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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: NavyDoc
Well thanks, but ... you and I were talking specifically to each other about this particular subject ... so how does the 'broader picture' fit in with something I haven't stated?
A quick review of just eight of those leftist, tax-exempt activist groups demonstrates the IRS's hypocrisy. Americans United for Change Americans United for Change enjoys 501(c)4 tax-exempt status. The organization exists, according to its own website, “to amplify the progressive message--to contribute to a grass roots groundswell for progressive policies. Progressives need to redefine ‘common sense’--by reasserting the primacy of the traditional progressive values that resonate with most Americans.” The group spent $4.7 million in 2009 “redefining” common sense and, according to their IRS form 990, on “advocacy and education about public policy issues.” Americans United for Change directly engaged Republican senators facing reelection in 2008, running television advertisements against them. Naturally, no Democrat complained. Nor did the IRS revoke its 501(c) status. Ruckus Society The Ruckus Society (photo above) is part of the Occupy Movement--and donations to this 501(c)3 organization are tax deductible. The George Soros-funded organization’s purpose reads like a parody of the modern Left. The Ruckus Society provides environmental, human rights, and social justice organizers with the tools, training, and support needed to achieve their goals through the strategic use of creative, nonviolent direct action. Ruckus also evidently organizes criminal trespass: The Brass Liberation Orchestra accompanied a second round of the “I Will Survive…Capitalism” flashmob before leading the crowd of over 1,000 people onto the Bank of America, and deployed a giant balloon banner with our friends at [Rainforest Action Network] reading “Defend Human Dignity: Challenge Corporate Power”...The day of course culminated in the truly mass marches to the Port of Oakland to shut down all operations at the Ports for the night. Some reports say 50,000 people marched and danced the three miles to the ports from Camp, and it was truly an unforgettable experience, marching in a sea of thousands at sunset. None of this seems to attract any IRS attention. Ruckus's 2011 IRS Form 990 indicates that it has maintained undisturbed 501(c)3 status. The form states Ruckus “provides environmental, human rights, and social justice organizers with the tools, training and support needed to achieve their goals.” The Ruckus training offers the manual “Beautiful Trouble: A Toolbox for Revolution” and provides suggestions for direct action such as “take over intersections and use for community activities,” give “fake parking tickets on SUV’s,” “Occupy Bank Foreclosed Homes,” and “rip out rancher’s fences” to free livestock. Planning illegal acts is incompatible with 501(c)3 status. Ruckus is run by Megan Swoboda. Women’s Action for New Directions Women’s Action for New Directions (WAND) is another leftist organization funded by George Soros that engages in activity designed to transform politics and America. It dates back to the era when the KGB was funding anti-nuclear movements in the West, and was involved in the effort to block installation of Pershing II missiles in West Germany. After the Soviet Union collapsed, the organization continued to oppose America’s national defense.WAND enjoys 501(c)4 tax-exempt status. The organization also boasts a “Students Action Network for New Directions” that encourages leftist students “to become politically active, to vote, and to network with other WAND members.” Despite the overt political mission and anti-defense militancy, the 990 Forms submitted by WAND to the IRS whitewash their mission in one short sentence: "Empowering women to stop violence through the legislature." New World Foundation The New World Foundation, like so many others, uses the money from industrialists who built America to help reduce America. Cyrus McCormick’s daughter formed the NWF to help transform the world, starting with America. The foundation enjoys 501(c)3 tax exempt status and exists, according to its IRS Form 990, to support “community activists across America and around the world.” The IRS Form 990 also states that the NWF seek to “build stronger alliances for social justice, environmental justice...while encouraging democratic participation to achieve real and lasting [sic].” The form details the mission of “mobilizing of the least enfranchised in working class and people of color communities.” In 2010, NWF spent over $15 million. It funnels money to a variety of activist leftist groups like the Coal River Mountain Watch, Colorado Progressive Action and National Peoples Action. Fierce Fierce is a New York-based organization that employs the Saul Alinsky organizing model toward activist gay issues. Its website unapologetically proclaims that it is “building the leadership and power of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer (LGBTQ) youth of color,” and “We develop politically conscious leaders.” Looking toward the future, as always, “FIERCE is dedicated to cultivating the next generation of social justice movement leaders who are dedicated to ending all forms of oppression.” This unapologetic political mission is also included in the IRS Form 990 submitted by Fierce, so it should not surprise the IRS. Fierce also provides a chart showing its organizing model is dedicated first to “Build our Power,” then “Exercise our Power,” and finally “Sustain our Power.” Fierce! has 501(c)3 status, making contributions to the overtly political organization tax deductible. Last tax year it spent $529,713 on stipends for activists, travel and other expenses. Black Alliance for Just Immigration The Black Alliance for Just Immigration enjoys 501(c)3 status. The organization “advocates for administrative changes to visa, detention and deportation regulations” according to the IRS Form 990 it filed with the IRS. For whom does it advocate these changes? The Black Alliance webpage states: Historically and currently, U.S. immigration policy has been infused with racism, enforcing unequal and punitive standards for immigrants of color. African Americans, with our history of being economically exploited, marginalized and discriminated against, have much in common with people of color who migrate to the United States, documented and undocumented. Executive Director Gerald Lenoir told me by telephone that the IRS has never questioned the tax status of the organization. After providing this information, Mr. Lenoir also asked: “is Breitbart a progressive news publication?” Brennan Center for Justice Few organizations have worn nonpartisan sheep’s clothing while behaving like a partisan wolf better than the Brennan Center for Justice. Enjoying 501(c)3 status, the Brennan Center’s stated mission on its IRS Form 990 barely scratches the surface. They merely “focus on fundamental issues of democracy and justice,” they claim. The Brennan Center also told the IRS that it is engaged in “the study and solving of intractable problems of social justice and implementing those solutions by coordinating strategies.” What Brennan didn’t tell the IRS was that those “coordinating strategies” involved bare-knuckle attacks on election integrity laws around the country. The IRS probably doesn’t know that Brennan is hip deep in the effort to derail public policies such as photo voter identification laws. Both the effort and the results of the effort are bathed in politics. Brennan’s executive director Michael Waldman isn’t above publishing outright falsehoods or phony social science data about election integrity measures in order to advance the group's agenda and enable voter fraud. Voto Latino Voto Latino is dedicated to mobilizing Hispanic voters into powerful political coalitions. It also enjoys 501(c)3tax exempt status. The group holds an annual “Power Summit.” The April 2013 Power Summit included panels entitled “Activism Everyday--I’m Hustling,” “We Voted, Now What?,” “How to Run for Office,” and “Field Operations for Beginners.” Voto Latino also has a webpage dedicated to the 2012 Democratic National Convention (click while it still exists). Some on the left are defending the IRS attacks on the Tea Party by falsely claiming the Tea Party is a political organization. These charges sound like projection when considering the descriptions of Voto Latino on itsown webpage: “We firmly believe that the quality of our future depends on our ability to mobilize and vote....Texas and Florida, two states with the largest Latino populations, passed restrictive voting laws that intimidate people from going to the polls. There's never been a more pivotal time for us to flex our collective power and move our country forward. Despite our economic difficulties and educational needs, Latinos profoundly believe in America....The quality of our future depends on our ability to mobilize today.” When contacted, a representative at Voto Latino told me its IRS 501(c)3 tax status had never been challenged. Voto Latino receives money from the Soros-affiliated Open Society Foundations. These are a mere eight groups dedicated to activist political outcomes. Many, many more exist. Under the law, anyone can demand a copy of the IRS 990 form filed by a tax-exempt organization. All you need to do is pick up the phone and call whatever leftist organization you wish and demand its “IRS 990 form.” If they don’t send it, call the IRS.
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Logarock
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Hefficide
Has politics become the new "church"?
Modern day political theory is the political church. Made and funded by a people that are no longer "jealous for their rights". Their priests are the new robber barons, their prophets prophesy for gold and their seminaries dot the land like a fast food chain that produced debt and ignorance tossed up from the bowels of its visionaries.
Wow. That had almost a C. S. Lewis ring to it.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
And that is a valid point. Some of my atheist brethren and sisteren have really just replaced their former religion with a new religion of statist politically correctism with a strict ideology, a cannon of beliefs and positions you MUST hold, and an intolerance of views that go outside that strict cannon.
Note that a single direct question of whether or not leftist politically active groups should also lose their taxpayer exempt status for doing the same thing was dodged every single time. Not a single personal opinion was given. Certainly the tax code was quoted multiple times, but not a single opinion was given. I wonder what said people will be saying the next time we discuss a corporation using the tax code to hide money offshore given this. Will they be consistent or will they opine that this "loophole" should be stripped from corporations?
I'll give an opinion: Any organization with 501(3)(C) tax exempt status that engages in political activities should lose its tax exempt status, period.
You are misusing the word religion and making it meaningless. Religion is the performance of ritual on behalf of or in obeyance to a supernatural deity or deities. Ascribing other definitions to it makes the word meaningless. Besides, we're talking about churches not religion, per se.
That would include Planned Parenthood, although they have a (4)(c) arm as a loophole. You willing to apply the same standard? The unions?
originally posted by: infolurker
The best way to ensure that no one will read a long-winded rant is to post it in a thousand-word block of print with no paragraphs. Thank you for doing so.
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Hefficide
Has politics become the new "church"?
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: infolurker
The best way to ensure that no one will read a long-winded rant is to post it in a thousand-word block of print with no paragraphs. Thank you for doing so.
There have been a lot of positions bantered about. Yours in particular would be?
Romans 13:
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended.
4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing.
7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: beezzer
Hi Beez,
But I see many who would replace religion with government.
Can you explain, for me, the difference between governance and religion?
originally posted by: beezzer
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: beezzer
Government and religion were the same thing for most of human history.
There certainly are many who want to recombine the two; but that is anathematic to the American way.
I agree.
But I see many who would replace religion with government.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: beezzer
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: beezzer
Government and religion were the same thing for most of human history.
There certainly are many who want to recombine the two; but that is anathematic to the American way.
I agree.
But I see many who would replace religion with government.
I don't disagree.
But I see many who would replace government with religion.
That doesn't make me sleep any better at night; how about you?
Religion is the formal structure of faith. It provides a moral foundation for society based on the instruction of the religious focus.
Government (governance) is the formation of a series of rules/laws based upon a geographical group of individuals.
originally posted by: windword
Since many faiths can, and should be able to live peacefully within geographical boundaries, and, government should protect all individual rights within the confines of it's governance, not just the rights of certain faiths, would you agree that government should take no sides, whatsoever, when it comes to faith?
originally posted by: Chronogoblin
originally posted by: SomePeople
Why the hell shouldn't it be about the money?
...I almost have no words. I want to rant, and rave, and punch you in the face for saying that. If I, or anyone else in this World has to explain it to you, then you, Sir/Madam, have FAILED as a human being.