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I think it`s telling there are Dutch 6 experts who all say we can`t rule out the possibility it was a fighter who brought it down.
Ukrainian officials say. They say the An-26 plane was hit at an altitude of 6,500m (21,325ft).
Shoulder-fired SAMs generally have a target detection range of about 10 km (6 mi) and an engagement range of about 6 km (4 mi), so aircraft flying at 6,100 metres (20,000 ft) or higher are relatively safe.
originally posted by: maghun
a reply to: AvoidBadCompany
Could the U.S have anything to do with the downing of MH17 ??
Do not even think about it!
The 10-day NATO exercise code named «BREEZE 2014» has ended in Black Sea. The exercise, which included the use of electronic warfare and electronic intelligence aircraft such as the Boeing EA-18G Growler and the Boeing E3 Sentry Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS), coincided with the shootdown of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 in eastern Ukraine, some 40 miles from the Russian border. NATO ships and aircraft had the Donetsk and Luhansk regions under total radar and electronic surveillance.
The U.S. Army has revealed that the 10-day exercise involved «commercial traffic monitoring». Because of the sophistication of the electronic warfare and intelligence used during SEA BREEZE, it can be assumed that commercial traffic monitoring included monitoring the track of MH-17
Too bad there are a lot of assumptions made in that article that don't have much to do with reality.
originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: peck420
I have to ask, why are you guys so dead set sure the rebels fired the BUK (if it was a BUK) when the Ukraine military apparently had 3 BUKs also in range of MH17? Seems to me it could've just as likely been them.
Because the rebels claimed - initially - that they done it
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: tommyjo
Have you taken the time to read the PDF ?
The draft preliminary report has been sent to the Accredited Representatives of the States that participate in the investigation, Malaysia, Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom, the Unites States of America and Austrailia for review. All Accredited Representatives have sent a reaction. The Dutch Safety Board assessed the provided suggestion and
amended the report where appropriate.
The main issue I challenge in the report is the out-of-range part. The intercept point is set way too far out, and presumes 20-30 km due east flight afterwards. Rather, considering the winds (NNW it seems) it came apart right in the middle of the debris field, and was hit I think shortly before.