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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: Greathouse
Wouldn't you think the Ukraine is due compensation instead of the gas bill?
If any, the West should pay for the damage it has done to Eastern Ukraine.
So Russia should pay and pay and pay and pay for all the shenanigans of the West ?
It pays more than enough for it, truck load after truck humanitarian aid it`s already shipping to Eastern Ukraine.
Here another fine example of it...
Russia finds $21.7bn mistake in Yukos case
TextRussia is challenging the payout on the grounds that the court used one-sided methodology, and that the arbitrators didn’t give the defendant (the Russian state) an opportunity to present counter-arguments, according to Russian business daily RBC. The daily reviewed the Yukos appeal presented on Friday, and published its findings on Monday.
You're really funny guy you know that ?
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: Greathouse
Russia didn`t wanted all the crap that has happened in the Ukraine...
Proof : Russia didn`t want to face the decision of having to intervene
You're really funny guy you know that ?
I`m glad at least you find me funny, most in the anti-Putin camp hate me.
Well america doesn't want all the crap that is going to happen in Cuba....but we have a base there, and some English speaking population....so we are just going to take it all over....not a big deal right?
originally posted by: noeltrotsky
originally posted by: anticitizen
so what do the rebels try to achieve?
do they want a certain part of ukraine to be russian then i'm fine with it.
ukraine will have no gain from that corner of their country anyway in the near future.
but if the rebels goal is to make whole ukraine a part of russia then we have a serious problem.
That's funny! So it's ok to carve off Crimea and some land the size of Texas from Ukraine, but not more! Ok, I'm calling the Canadian government right now. The new rules allow us to carve off Alaska without any interference so we'll do that. I'm sure the Russian will back that, we'll just give them more of the Arctic.
Sounds crazy when your logic gets applied around the world doesn't it? I hope it does at least!
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
Russia didn`t wanted all the crap that has happened in the Ukraine...
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Greathouse
You'd realise if you paid attention that when someone in debt fails to pay the debt collectors come to retrieve what's owed...
And the amount that Ukraine owes to Gazprom alone...
LoL...
That amount would put people high up on the Forbes List!
TextWhen Russia seized Crimea in March, it acquired not just the Crimean landmass but also a maritime zone more than three times its size with the rights to underwater resources potentially worth trillions of dollars. Russia portrayed the takeover as reclamation of its rightful territory, drawing no attention to the oil and gas rush that had recently been heating up in the Black Sea. But the move also extended Russia’s maritime boundaries, quietly giving Russia dominion over vast oil and gas reserves while dealing a crippling blow to Ukraine’s hopes for energy independence.
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
Maybe some actual news about what`s happening instead of the usual Kiev/NATO/Kerry/Harper/Cameron crap.
DPR leader signs plan of withdrawal of heavy weapons from line of contact
DPR: battles in Donbass have ended along the whole front line
So it seems the whole warmongering about the Separatists going to attack Mariupol is nothing more as some volunteers battalions who are not under control of Kiev doing still some provocations.
But there`s has to be a reason of course for more sanctions...
Ukraine crisis: US to consider new Russia sanctions
Anyone still thinking this isn`t all about Russia and how to hurt Russia as much as can be done...
Excellent. They should hand back Crimea then.
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
So they should hand over Crimea to the Western Oligarchs against the will of the people ?
Russia just completely disregarded the ceasefire for the past several days bombing the hell out of a little town killing almost 200 people but NOW you want to give them credit for not attacking Mariupol!!!
originally posted by: noeltrotsky
Of course we all know it will be disregarded as propaganda but it's the same Soviet playbook from Afghanistan.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Greathouse
That's potentially... With a P!
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: infinityorder
Well america doesn't want all the crap that is going to happen in Cuba....but we have a base there, and some English speaking population....so we are just going to take it all over....not a big deal right?
And how exactly did America react in `63 ?
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: paraphi
You ignore Crimea was an internationally recognized autonomous republic so it could decide for themselves, and I also showed in this thread that the referendum was right and will be the same if held again.
But why stick to the facts when made up stuff is much nicer to live by.