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Have you read the expert analysis PDF and watched the picture I provided by the Onderzoeksraad Voor Veiligheid (that`s the official authority for investigation after big Dutch disasters, the ones who are doing the MH17 investigation)?
How reliable are those pictures and videos? For instance, something is certainly wrong with the famous video of a Buk driven through Luhansk. On July 19, SBU (Security Service of Ukraine) presented that video as part of its “compelling evidence” of Russia’s involvement in the downing of MH17: A screenshot from the video was presented at the briefing of SBU’s official Vitaly Naida and in SBU’s report on its website. But a few days later SBU deleted that screenshot from its July 19 report. The report (the screenshot is absent!):
Naida’s briefing of July 19 is seen in the following Euronews coverage; the briefing begins at 0:54 sec (the screenshot is present):
One of numerous reports on Naida’s presentation of July 19:
Thus, on July 19 the screenshot of the video was a key part of SBU’s evidence against Russia – Buk without one missile. A few days later SBU withdrew that “key evidence”. Conclusion: Something was wrong with the video.
In my Nov 10 comment I forgot to mention that SBU deleted two “evidence” items from its July 19 report. One is the screenshot of the video of a Buk with one missile missing and another is the photo of a Buk at night. In the SBU original report, both had the legend “Buk-M1 heading to the border of Ukraine with the RF”. In the “updated” report, there is neither the screenshot, nor the picture of a Buk at night. The picture was withdrawn for an apparent reason: it was a photo taken in March, 2014. When SBU realized that its employees used an old photo, it was deleted – as well as the screenshot of the video “with one missile missing”. Thus, the video was a fake, too?
So can you show proof that the Ukraine gov't is lying because your links certainly don't prove your assertions.
originally posted by: maghun
a reply to: tsurfer2000h
The secret service behaviour is more than telling... Fake video, fake call interception (with wrong and nonexistent places) uploaded before the false flag - what can I think?
The good example of such fact is that some mass media showed transportation of the Buk-M1 missile system from Ukrainian to Russian territory.We can clearly see that its frame-up. These pictures were made in the city of Krasnoarmeisk that is confirmed by a banner situated close to the road. This banner has an address of the car shop situated at the Dnepropetrovskaya, 34. Since May 11 the Krasnoarmeysk city is under control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
The separatists go online right after MH17 was downed claiming they shot down a plane. However since it was on social media it must be disregarded.
originally posted by: MarkJS
THIS JUST IN : New radar data indicates other jets on MH17 course before crash
So much MSM fodder that they give us for consumption is fraught with half-truths, outright lies, and things left out of the story.
Jesus was right. He said in the last days, there will be wars and rumors of wars. Rumors my friend. With the best channels of communication known to man at our fingertips, the actual data we receive is still skewed. Skewed to the point where we have to take it with two or three grains of salt. Who the heck really knows the whole story?
Come soon, Lord Jesus! Or if you prefer: Maranatha!
Nikolay Kozitsyn confirm that it is him on the tapes