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originally posted by: BO XIAN
1. The globalists' timeline has been centuries long. They have been an exceedingly patient lot.
Socialism doesn't eliminate individual giving and voluntary charity, it just insures that those things aren't necessary for survival. Not everyone can do for themselves. So again, no contradiction.
in control of their emotions?
People who have accumulated great wealth and power are most likely highly intelligent and in control of their emotions.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
SOCIOPATHS
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: NavyDoc
Again, this ruling was NOT about contraception, or even if the government has the right to enforce mandates on the American people. The Religious Freedom and Restoration Act says they do.
This ruling was about bestowing human rights on some for profit corporations. It was about SCOTUS setting a dangerous precedent.
In all the history of the Untied States and corporate law, never before 2010 did corporations have the rights to free speech and religious expression. Corporations have no souls, can't be imprisoned or executed, can't vote and can't pray.
I would think that of all people you would see that. But, I guess NavyDoc, you're into protecting corporate interests before natural people's rights. Please don't tell me that the military is protecting my rights ever again.
In the 1886 case Santa Clara v. Southern Pacific, the Chief Justice Waite of the Supreme Court orally directed the lawyers that the Fourteenth Amendment equal protection clause guarantees constitutional protections to corporations in addition to natural persons, and the oral argument should focus on other issues in the case.
Thus, for example, in Northwestern Nat Life Ins. Co. v. Riggs (203 U.S. 243 (1906)), the Court accepted that corporations are for legal purposes "persons," but still ruled that the Fourteenth Amendment was not a bar to many state laws which effectively limited a corporation's right to contract business as it pleased
originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: gentledissident
Sounds like you've bought the MSM propaganda for the last 60+ years hook, line, and sinker.
originally posted by: windword
. . . . protecting corporate interests before natural people's rights.
Under such a ruling, it's not far-fetched to imagine companies (genuinely or disingenuously) claiming religious exemptions in refusing to serve gay customers or denying health insurance coverage to the multi-racial child of an employee. In fact, what would stop companies from saying that their religion makes them opposed to taxes or obeying pollution regulations or you name it? Just what we need in America, more corporations with more excuses to not play by the same rules that ordinary Americans have to obey. www.thedailybeast.com...
But in its rulings, this Court repeatedly gives more power to the interests of already-powerful corporations than the needs of the American people. In her dissent, Justice Ginsburg writes, "The exemption sought by Hobby Lobby and Conestoga would override significant interests of the corporations’ employees and covered dependents. It would deny legions of women who do not hold their employers’ beliefs access to contraceptive coverage that the ACA would otherwise secure." Except the majority ruling makes clear the interests of those women simply don't matter as much as the whims of corporations. www.thedailybeast.com...
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Bone75
Some members do NOT understand what "socialism" is. Perhaps it's time for a new thread to actually discuss it.
What happened in China and Russia and Japan - with their killing many millions of people - was not about "socialism."
SOCIALISM IS NOT THEFT.
It is distribution of the collective wealth of a state that ensures NO ONE starves, suffers needlessly, or is rendered helpless, homeless and alone. It's not that everyone has only one outfit, one room, two books, and half a loaf of bread. No. NONONO. It allows for people to have "more" depending on their contributions than others - but at the same time, NO ONE FALLS THROUGH THE CRACKS.
It is humane, altruistic, reasonable, and responsible.
Kali has an excellent grasp of it, and other members do as well. Runaway Capitalism is turning out to be as much a failure as "Communism" (which also IS NOT SOCIALISM) - when people are starving RIGHT HERE, homeless RIGHT HERE, unemployed, unable to vote, imprisoned in ghettos, and generally dismissed as "useless eaters" - THAT IS A PROBLEM.
What we have now is a hybrid Democratic Socialist Republic. The "commonwealth" takes care of building infrastructure, feeding the hungry, remedying (where they are allowed) the suffering of anyone who is a citizen. In my opinion, it is as much a travesty for the GOP to insist on removing the socialist framework that protects the vulnerable, as it ever was for China to impart "equal everything" on everyone.
SOCIALISM IS NOT COMMUNISM.
While progressives have some strongly socialist ideals, THEY ARE NOT COMMUNISTS. THEY ARE NOT THIEVES.
They look to the "social justice" of no one suffering needlessly.
In light of BO's description of world poverty, hunger, disease, etc. all being curable NOW - it is the Socialists/Progressives who want to implement that - but the GOP balks and crows and insists on wealth-hoarding.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Okay - how about you just back me up on my understanding of it!
Did you agree?
originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: AfterInfinity
Uhhhhhh hello?
I studied such in 1965 . . . before there was a known internet for the public.
The NWO THEOCRACY has been building for a LONG time.