Yes mob rule. Big government statists vs individual business owners.
A business license is government.
If you want a business you agree to terms.
A business is not your personal belief.
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NavyDoc
You might want to get original with your straw man arguements
LOL what the heck are you talking about? I'm just asking you!
What you are doing is supporting discrimination!
Pro-choice? This isn't about abortion.
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NavyDoc
I don't think you understand?
If you sell a product or service to ALL, then you sell to ALL. Customers are EQUAL.
He understands. He just doesn't agree.
He seems to think we live in a Democracy, not a Republic.
Okay, that's laughable. A republic where the rights of the individual are protected even when we don't like them by the law are radically opposite to your belief of forcing a private individual to engage in commerce unwillingly. Heck, that belief isn't even democratic--it leans towards fascism.
You want me to say Constitutional Republic?
Still, what you propose is Democracy - - majority rule.
Because that's what your proposal of "independent" will result in.
No, what you want is the majority to force the minority. If everybody is mad at the pizza guy who does not want to cater a gay wedding, you want the state to force him or remove his lively hood. That is more the principle of mob rule--and even pushing towards fascism.
Who's the minority?
You are seriously going to debate your "every man for himself" using this single incident?
There would be no incident if the pizza place respected the minority - - - LGBT
Yes, MOB RULE - - - Christians vs minority group.
Yes mob rule. Big government statists vs individual business owners.
A business license is government.
If you want a business you agree to terms.
A business is not your personal belief.
So say you. What gives you the right to decide for someone ekse? That the state forces you to get a license to have a livelihood is neirher tacit agreement with the states positions on everything, total surrender of your autonomy, or carte blanche to have everything dictated to you. What you advocate us fascism. Not so long ago it was against the law for gay people to own a business. Would you agree with that? Would you say, "suck it up, that's part of having a business license?"