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Strange hole in cloud




Topic started on 18-12-2004 @ 10:56 AM by nibiru


I think this is the right place to post this, sorry if its not

These were taken at 10:30 this morning


The second photo, a minute later has a sort of rainbow effect i presume from the sun reflecting off the edge of the cloud


Does anyone know what could have caused it?

Was it just an unusual shape in the cloud or something to do with air pressure/heat or was it the beginning of a hurricane or something similar?



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 11:04 AM by St Udio



Originally posted by nibiru

These were taken at 10:30 this morning


Does anyone know what could have caused it?

Was it just an unusual shape in the cloud or something to do with air pressure/heat or was it the beginning of a hurricane or something similar?



don't know for certain....but
IF that effect had happened on the 13th of a month
it might have been attributed to the 'Marian Apparitions'

? didn't you experience a sense of awe or wonder when it appeared?

thanks



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 11:17 AM by Indy


Very weird. I remember seeing a pic on the net very similar to that one. It was taken in the skies over Melbourne, FL. a few years back. I'm clueless on this one.



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 11:56 AM by Freedom_for_sum


I had to edit my previous statment when I said that it appears to be the center of a low pressure area. I captured this image from weather.com:

www.w3.weather.com...

The snapshot taken at 12:18 GMT (approximately 1 1/2 hours after your picutre was taken) shows a small "hole" over the vicinity of London.

I'm not familiar with the geography of London. Is there a large body of water in the direction you took the picture? What could cause that hole is an area of relatively warmer air, casued by the land/water mass below, that allows the absorption of water molecules in that specific area.

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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 12:24 PM by Freedom_for_sum


Also, this chart, which is a surface analysis was taken at 1200 GMT.

129.13.102.67...

It shows the area over Great Brittain (located right of center of the chart) to be relatively benign (Light winds, stable air mass) further emphasising in my mind that surface heating caused the "hole" in the clouds.



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 02:17 PM by nibiru


There is a lake about a mile away which is roughly 200m x 50m. Apart from that i can't think of any other mass of water in that direction



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 02:22 PM by Freedom_for_sum


And here is another explanation...

epod.usra.edu...

Given the temp you guys have over there, this seems very plausible



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 02:44 PM by madhatter


You know....I have seen a very similar pic myself somewhere.
Naturally I now can't find it
I have an idea it was on a website to do with HAARP.
Or something to do with EMF weapons. Excellent picture by the way



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 02:49 PM by nibiru



Here are a few more i found


I also read on this BBC webpage that the falling ice crystals that could be to blame could come from the exhausts of passing aircraft. That would make sense because there are a lot of planes fly over



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 02:56 PM by madhatter


www.cyberspaceorbit.com...

Here's a link to what I was thinking of, if you go down about 3/4 of
tha page, where it says "Florida Gets Pulsed" you'll see what I mean.



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 03:24 PM by nibiru


Is there anywhere on the net where i can get those radar maps for London?



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 03:31 PM by madhatter




Is there anywhere on the net where i can get those radar maps for London?



I'm assuming your talking about the map links that I just posted, and no
I can't find any at the moment, but Google is your Friend as they say



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 05:51 PM by mayajeet


Try having a look at this website on earthquake predictions from cloud formations. I don't know if this type of cloud formation is an earthquake precursor, but you can have a look and see if it gets listed there.

quake.exit.com...



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 05:55 PM by mayajeet


Sorry, me again, still trying to find out how to use this program.


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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 10:09 PM by gandolfo


Looking at the cloud formation it would have to be at the lower end of strange cloud formations. The rainbow colouration could be due to water or ice particles and the sharply defined area due to temperature variations which would be common in an area with micro -climates.

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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 10:12 PM by yekway


Great cant wait to hear more on this!

Laterz



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reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 11:14 PM by HowardRoark


antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov...

Rare, but not unusual.



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reply posted on 19-12-2004 @ 03:44 AM by E_T



Originally posted by HowardRoark
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov...
That cloud "inside" hole is definitely virga.


I took this photo at spring 2003. There's little signs of more turbulence in two a'clock from hole, so I think that might give hint about direction light route.
Also these holes seems to be ellipses which would be reasonable. Aircraft causes like cylinder of turbulent air, when plane (layer of humid air) cuts it in other angle than straight result is ellipse.
external image


Here's more of these phenomenons what aircrafts cause to clouds.
www.weather-photography.com...

A distrail, short for dissipation trail, forms when an aircraft flies through a supercooled cloud. The cloud freezes due to the disturbing airflow created by the aircraft, as well as by the addition of plenty of freezing nuclei due to the aircraft's exhaust gases. Altocumulus is usually either frozen or supercooled and can show distrails. They are uncommon, especially the clear distrails. Distrails are usually not very long, since they usually show in altocumulus which is not at a cruising altitude of the aircraft (i.e. the aircraft is either descending or ascending through the cloud). In some cases a distrail may transform into a cloud hole: a large elliptical hole in altocumulus with virga in the middle.



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