Quality Ghost Video IMO

a reply to: SecretKnowledge

Actually, once again it wasn't smoke. I tried to debunk as smoke just in case before posting using same phone and we blew smoke in front of it, let it just rise from a cig but it looks nothing like it so don't tell me its smoke.

a reply to: Overtime

Your never gonna replicate smoke exactly the same. If you look closely the guy with the cigarette moves towards the camera quickly and then back again, leaving a trail of smoke.
Im beginning to think your pulling peoples leg here just to see how far you can go with this

a reply to: ChaosComplex

You guys claiming smoke...smh. Amazing you can go through life and still not be able to pick up on what looks right and what doesn't. Then when you're completely wrong, still have the audacity to convince yourself you're right. You're doing a disservice to your own intellect and common sense. And the funny part is, I'm willing to bet none of you even smoke but your an authority on cigarette smoke behavior.

To the OP: I feel your frustration but your wasting your time trying to reason with people who are obtuse. I guess that goes for me too.

After watching the vid, then pausing and rewatching...

And I would be one to scream ghost if I thought it was...

But in all honesty, it looks like smoke.

It looks like someone took a hit off of something and then let it out maybe accidentally.
It also looks like strong ventilation in the building.

But that is just an opinion. I have had plenty of experiences people have said couldn't be what it was too, so I understand both sides on this one.

a reply to: SecretKnowledge

If the OP comes on and tells us there was no fan blowing or hot air coming from somewhere, it would also move like that if someone was simply blowing at smoke from underneath causing it to rise fast

lol. You crack me up. Now it's someone blowing AT smoke from below? I would like to put your statement in perspective for a second from the standpoint of someone reading your comments. You sound desperate. So desperate in fact, you're willing to sacrifice your own intellectual reputation on a public forum just to be contradictory.

Lol. Anytime you want to debate me, I welcome you to join my threads And I'm not even smart.

The OP says he/they have tried to recreate the effect with smoke, with no success. Awesome. They actually tried to test the conditions in order to better understand what they were seeing. This is more involved than many of the posts here. Kudos for the (alleged) effort.

To the OP:
Maybe show us some of your "test videos" which shoot down the smoke theory, instead of saying "Nope, I tested it and it's not smoke." It would go a long way to improve your credibility.

originally posted by: FlySolo
And the funny part is, I'm willing to bet none of you even smoke but your an authority on cigarette smoke behavior.

That is funny, and I bet the casinos just love you!

I just farted and stuff came out. Prove it DIDNT happen.

Eh?

a reply to: FlySolo

You know it's funny because I waited two weeks before posting this while I tried to figure out what it was since I knew no one blew any smoke at that time. After testing different theories trying to debunk it since I've never seen a ghost and have no agenda, I was unable to explain it. That is the only reason I even posted it. Several members outright stated that it doesn't behave or look like smoke anyway. Just thought I would share something that was/is unexplained. I know it's futile though to argue with the "It's smoke crowd". I would be happy to entertain theories that I have not debunked yet if any are out there.

a reply to: ChaosComplex

Good point, I will see if he still has our tests on his phone and post them. Thanks for the constructive comment. I was so fed up with the comment of " don't come on here posting videos of smoke" that I didn't check this for a while.

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
a reply to: Overtime

Your never gonna replicate smoke exactly the same. If you look closely the guy with the cigarette moves towards the camera quickly and then back again, leaving a trail of smoke.
Im beginning to think your pulling peoples leg here just to see how far you can go with this

That is a different video you are referring to (the stun Cain one) which I wasn't there but I trust the singer if he says he didn't blow smoke in front of the camera. I have no agenda and I'm not pulling the wool over you eyes. In the OP video showing the band on stage, no one blew smoke for sure I was there and I can't explain it. I've never seen a ghost and have no interest in deceiving you.

a reply to: Overtime Wow!!

a reply to: Overtime

It's not SMOKE! don't people read?! people act like they were #ing there!



Why can't people just accept the fact that paranormal beings exist?

Just looking at the footage the first time, I didn't for one second think it was smoke, bug, or lens flare. It moves too fast!

Great post! S&F

a reply to: Midnight13

Howdy,

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe in everything you read? Obviously not, if you are here on a conspiracy forum. Being skeptical of claims is the starting point from which you rule out likely natural scenarios and only then move to supernatural explanations. If one jumps all the way to claiming everything they see and do not understand is paranormal, they lose credibility.

No one, at least not from the posts I read, who claimed that the video looked like smoke stated that paranormal beings did not exist. That's a very bold statement to make, and no one of a sound mind would make it from one video's evidence alone.

Now, I strongly believe that the "thing" in the video looks like smoke and I have certainly said so. This is not an assertion that it is smoke, and surely I was not there and cannot make that claim, but it is a suggestion that it looks like smoke. Likewise, you cannot with certainty claim that it is a paranormal entity because you were not there.

Certainly you are free to disagree with me, as are others free to disagree with me, you, or both of us.

Sincere regards,
Hydeman

a reply to: hydeman11

It just seems to me like people are so quick to claim something even though they don't even know.

I like to believe this footage is real because I saw with my own eyes white smoke in my room. No one is gonna believe me because I don't have any evidence, even if I did, they would tell me it's just smoke. I know what I saw because smoke doesn't just come out of nowhere!

I've seen lots of weird things in my life, and I even try to recreate it myself but it's just not possible.

Maybe I just believe the other side is so close to us that I accepted the fact that it's here and we just co exist like we do with animals.

originally posted by: Midnight13
a reply to: hydeman11

It just seems to me like people are so quick to claim something even though they don't even know.

I like to believe this footage is real because...

I'm still waiting for the OP to come back and post some of the test videos that prove there is no way this could be smoke...or come back and tell us that these videos, made to support his own claims, are conveniently gone.

I fully believe in the paranormal, so much so that I was a member of a certain 'Ghost and Paranormal Society' in Arizona that did real field research, with tens of thousands of dollars in equipment. I've been on 'hunts' and have seen examples of things that are unexplainable, including scratches on people seeming to appear from nowhere. My mom's best friend is the child of a woman who has done (successful) psychic work with various police departments. It's not a matter of "They're skeptical because they don't even believe in the paranormal", you just assume it to be so. Skepticism is often brought about by the way information is presented.

I believe in Extraterrestrial life as well, and you'll see me in the UFO threads with just as much skepticism directed towards the OP's, because it's very easy to fake videos or just misunderstand what you're looking at.

Judging by the lack of response by the OP, I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume these 'test videos' are not going to be making an appearance.

Didn't see that coming.

I do not think it's smoke, not sure what it is but it's definately not smoke. I was going to say lense flare or glare off of an instrument but I don't think that is it either. I'm not sure what it is. I will saw that the white streak on the left is definately a bug though.

originally posted by: ChaosComplex
Judging by the lack of response by the OP, I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume these 'test videos' are not going to be making an appearance.

Didn't see that coming.

Lack of response? He's got two pages of responses. Probably just sick of repeating himself
Responses

originally posted by: FlySolo
Lack of response? He's got two pages of responses. Probably just sick of repeating himself
Responses

Great job! I agree the OP was repeating him/her -self a lot, but there was little to no substance to the things being repeated - only a clear reservation to entertain the idea that the video wasn't showing a 'ghost'.

However, I was referring to the lack of responses after this:

originally posted by: Overtime
Good point, I will see if he still has our tests on his phone and post them. Thanks for the constructive comment. I was so fed up with the comment of " don't come on here posting videos of smoke" that I didn't check this for a while.

Which was OP's reply to my suggestion that posting the supposed test videos, whether they proved it was or was not smoke, would improve the reactions of the responders in this thread.

Leads me to believe that the OP was blowing smoke up our butts by mentioning his own 'debunking' through experimentation. Less-than-clever double pun totally intended.

a reply to: ChaosComplex

You're nit picking it to death if I may say so. The OP doesn't strike me as a hoaxer and has participated in his own thread. Go take a smoke in the bathroom and turn on the fan, see if you can reproduce it.