funny media contradiction: Arabs are the only semites in town.

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funny media contradiction: Arabs are the only semites in town.

the zionist controlled media just announced that Anti semitic demonstrations by Arabs around the world are increasing.

The funny thing current world jewery had been proven by scientific DNA studies to be not related to Abraham or the Ancient Semites (Haplogroup J1)

Arabs are the only Semites on this earth (even if a person is j1 in Mars then he is Arab).

To call the Arabs anyisemites in most sickening

originally posted by: adnanmuf

Anti-Semitic violence increases globally | NR

Anti-Semitic violence has increased around the world. CNN's Isa Soares reports

funny media contradiction: Arabs are the only semites in town.

the zionist controlled media just announced that Anti semitic demonstrations by Arabs around the world are increasing.

The funny thing current world jewery had been proven by scientific DNA studies to be not related to Abraham or the Ancient Semites (Haplogroup J1)

Arabs are the only Semites on this earth (even if a person is j1 in Mars then he is Arab).

To call the Arabs anyisemites in most sickening

That's funny you love to lie since in your other post where you claim Ashkenazi Jews have a Khazar origin I showed you the DNA proof they do not, and are in fact, from the Levant, and are Semitic in origin.

Keep lying, ATS will believe it because like you they love to hate.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

the semites were only J1 haplogroup. It is the only haplogroup that is semite. Jews have 10% of J1 that is less than Armenians (indo Europpeans ) who have 20% J1 (from Arabs of course), so the 10% J1 in Jews could be from convert Arabs (like Yemeni jews who are third level citizens in Israel anyway).

10% of J1 semitic ancestry is not a claim to be called semites.

A Mozaic of Nations : Jews History, DNA study

originally posted by: adnanmuf
the semites were only J1 haplogroup. It is the only haplogroup that is semite. Jews have 10% of J1 that is less than Armenians (indo Europpeans ) who have 20% J1 (from Arabs of course), so the 10% J1 in Jews could be from convert Arabs (like Yemeni jews who are third level citizens in Israel anyway).

10% of J1 semitic ancestry is not a claim to be called semites.

A Mozaic of Nations : Jews History, DNA study

Maybe you should read it again.

Not only did the genetic researchers corroborate the oral history of an ancient Jewish priestly caste, but they also confirmed the genetic link between both Sephardic and Ashkenazi populations, indicating that before the two populations separated, those who shared the CMH also shared common Israelite ancestry.

DNA research has also revealed significant genetic links between Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jewish populations, despite their separation for generations. With the Cohanim study, researchers found a clear genetic connection between the Jewish priests and a shared Israelite ancestor from the past. Additional genetic results suggest that the Ashkenazim can trace at least part of their ancestry to their Israelite forbearers.

However, J1 is the only haplogroup that researchers consider “Semitic” in origin because it is restricted almost completely to Middle Eastern populations, with a very low frequency in Italy and Greece as well (Semino et al. 2004). The group’s origins are thought to be in the southern Levant. Its presence among contemporary Sephardic and Ashkenazi populations indicates the preservation of Israelite Semitic ancestry, despite their long settlement in Europe and North Africa.

48% of Ashkenazi Cohanim and 58% of Sephardic Cohanim have the J1 Cohen Modal Haplotype

Additionally, many other haplogroups among the Ashkenazim, and among the Cohanim in particular, appear to be of Israelite/Middle Eastern origin.

You have no clue what you are even reading. Do you think 100% of the Palestinians have the CMH J1?

originally posted by: adnanmuf
Jews have 10% of J1 that is less than Armenians (indo Europpeans ) who have 20% J1 (from Arabs of course), so the 10% J1 in Jews could be from convert Arabs (like Yemeni jews who are third level citizens in Israel anyway).

More lies. Armenians have 10-11% J1.
www.eupedia.com...

and I remember telling you before that you should use new studies not from 2004, since the whole DNA studies started in 1998.
this science is fast like a rocket and incremental.

the study you refer to was by Mr Hammer who overwritten it with his 2010 study.

also occam razor should be non expired, meaning you have to buy a new occamrazor to go a long with the new research.
in the mean time dont use your occamrazor but on your ... beard.

there was only one haplogroup in middle east J1 untill 500 AD it was J1. It was later that the age of migrations started.

comparing the current jewsih dna to current residents of Arab countries including Palestine does not prove current jews are from the Ancient Israelites since the Ancient Israelites and Arabs were both J1.

the same thing applies to Maternal DNA which in Ashkenazim jews is that of haplogroup K1 Katia of central asia which the blue eye mutation and milk intolerance started in her 5000 years ago in central asia separated from the middle east by the Caucasian mountains separating trhe Gog and Magog north of the caucasian mountains including the huns and Khazar and middle eastern populations by the Daryal Pass (Caspa mountain, the russian military road)

No Gog and Magog were not living as Israelites in time of Moses no mention of blue or green eyed mutants were mentioned in the bible or any other middle east population historians.

a reply to: adnanmuf

Ummm the study I was using is the most current, and is used in the research you just linked. The study YOU linked says I am right and you are wrong. I posted quotes from it. It says current day Jews have a Semitic origin. Some groups more than others.

Ashkenazi and Sephardic Cohanim have one of the highest rates of J1 in the world.

There are several more Haplotypes that are mostly found only in Jewish populations that simply have not been studied enough to talk about their origin, they have not been precluded from being Semitic in origin.

I would love for you to source that J1 was the ONLY Haplotype in the whole Middle East.

As always, you lie, and I am sure haters like you will lap it up. I quoted YOUR source, which says I am right and you are wrong. Enjoy.

Not going to lie, I'm not particularly fond of jews. But he is right. I used to beleive in the khazar theory but too many things don't add up.

The original steppe people were indo-iranian, and most remained that way. Some went back into europe, some mixed off into asia, then the actual turks mixed with mongolians. If khazars were left unfettered they would group closer to europe. If they mixed they would group closer with turks. Yet they stand out on their own now.

Secondly, despite picking up some europid outter astethics, modern jews resemble closely old depictions of jews. Everyone makes the jokes about their noses, but fail to realize that is a trait of semites. Facial phrenology is a far better racial gauge then skin, hair, and eye color. The odds of a seperate group looking soo similar would be uncanny.

I beleive they are the remnants of the original israelites.

since the ability to determine haplogroups in 2000 studying haplotypes only with out classifying them into haplogroups is like counting using beeds instead of computer.

Haplotypes could be found in different haplogroups as "haplotype covergance" which is random statistical erroe.
for example the Cohanim haplotype is found in J1 and J2 and Q (of central asia khazar Eskimo and native americans).

over 70% of Cohanim haplotype is random coincidence "Haplotype convergance"

Only Cohanim Modal Haplotype found in J1 haplogroup represents the Priestly sect (ancient cohanim)

Jewish Cohanim where Cohanim modal haplotype are a very small minority out of all jews. Cohanim are very rare among jews as they claim.

Cohanim modal haplotype ( of J1) is hardly existant in Jews outside of Cohanim, while it is 80% of Arabs. Aaron was only few hundred years separated from Abraham to change the haplotype so all children of Abraham should have the Cohanim haplotype (in J1 only).

Dienekes and anatoly a scientists have proven jewish Hammer and Nebel manipulations of the studies that were made long ago before 2004.

Also in a study there are three parts the study the discussion and the conclusion. The conclusion is left to the researcher to fill according to the payer of the study and personal matters.

You need to read the study in whole especially the discussion.

I would have brought many references if I just knew you will understand them, but then my labor will be for nothing.
Dont use the Occamrazor untill you become specialist in the field of where the occamrazor to be used.
You can still go back to school, but you have to get Bachler degree in Molecular biology or medicine and then master degree in Molecular Biology (DNA statistics is in there).
good luck

It is my understanding that Iranians are also predominantly J1 or J2
a reply to: adnanmuf

a reply to: adnanmuf

Posting a big wall of text doesn't make your position right. From YOUR source.

While the Jews of today are connected historically and religiously to the Jews of ancient Israel, the DNA evidence also indicates that a significant amount of Jewish ancestry can be traced directly back to their Israelite/Middle Eastern ancestors. However, these ancestors represented a heterogeneous mix of Semitic and Mediterranean groups, even at their very beginnings.

Basically same today as it was back then.

Its presence among contemporary Sephardic and Ashkenazi populations indicates the preservation of Israelite Semitic ancestry

The very source you provide concludes they have preserved their Semitic ancestry.

Like last time, you are wrong, and have no clue what you are reading or what the implications/meanings are.

Please source that there was only ONE Haplogroup in the entire Middle East until 500AD. Hilariously wrong, even for you. The Middle East was full of non-Semitic people several thousand years ago.

originally posted by: Nochzwei
It is my understanding that Iranians are also predominantly J1 or J2
a reply to: adnanmuf

Iranians are 10% J1. You must have meant Iraq.

you just keep reading from the conclusion of jewish dr hammer from his old 2004 study!!!

as it turned out by dr anatoly russia, all the J1 haplogroup men in current day jews are descendents from two men, one lived 900 years ago and one lived 1300 years ago, these two could have been Arab converts chosen to fill the rank of cohanim in sephardim 1300 years ago and ashkenazim 900 years ago.

the fact they existed several hundred years after the jews were living in Palestine (meaning the original Israelites), then the two can not be proof they are from the ancient Israelites.
However Arab J1 most common recent Ancestor is 4000 years ago, exact time of Abraham.

a reply to: adnanmuf

Prove it. And no, it was not Dr. Hammer, I was quoting Giacomo. It's from YOUR source. Hilarious how you provide a source and then say what you agree with is right and what you disagree with your source is wrong. Keep hating it makes you look a fool.

Anti-semitic has a common meaning of anti-Jewish that has little or nothing to do with Semites as a "racial" group.

get over it.

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
Anti-semitic has a common meaning of anti-Jewish that has little or nothing to do with Semites as a "racial" group.

get over it.

Hatred is the hardest drug to kick.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Nochzwei
It is my understanding that Iranians are also predominantly J1 or J2
a reply to: adnanmuf

Iranians are 10% J1. You must have meant Iraq.

No,
I think I saw a bbc documentary done by an Iranian scientist, not long back who proved that Iranians were not r1a but j1 , j2.
there is a video somewhere on youtube about this

originally posted by: Nochzwei

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Nochzwei
It is my understanding that Iranians are also predominantly J1 or J2
a reply to: adnanmuf

Iranians are 10% J1. You must have meant Iraq.

No,
I think I saw a bbc documentary done by an Iranian scientist, not long back who proved that Iranians were not r1a but j1 , j2.
there is a video somewhere on youtube about this

Shrug, it's not true. If you think it is show peer reviewed sources. Iraq has higher levels of J1, Iran from everything I have seen does not. Also J2 is meaningless since we are going on the premise it's "not Semitic" per the OP.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Think that paper has been pretty much discredited by Johns Hopkins geneticist Eran ElhaikDNA who is also a Jew.
Source, His research indicates most today's Jews are from Turkic Khazars that converted to Judaism in the eighth century.

It makes no real difference as being a Jew is about religion not race. But it does disallow zionist from using the anti-semite line to try stop discussion about their Government which was never anti-racial to begin with.

originally posted by: glend
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Think that paper has been pretty much discredited by Johns Hopkins geneticist Eran ElhaikDNA who is also a Jew.
Source, His research indicates most today's Jews are from Turkic Khazars that converted to Judaism in the eighth century.

It makes no real difference as being a Jew is about religion not race. But it does disallow zionist from using the anti-semite line to try stop discussion about their Government which was never anti-racial to begin with.

The person you sourced has a horribly flawed premise. His premise is that the people who live in the area today are genetically identical to the Khazars. The main flaw with that is that it's a proven fact the Armenians have a strong Middle Eastern genetic influence, and there is literally zero evidence they are genetically identical to the Khazars.

He is using the exact same data I presented, only making assumptions that he does not give any evidence for to come to a different conclusion. There are other researchers that come to the same conclusion he disagrees with your source saying there is a Khazar connection most likely just a small one.