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originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: NoRulesAllowed
The idea that from billions of stars with x-billions of planets life evolved only here...is rather absurd.
Well, there are singular things in the universe.(1) And since we have no idea how non-living material on Earth magically formed itself into something with a point-of-view, we really can't say that the more planets we have the better odds we have of something similar happening.(2) So far, the hard evidence indicates that we are the only game in town.(3) That could change tomorrow. Or not.
I do "believe" that life exists out there but there is no way to determine likeliness. I like to keep mathematical probability separate from beliefs. It comes in handy if you have a gambling problem.
originally posted by: bottleslingguy
a reply to: ZetaRediculian
that's because the real evidence is past your ability to perceive or think of it
originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: krash661
according to whom ?
if we are staying on topic, main stream science. Other "evidence" is subjective.
I would rather not.
look into panspermia.
the first comment is incorrect
it was a joke
as for the second comment,
exactly.
no effort to actually look into what is being the best evidence to this incorrect claim of this poster.
this speaks volumes
originally posted by: bottleslingguy
a reply to: Ectoplasm8
how in the world can you say something is extremely rare as if we know all the examples? considering the amount of Earthlike planets out there I'd say it is highly likely there are at least several thousand distinct species of sentient beings. The universe is most likely teeming with it.
originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
We still have zero absolute evidence that intelligent life exists or has visited Earth.
originally posted by: bottleslingguy
a reply to: ZetaRediculian
well before you believe something you have to perceive it don't you?
you guys can't perceive it because you are unable.
cling to your linear ways, and believe what you believe. don't worry about it.
originally posted by: krash661
originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: bottleslingguy
when every sample we have contains no evidence of life outside our planet?
according to whom ?
also,
look into panspermia.
originally posted by: krash661
a reply to: Harte
i think ,at least, the
last five pages is
nothing but incorrect data/information.
originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
originally posted by: krash661
a reply to: Harte
i think ,at least, the
last five pages is
nothing but incorrect data/information.
I am not really good at guessing. Please share your knowledge. We are all here to learn.
The Drake equation that you mentioned was discussed in detail already. Its historically not based on real numbers. Panspermia is a theory that, as far as I know, has not been proven and the evidence for it is inconclusive at best.
So we are still stuck with zeros. Almost, seems like, assumptions, and possibility don't do much to change a zero to a one.
So what ya got?
what you think you know is incorrect
simple.
i have read parts of this topic,
it's the usual focused , lack of understanding/knowledge arguing nonsense.
i'm not going to sit here and explain, when no one is seriously interested in learning,
but interested in arguing only.
and it's always from want to be intellects and/or scientists.
same nonsense on this site , like all other physics/science/fringe forums/sites.
originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
originally posted by: bottleslingguy
a reply to: ZetaRediculian
well before you believe something you have to perceive it don't you?
Not necessarily. People believe in god for example.
you guys can't perceive it because you are unable.
what "guys" and honestly how in the world do you know what I do or don't perceive?
cling to your linear ways, and believe what you believe. don't worry about it.
Why does it bother you guys so much?