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The Christian right seeks cultural and political domination

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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: manna2
i was pretty sure I refered to Samuel Wilhelm Hegel. Do a study. Hitler understood my point, it is in the forward to his book, mein kamp. And Stalin understood it too in his book he gives it glory. But you see x's and o's.



Your dread of the concept is beyond the pale.

It's like someone dreading a binary search algorithm, as I said.

Dialectical analysis is merely a method of seeking a closer approximation of the truth, just as a binary search algorithm.

By me pointing out the obvious flaws in your diametrically opposed position to my own, I force you to relinquish those points and thereby move you closer to my own position. By you pointing out the obvious flaws in my own position you force me to relinquish those points and thereby move myself closer to your own position.

Until we meet somewhere in the middle - hopefully as close to the truth as possible - if we're both intelligent, erudite and honest debaters.

Compromise but not unwarranted concession. Truth is always in the middle, as the saying goes.

Of course such a notion would be reprobate to the extremist right wing, who abhor compromise or honest discourse (whereby you have to admit when your argument is wrong and, consequently and by implication, concede those particular points to your interlocutor - which is unthinkable to the extreme right).
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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: manna2
I got into food production and i freely engage others on the topic. I talk the talk and walk the walk. I hope for the best and prepare for the worse. It is not a done deal.


While that is all well and good it does nothing to really address what seems to be the alleged underlying cause. If there is truly a 'multigenerational Bolshevik depopulation agenda' would you not think that your efforts, no matter how valiant, are inconsequential to the overall plan?

If 'they' are already manipulating feedstock, poisoning food, causing illness through vaccines and contaminating the earth (just to name a few anecdotes that have been mentioned) what good is chatting anyone? It is a done deal.

I do not see this transpiring. While I feel we have challenges as a species I feel that we will overcome them and continue to grow. I guess I am an optimist.

On a side note, as DToM has pointed out, we are a bit off topic, so I would like to end my posts on pigs, doom porn, globalists and such and stick to Buzzy's topic.

Maybe in another thread.



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 09:07 AM
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Would it help you if i state Stalin made the changes where he coined it "material dialectic? Its a system that morphs and in regards to it being implemented in the political spectrum, as in Stalin, we can see how beating concepts and ideals to death running them endlessly through the dialectic ringer you see how social engineers have used it being able to conform known absolutes into subjective shadows. To you its x's and o's. To me its a political tool being used to deprave society.a reply to: Chiftel



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 10:01 AM
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IMO religion is the easiest and most affective form of mind control.

If I was power hungry, I'd use it. It's all about the power and control IMO.

How many known atheists are there in Congress? None. How many suspected closeted atheists are there in Congress? About 20. It's easier to come out of the gay closet.

Did you know that, at least some, of the original Southern Baptist were descendants of the Puritans? Religious freedom my ass. They were all about forcing their British government into a theocracy.

This SC decision is just damn scary. And wrong in so many ways.



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: Annee
IMO religion is the easiest and most affective form of mind control.

If I was power hungry, I'd use it. It's all about the power and control IMO.

How many known atheists are there in Congress? None. How many suspected closeted atheists are there in Congress? About 20. It's easier to come out of the gay closet.

Did you know that, at least some, of the original Southern Baptist were descendants of the Puritans? Religious freedom my ass. They were all about forcing their British government into a theocracy.

This SC decision is just damn scary. And wrong in so many ways.





How is letting a private entity decide for itself the compensation package both "forcing a theocracy" or "wrong in so many ways?"



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: Annee
IMO religion is the easiest and most affective form of mind control.

If I was power hungry, I'd use it. It's all about the power and control IMO.

How many known atheists are there in Congress? None. How many suspected closeted atheists are there in Congress? About 20. It's easier to come out of the gay closet.

Did you know that, at least some, of the original Southern Baptist were descendants of the Puritans? Religious freedom my ass. They were all about forcing their British government into a theocracy.

This SC decision is just damn scary. And wrong in so many ways.





How is letting a private entity decide for itself the compensation package both "forcing a theocracy" or "wrong in so many ways?"


I will side with the women SC justices.

Not the 5 old Catholic males making a religious bias decision that only affects women and their reproductive rights.


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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs


Domination is sought by many groups. Currently it's the Left/Democrat/Liberal/Atheists who hold power in the Gov't.
(Dems voted to remove God from their platform a while back.)

Pick a religious group, a political group, a 'movement' group who feels pressured, shoved aside, or that they and their members have somehow been jilted in a fair say - and they are all jocky-ing for control and power. Whether that be political or otherwise.

Clumping an entire group together for it's fringe is a dangerously ignorant stance...

Not all Dems are or think like Pelosi, Feinstien and Obama.

Not all Repubs are or think like McCain, Palin and Cruz.

Have we really allowed the lowest of us to control us to this extent? We should be concerned for one another and our RIGHTS for each other and not let those who claim to serve us, part us.

The world as we know it has outgrown it's use for politicians...what we need to replace them with are STATESMEN.



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: Annee
IMO religion is the easiest and most affective form of mind control.

If I was power hungry, I'd use it. It's all about the power and control IMO.

How many known atheists are there in Congress? None. How many suspected closeted atheists are there in Congress? About 20. It's easier to come out of the gay closet.

Did you know that, at least some, of the original Southern Baptist were descendants of the Puritans? Religious freedom my ass. They were all about forcing their British government into a theocracy.

This SC decision is just damn scary. And wrong in so many ways.





How is letting a private entity decide for itself the compensation package both "forcing a theocracy" or "wrong in so many ways?"


I will side with the women SC justices.

Not the 5 old Catholic males making a religious bias decision that only affects women and their reproductive rights.



So upholding the law is a gender issue? The decision was the correct one if you consider the job of SCOTUS as being weighing the law against the constitution and the dissenting justices are the ones who failed in that job but attempt to use the bench for activism, not the proper role as delineated in the constitution.

How is having 14 out of 20 mandated types of birth control affecting anyone's reproductive rights? How is not forcing someone to pay for something you want affect your rights in any way?

And getting back to the question you dodged, how is letting a private entity determine their compensation package "forcing a theocracy?"
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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: SquirrelNutz

278 Republicans in Congress.

277 are White, Christians.

Sounds about right.


And they all follow the U.S. Constitution too.

I think.

Oh and Democrats in Congress are mostly Christian as well.




posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: Annee
IMO religion is the easiest and most affective form of mind control.

If I was power hungry, I'd use it. It's all about the power and control IMO.

How many known atheists are there in Congress? None. How many suspected closeted atheists are there in Congress? About 20. It's easier to come out of the gay closet.

Did you know that, at least some, of the original Southern Baptist were descendants of the Puritans? Religious freedom my ass. They were all about forcing their British government into a theocracy.

This SC decision is just damn scary. And wrong in so many ways.




How is letting a private entity decide for itself the compensation package both "forcing a theocracy" or "wrong in so many ways?"


I will side with the women SC justices.

Not the 5 old Catholic males making a religious bias decision that only affects women and their reproductive rights.



So upholding the law is a gender issue? The decision was the correct one if you consider the job of SCOTUS as being weighing the law against the constitution and the dissenting justices are the ones who failed in that job but attempt to use the bench for activism, not the proper role as delineated in the constitution.

How is having 14 out of 20 mandated types of birth control affecting anyone's reproductive rights? How is not forcing someone to pay for something you want affect your rights in any way?

And getting back to the question you dodged, how is letting a private entity determine their compensation package "forcing a theocracy?"


You mean tweaking the law, finding the loophole, to make a historically bad and wrong decision based on the personal belief and control agenda of 5 old fart male Right Wing Catholic judges.

These 5 old men made a power judgement against women's health and reproductive choices. This will backfire on them. They have damaged the credibility of the highest court in a secular government.

Is Hobby a Lobby going to stop buying supplies from China? A country that sometimes forces abortion? Of course not. That would affect their business profit.



Moreover, this case is a perversion of religious freedom. Our values of religious freedom and tolerance were meant to protect individuals in our nation from the tyranny of government and business. Recall that in the earliest days of American history, it was not only the King of England but the powerful East India Company out from under the mutual thumb of which American colonists were trying to crawl. Moreover, as I have written previously, freedom of religion explicitly includes not only the freedom to practice one's religion but to be free from the imposition of someone else's religion. The owners of Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood cannot be allowed to impose their religious beliefs on their employees. www.thedailybeast.com...











posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:19 AM
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Double post
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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:19 AM
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Yikes! Triple post.

I dropped my iPad

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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: pirhanna
Yes, this is true, but it's missing the bigger game going on. Right / Left is a false dichotomy in a closed system that ignores all the other possibilities so as to maintain population control. Whoever wins, we still lose - as long as we keep seeing things from within the box they put us in.

Yes. Big money, media, and politics only want to control us. They need our slavery for their power. They're pretty good at entertaining us into looking the other way or fighting amongst ourselves. We get a colorful landscape of distraction, while they enjoy power and luxury from our efforts. I conclude that most of them are too smart to actually be religious. Religion is a tool for them. It's a bigger one than entertainment, because the audience feels they are living the movie.



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: NavyDoc




So upholding the law is a gender issue? The decision was the correct one if you consider the job of SCOTUS as being weighing the law against the constitution and the dissenting justices are the ones who failed in that job but attempt to use the bench for activism, not the proper role as delineated in the constitution.


This ruling wasn't based on the Constitution. Where in the Constitution does it claim that "We The People" includes for profit corporations?

No this ruling was based on the Religious Freedom and Restoration Act, which ironically outlines when it is appropriate for the government to burden religious rights. The ruling was also based on the bias presupposition that corporations have human rights, proclaimed by the Robert's Court in 2010, but only to the degree that effects a woman's access to FDA approved birth control, in this most recent case.

Equal protection? Not here. Clearly this case isn't based on the Constitution.


How is having 14 out of 20 mandated types of birth control affecting anyone's reproductive rights? How is not forcing someone to pay for something you want affect your rights in any way?


How is limiting the number of bullets contained in a magazine in any way limiting the right to bare arms? Same argument, in my opinion. It's the principle, not the number of contraception methods available. It's the fact that the Supreme Court has gone rogue and is not protecting the Constitution.



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: gentledissident

originally posted by: pirhanna
Yes, this is true, but it's missing the bigger game going on. Right / Left is a false dichotomy in a closed system that ignores all the other possibilities so as to maintain population control. Whoever wins, we still lose - as long as we keep seeing things from within the box they put us in.

Yes. Big money, media, and politics only want to control us. They need our slavery for their power. They're pretty good at entertaining us into looking the other way or fighting amongst ourselves. We get a colorful landscape of distraction, while they enjoy power and luxury from our efforts. I conclude that most of them are too smart to actually be religious. Religion is a tool for them. It's a bigger one than entertainment, because the audience feels they are living the movie.


Slavery is Freedom
War is Peace
Ignorance is Strength

aka

Fear is Love
Faith is Knowledge
Oppression is Security



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:31 AM
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reparagraphed with microrests for old eyes and so more will read your very important post . . . with added annotations, bold and emphases and a few typo corrections, as well. THX THX


originally posted by: manna2
I am an animal husbandman. There is something going on that is relevant here. GMO corn is causing animals to go sterile, completely 100% sterile in 3 generations.

I dont feed corn and i dont eat corn any more
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We see generations in animals quicker than in people. The world is outlawing gmo, our reps are making it illegal not to grow it and we have laws protecting them from labeling gmo's.

[Let that sink in before reading further.

Anyone that the above FACTS fails to strike with the feeling that such things are utterly and totally insane . . .

must not be thinking . . . or
must be totally supportive of the NWO globalist oligarchy or
must be living in some sort of addiction induced la la land or
must be oblivious to even the basic realities of life . . . and continuing life.]




There are slow kill methods in progress. I see your arg with bo like this. Bo says we are going off a roof 100 stories high and we are in free-fall. He is concerned about the last few feet before we hit the ground. You see it uneventful because after 99 stories everything is still fine and there is still no blood to clean up.


ABSOLUTELY INDEED. VERY WELL PUT. VERY WELL PUT.



The failure for the aca to actually insure someone is putting all the sick and elderly in death spirals without getting any care. They have been thrown off the roof. Most have not landed yet and are in freefall.


As a rapidly aging veteran . . . there are already regulations in place to prevent basic, simple, effective life-saving medical measures, treatments at the VA for veterans past 70. Some such regulations are being mandated for all hospitals incrementally. I forget for sure but some may even apply at 65.

If anyone has the specifics, please post them. I've forgotten most of them.




I agree with Bo. Depop programs are in motion.


INDEED. To believe otherwise is to deny major stacks of major solid information documenting that.



The health pandemic in motion as illegals from border crossings are bringing disease to America and the vaccination program is already in place.

They are vaccinating hogs across this country right now. All the pigs are dying after being vaccinated. They call deaths from the vaccines...swine flu. What disease will we have after we become vaccinated?

It's a plan in motion.
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And if you want real doom porn. Those cell towers everywhere. One of the biggest crimes going is that they never let science print anything about microwaves except it makes heat. They literally have a kill switch in place that will make the cells in your body a potpourri.
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My opinion, get your house in order, we are screwed.

It is in motion.

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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus


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ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

REMEMBER, GROUP . . . THIS IS ABOUT THE GLOBALIST OLIGARCHY'S TYRANNICAL ONE WORLD RELIGION AND GOVERNMENT BEING FAR WORSE

THAN

THE WORST THAT BUZZY COULD IMAGINE FROM THE "Christian Right" "Dominionists."

DOCUMENTS TIE H KISSINGER TO 'DIRTY WAR' IN ARGENTINA:

dprogram.net...

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AGENDA 21 FOR DUMMIES: ORDER DEPOPULATION EXPOSED

article.wn.com...

= = =

ROCKEFELLER'S DEPOPULATION DREAMS PUBLISHED BY FOUNDATION LINKED TO MASS GRAVES:

article.wn.com...

= = =

AARON RUSSO LINKS ON UTUBE talks about his close friend Rockefeller's assertions re NWO etc. . . .

AARON RUSSO LIST OF LINKS ON YOUTUBE:

www.youtube.com... 1ac.1.11.youtube.dl-iPNz8oDs

= = =

FORMER BUSH INSIDER SAYS SWINE FLU IS A DEPOPULATION AGENDA

article.wn.com...

= = =

IS THERE A GLOBAL DEPOPULATION AGENDA BEING PLAYED OUT?

www.collective-evolution.com...

= = =

DR LEN HOROWITZ: PROFITABLE DEPOPULATION PLOT LINKS JP MORGAN & GOLDMAN SACHS TO VACCINATION CONTAMINATIONS & BIG PHARMA CORRUPTION.

www.infiniteunknown.net... and-big-pharma-corruption/

= = =

The above are probably 1/10th of 1% of the evidence available, or less.

AGAIN, this is merely asserting that the NWO globalist folks are creating a satanic THEOCRACY THE OPPOSITE OF AND FAR WORSE THAN even the wildest dreams of the "Christian Dominionists."


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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: BO XIAN

The entirety of World Weekly News in one post. Thanks for the, um, contribution.



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

It's like the OP CHRISTIAN DOMINIONIST assertions . . .

1. The politically manipulative Dominionists are not going to succeed, in part, because of the NWO tyrannical globalists and their very successful agenda.

2. Discussing such is not some vain attempt to prevent it. It's to wake still sleep-walking folks up enough that they can better get their houses in order and prepare their hearts, minds, souls, spirits for what's coming down the Pike.

3. Buzzy's fears are the LEAST of the planet's or the USA's concerns compared to the literally satanic THEOCRACY that the globalists are probably 80-90% successful already toward establishing on the overt world stage. It wouldn't take more than a few months to a few years of some VERY UNPRECEDENTED dramatic events to make it a done deal.



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

NO. "ALL" the evidence does NOT point in the opposite direction.

MOST of the evidence is affirming of the NWO agenda . . . including THEIR THEOCRACY (that evidence is still building slowly) AND PARTICULARLY DEPOPULATION--which has greatly abundant evidence documenting just that.

Believe as you wish . . .

However, when someone sounds like a dyed-in-the-wool globalist about such things . . . it becomes more than curious.



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 11:43 AM
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the literally satanic THEOCRACY that the globalists are probably 80-90% successful already toward establishing on the overt world stage. It wouldn't take more than a few months to a few years of some VERY UNPRECEDENTED dramatic events to make it a done deal.


"I read it on the internet, so it must be true!"

Lolzies.
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