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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: PizzaAnyday505
How to, in 3 seconds, refute ignorant anti vaxxer BS..
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originally posted by: Pardon?
This?
www.bloomberg.com...
You mean the samples from Baxter which were made into vaccines and then tested?
The one for labs only and not for human use?
It's a little bit different from sending vaccines out for distribution isn't it?
Don't use hyperbole, it just weakens your argument.
originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: deadeyedick
Hi Dick.
So why would Pharma do that? they don't want us to die...then they wouldn't have anyone to sell too.
Or is it you wanting to do that?.
Cya Dick.
Recently unearthed documents show that the drug company Bayer sold millions of dollars worth of an injectable blood-clotting medicine -- Factor VIII concentrate, intended for hemophiliacs -- to Asian, Latin American, and some European countries in the mid-1980s, although they knew that it was tainted with AIDS.
As many as 36 children were reported to have died excruciating deaths last night after receiving tainted measles vaccines under a UN-sponsored programme in the rebel-held north of Syria.
More than 98 million Americans received one or more doses of polio vaccine from 1955 to 1963 when a proportion of vaccine was contaminated with SV40; it has been estimated that 10–30 million Americans could have received an SV40 contaminated dose of vaccine.
As reported to ECDC by Belgian authorities, on 2 September 2014, following a human error, 45 litres of concentrated live polio virus solution were released into the environment by the pharmaceutical company, GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), in Rixensart city, Belgium.
Baxter flu vaccines contaminated with H5N1 (the human form of avian flu) were received by labs in the Czech Republic, Germany and Slovenia. Initially, Baxter refused to reveal how the vaccines were contaminated with H5N1, invoking “trade secrets.” After increased pressure, they then claimed that pure H5N1 batches were sent by accident.
originally posted by: Philippines
I do think vaccines work, and they are effective (though we never know the exact efficacy rate, or if it works at all without lab tests.) So in a way they are a gamble, along with the potential damaging side effects.
I do not agree with injection-based vaccines. They completely bypass the body's natural immune system which can cause some very bad side effects as the body goes into a panic dealing with the foreign invasion of adjuvants, attenuated virii, and whatever else is in the suspension.
It makes me wonder if the people totally against vaccines would be more open if the vaccine were oral pills or aerosol based instead of injection.
originally posted by: Pardon?
originally posted by: Philippines
I do think vaccines work, and they are effective (though we never know the exact efficacy rate, or if it works at all without lab tests.) So in a way they are a gamble, along with the potential damaging side effects.
I do not agree with injection-based vaccines. They completely bypass the body's natural immune system which can cause some very bad side effects as the body goes into a panic dealing with the foreign invasion of adjuvants, attenuated virii, and whatever else is in the suspension.
It makes me wonder if the people totally against vaccines would be more open if the vaccine were oral pills or aerosol based instead of injection.
Can you explain how injections "completely bypass the body's natural immune system" please?
Before that, have you ever had a cut or a scratch?
Think about it.
I’m an Anti-Braker
Guys, I wanted to let you know about a personal decision I recently made. I don’t really feel like discussing it, but I want to put my position out there. Please be respectful. This is a really long post, but please read the whole thing.
I’m taking the brakes off my car. This isn’t a rash decision, so please listen up.
A few weeks ago I saw a car accident - two people went through an intersection at the same time. Both slammed on their brakes at the same time and collided. Fortunately no one was seriously injured.
But then it occurred to me - if they had just gone through the intersection, they wouldn’t have collided. The brakes CAUSED the accident!
So, I decided to do my own research and what I found was *staggering*: Hundreds of people every year are seriously injured by unnecessary braking. One time, I was driving in the snow and I just lightly tapped my brakes and it caused my car to COMPLETELY LOSE CONTROL. My brakes could have very easily gotten me killed. Even more astoundingly is how often brake pads will warp and distort rotors, causing bumpy rides and squeaky wheels.
And you know what? I also found that decades ago brakes weren’t even used! People would control their vehicle’s speed with downshifting and engine braking. Maybe it’s just coincidence, but back when engine braking was used there were almost no automotive fatalities. There were NEVER brake caused car accidents.
After doing some more digging, I found a nefarious plot - Mechanics: The very people who we trust to work on and care for our cars - get PAID to install and change brakes! You might THINK they care about our safety, or our cars - but they’re just in it for the $49.99 brake pad installations.
So I talked to my Mechanic about taking the brakes off my car and I was disgusted by how poorly he treated me. He accused me of being ignorant, when I was the one that looked up how much rotational torque brakes can put on your rotors. He didn’t even know how much torque a rotor can take before being warped!!! He said “rotors are designed to be compressed, that it isn’t actually a problem” just completely dismissing me.
Then he had the NERVE to say that my personal choice had consequences, that I would affect everyone around me. Well I’ve had it with him, I’m looking for a new mechanic. The problem is that so many mechanics are bought and paid by the automotive industry that ALL of them are insistent about my car having brakes. Most of them won’t even look at my car for other reasons, saying that a brakeless car could cause damage to their shop and other cars. What a bunch of bull#, they just don’t like those who believe in alternative braking techniques.
Now of course big government is getting involved, saying that I *MUST* have brakes. That this isn’t just about me, and that I could hurt people. What happened to personal freedom? What happened to liberty?
So all I’m saying is, do your research. Don’t just listen to the NTSB and big automotive. I made a personal decision for my family, we just said no to brakes. We’ll be using natural remedies like Gravity, and putting our feet on the ground to stop. After all, if that was good enough for me when I was on my bike as a kid, it’s good enough for my children in my car.
Please keep the comments respectful!
Legal Disclaimer: I am not a mechanic and should not be considered a valid source of information for automotive inquiries.
originally posted by: boymonkey74
But you will risk your kid with many avoidable illnesses.
One simple question has vaccines saved millions of people yes or no?.
originally posted by: boymonkey74
I have explained twice in the thread why autism appears to be on the rjse but you have ignored it.
So again refute my points.
originally posted by: PizzaAnyday505
Do you know what 1 in 70-80 ending up with Autism means
Do you know how many people world wide that is