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Jim Foley beheading a Fake?

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posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: b14warrior
a reply to: Remedylane


originally posted by: Remedylane

However, the biggest things to me were the demanor of Foley, and the English sounding dude. If you closed your eyes and listened to the English/ISIS dudes speech, it sounds like it could be right out of a movie. That is just my opinion. Again, I can't say for sure either way.


The 'English sounding dude' doesn't raise any suspicions for me and I'm not sure why it should for anybody else. The British government have estimated that there are over 500 British citizens in Syria and Iraq fighting a 'Jihad'. It has been widely reported in the news here that MI5 are trying to identify the man.

He just sounds like a regular dude from the London or south east of England.

It is suspected that he was picked for the video for shock value. 'OMG it's an English guy too!'


Him being english doesn't raise my suspicions. Im well aware about British citizens fighting a Jihad. It is just his demeanor and the way he reads it. It seems very movie like to me.




posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 07:30 PM
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Not that a mod is going to answer. But why was this moved to skunk works? Are 9/11 post moved to skunk works? If so, okay. But it seems this subject is a prime example of a general conspiracy for discussion.

AAC



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 07:57 PM
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as i stated in the therad about isis beheading (the other thread) FFFFAAAAKKKEEEE if you beleive its real your a dumbass, america is secret allies with the ilamic state and gihad while to everyones face(the world) we are allies with israel we are a country of indepenant mercanaries and buissnessmen and slaves a very dirty double backstabbing one at that and we are good at it we = (gouvernment) we are not a republic nation but instead a capitalistic socialist monarchy down to monarchy even falling in the way of blood brothers of occultist beleifs, chew on that for a while
"SYMBOLIC"



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 08:38 PM
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a reply to: Denoli


originally posted by: Denoli

originally posted by: flammadraco

originally posted by: Denoli
Killer is from West Yorkshire judging by accent . Don't need to be a linguistic expert !


Nope, "John" (jihadist) is from East London and the UK police are closing in on who he really is.

Check out the UKs front pages for tomorrow www.bbc.co.uk...

West Yorkshire? I'm a Londoner and can easily tell his accent is from the East End, (Tower Hamlets, Mile End etc).

Are you a UK member?


I'm From East Yorkshire , I just think the voice has been slightly tweaked but anyways we will find out soon enough .but I call Sheffield at 80%


Sounds 100% south east to me.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: flammadraco

originally posted by: Denoli
Killer is from West Yorkshire judging by accent . Don't need to be a linguistic expert !


Nope, "John" (jihadist) is from East London and the UK police are closing in on who he really is.

Check out the UKs front pages for tomorrow www.bbc.co.uk...

West Yorkshire? I'm a Londoner and can easily tell his accent is from the East End, (Tower Hamlets, Mile End etc).

Are you a UK member?


interesting



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: Remedylane

His demeanour to me seems the same as many other videos of jihadists/mujahideen seem. They are, after all carefully scripted.

My thoughts regarding the British man in the video is that he was ONLY chosen as he was British, he is wooden and unnatural in front of the camera as some people are.
I have doubts that he carried out the actual killing too.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 09:10 PM
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suggested reading.

"What is psychosis? What causes psychotic symptoms?"

www.medicalnewstoday.com...


Or,,


"American Psychosis: What happens to a society that cannot distinguish between reality and illusion?…"

www.projectworldawareness.com...

seems to be spreading,,



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 09:13 PM
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originally posted by: b14warrior
a reply to: Remedylane

His demeanour to me seems the same as many other videos of jihadists/mujahideen seem. They are, after all carefully scripted.

My thoughts regarding the British man in the video is that he was ONLY chosen as he was British, he is wooden and unnatural in front of the camera as some people are.
I have doubts that he carried out the actual killing too.


I don't think im explaining how it comes across to me. I realize they are all scripted. Most of the time the vids ive seen the person will be reading from a paper script. There is just something different about this video. Im still unsure.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 09:19 PM
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Can anyone confirm for sure that there is an unedited version out there? I find it really strange that uk gov threatened people with action if they wish to watch it for themselves (but media can, ha ha) we are being played big time folks.

I get the feeling they (gov) did'nt get what they wanted after the woolwich soldier beheading so they are trying again to bring about civil war on the streets

The british people did'nt ask for masses of people who are opposed to our values dumped on our shores so one can only come to the conclusion that the reason is pretty sinister.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 09:23 PM
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Gotta love the gitmo orange jump suit...



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

I've been waiting/looking for this thread. I watched the video and I thought many of the same things.

Why was it up on YouTube so long? I don't believe that could have been sneaked onto YouTube and kept up for so long. No way the NSA, or whatever alphabet agency, would allow that without having okayed it for public consumption, in some kind of psy-op, in my opinion.

Why was the sound so perfect? I thought the guy with the English accent was a translator's voice that had been dubbed over the ISIS guy's voice, but there is no sound difference between James Foley and the ISIS guy with the English accent, no wind or background noise either. It sounds like the sound track was laid down later in a sound studio.

Sorry if someone already pointed those things out, I haven't read the entire thread yet. Going back to read it now.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: highjinxhostage

There is no unedited version. In fact, videos and stills are rapidly being removed from the internet. It is joe obvious that James foley was not killed in the video as there was zero blood on the hand of the executioner when he held up the other prisoner at the end.

My question, was there ever an uncensored picture of James foley where his head was on his body? I have searched for hours and have noticed two things, there is not one image anywhere that is not blurred where he is dead on ground, and also there is a strong push to delete what was already published from record.

AAC



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 09:51 PM
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I agree this video seems off. I also noticed one major thing missing. Out of all the other beheading videos; as soon as they start cutting, there are always chants of 'Allah Hu Akbar'. In this video it was silent, the infamous chants of allah hu akbar wasn't even heard.
edit on 20-8-2014 by MaReKoKa because: Mispelling



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 10:07 PM
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apparently you arent alone some experts believe that parts of the video were acted also:

www.theaustralian.com.au...#
the killing may have happened but not as was shown in the video perhaps.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

cheers for the reply, i'm on someone else's pc at the moment so not going to go looking at sensitive stuff atm.
Its the second time there has been a british based muslim beheading someone relatively recently so it all seems a bit suspect to me.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 10:20 PM
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I watched people take their last breath and die! Im skeptical because that head laying on the body would look a lot worse I.e the blood would not be so frank red. The minute blood is exposed to oxygen it turns color. Also his extremities look like a perfectly normal color of a living body. Everyone I've seen die in person their skin takes on a bluish/yellowish hue after the blood stops flowing.

I don't know I'm not saying it's fake but it's a weird video for sure.

Why wouldn't Foley try to wiggle and squirm once he realized its for real? Nick Berg let out a horrific scream! Foley not a peep?????



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: Remedylane

Actually they released an hour long hi def hour long video of heir assassinations in Iraq.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 11:45 PM
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originally posted by: GreenMtnBoys
Why wouldn't Foley try to wiggle and squirm once he realized its for real? Nick Berg let out a horrific scream! Foley not a peep?????


Drugged?



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 02:05 AM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
I haven't seen the video, but if it is a fake, what a rotten thing to do.


Didnt they also fake an Osma Bin Laden video back in the day where he supposedly planned 9/11? I cant believe the fakery still works in this day and age. Worst part is they arent even trying to hide their fakery anymore. Instead, they blatantly lie and showe it into our faces and everyone fkn believes it.
edit on 21-8-2014 by Jungian because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 02:10 AM
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4. Murderer has educated sounding English accent.


Sorry to nit pick at this, but depending on your definition of "educated" this is wrong. I'm not putting myself out there as upper class or even highly educated but his voice goes from accent to accent, east London to some sort of weird brummy accent. The inflection in his voice that keeps popping up reminds me of many welfare scroungers around. White Black Brown Green Blue after a while in that sort of environment they bastardize the English language to the point it makes me want to kiss a wall with a run up.

Not saying that this video is real or fake etc but something about the OP number 4 really hit a nerve with me, I must just be a stuck up oik!




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