The Christian right seeks cultural and political domination

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: manna2
Correct me if I am wrong but Obamacare is only in the United States. How does that effect India, China, Indonesia, Africa, etc? The world's population continues to grow, the so-called New World Order has failed in my opinion if their goal was to depopulate the planet.

every country has its unique conditions. Food and water are the easiest to pollute to get to most of the people. I do focus on our condition. Vaccination programs and the coming man made pandemics look like the biggest role player in the depop program. Africa and the spread of ebola for instance. I guess it doesnt matter much that the natives have been claiming its the dr's that are vaccinating them that brought ebola to them. It is in motion now. The bolsheviks are in charge of this program. How did these generational bloodlines do it to Russia where 80 million people died? They mostly starved them to death. In the usa, we now have fewer head of cattle that in the 1950's. They are irradicating all pigs. 7 million pigs have been slaughtered so far this year. You see it in costs but soon there will be few to none and the poor will not be allowed to grow a garden, raise a pig or 2, have a cow or goats for milk, raise their own chickens, etc. Gmo veggies only on the menu, and no livestock unless you have a big enclosed factory farm where you can raise gm livestock. Its in motion.

originally posted by: manna2
Africa and the spread of ebola for instance. I guess it doesnt matter much that the natives have been claiming its the dr's that are vaccinating them that brought ebola to them. It is in motion now.

The number of Ebola deaths for the last outbreak numbers in the hundreds. Not exactly knocking off huge chunks of the population, is it?

The bolsheviks are in charge of this program. How did these generational bloodlines do it to Russia where 80 million people died? They mostly starved them to death.

I acknowledged that there were certain cases of documented genocide, it still has not put a dent in the population.

In the usa, we now have fewer head of cattle that in the 1950's. They are irradicating all pigs. 7 million pigs have been slaughtered so far this year. You see it in costs but soon there will be few to none and the poor will not be allowed to grow a garden, raise a pig or 2, have a cow or goats for milk, raise their own chickens, etc. Gmo veggies only on the menu, and no livestock unless you have a big enclosed factory farm where you can raise gm livestock. Its in motion.

Your anecdotal evidence is not accurate for the industry:

In 2013, moderate increases in farrowings and continued strong productivity gains are expected to yield an annual U.S. pig meat production level that is about 2.3 percent above 2012 numbers, according to the latest U.S. Department of Agriculture report.


Commercial pig meat production is expected to be 23.8 billion pounds. Higher estimates for average dressed weights as a result of lower feed costs contribute to the higher production forecast, according to the USDA. Hog prices in 2013 are expected to be $57–$61 per cwt, about 2.7 percent below 2012 numbers.

Foreign demand for U.S. pig meat products will continue to be an important market focus in 2013. Lower U.S. pig meat prices, together with continued global economic growth will, in all likelihood, support continued strong exports. Next year the USDA anticipates that 22.7 percent of commercial pig meat production will be exported, versus almost 23 percent in 2012. Total U.S. pig meat exports for 2013 are forecast at 5.4 billion pounds, about unchanged from expected 2012 numbers.

As is almost always the case, over two-thirds of U.S. exports in 2013 are expected to go to U.S. North American Free Trade Agreement partners, Canada and Mexico, and to Japan. Japan is expected to remain the number one foreign destination for U.S. pig meat exports in 2013. Source

I am not into doom porn apocalypse scenarios no matter how vociferously people shout that 'it is coming', all the evidence points in the opposite direction.

Dude. That was early 2013. They just closed a huge pig farm near where i live. They forced them to vaccinate all their hogs. They all started dying. So they shut down, Completely. So far in2014 they have slaughtered 7 million pigs. That does not count the ones that died on their own from the vaccinations. Or the fact they are going sterilea reply to: AugustusMasonicus

278 Republicans in Congress.

277 are White, Christians.

Sounds about right.

originally posted by: manna2
Dude. That was early 2013.

Which was only 6 months ago. When the 2014 numbers come out feel free to post them.

They just closed a huge pig farm near where i live. They forced them to vaccinate all their hogs. They all started dying. So they shut down, Completely.

Anecdotal and irrelevant. Pork production is still up.

So far in2014 they have slaughtered 7 million pigs. That does not count the ones that died on their own from the vaccinations. Or the fact they are going sterilea reply to:

There are no reports the PEDv is causing sterility and it is only killing piglets, not adult hogs. Granted that there were those that lost a run of hogs but it appears most farmers are taking precautions and I do not see this as part of some sort of globalist depopulation frightfest.

I swear, it is almost like some of you want this to be true.

Untrue. They were forcasting for 2013.its well over a year old and addresses nothing ofwhat i have told you of the slaughter taking place in real time. Now you sound dishonest.a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

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The idea of them cut loose to run the country or worse the world could leave one breaking out in hives or worse.

Again we agree. ! So why all the bluster?

I am deep in the trenches on this. My lively hood is at stake. I wantto help feed people in this crisis. I Do NOT WANT IT TO BE TRUE but i have eyes wide open. The bolsheviks are here and they have an agenda and it is all about foodnow. a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: manna2
Untrue. They were forcasting for 2013.its well over a year old and addresses nothing ofwhat i have told you of the slaughter taking place in real time. Now you sound dishonest.

The 'slaughter' was of piglets, hog production has been trending upward for decades as indicated by this article that includes the final numbers for 2013. Projections are that 2014 will also show an increase.

feedstuffs.com...

I am not sure why you could not find this.

Rabobank has published a new report on the impact of the Porcine Epidemic Diarrhea Virus (PEDV) on the North American herd, forecasting significant impacts on production and slaughter through 2015, and identifying the opportunity for U.S. poultry to step into the market gap.

In the report, published by the bank's Food & Agribusiness Research and Advisory team, Rabobank says that PEDv thus far has impacted about 60% of the U.S. breeding herd, 28% of the Mexican herd, and is beginning to develop in Canada.  If PEDv spreads in Canada and Mexico at the pace seen in the U.S., Rabobank says that North American hog slaughter could decline by nearly 18.5 million hogs over 2014 and 2014, or 12.5% relative to 2013 levels.  Overall U.S. pork production is anticipated to decline 6% to 7% in 2014, the most in more than 30 years.

"In the U.S., we see the outbreak of PEDv causing a significant shortfall in the availability of market hogs in 2014 - to the tune of 12.5 million hogs or 11% of annual slaughter," explained Rabobank Analyst William Sawyer. "Given the ever rising number of PEDv cases reported, coupled with a six-month average lifecycle, the months of August through October are likely to be the tightest for processors, where slaughter could decline by 15% - 25% against 2013 levels. If the virus continues at its current rate, the shortfall to U.S. slaughter in 2014 could be as much as 15 million hogs."

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: manna2
...and identifying the opportunity for U.S. poultry to step into the market gap.

Are they killing the chickens too? There is much speculation in that article revolving around August to October, which, checking my calendar, has not arrived yet. When the final numbers are in we can see who had their panic pants on or not.

Oh, and by the way, link your sources.

Linked it as you were posting, sorry. And as for poultry. Wanna bet on the coming cull for fowl and poultry? They have been working overtime to get a bird flu that will fly. a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

a reply to: ketsuko

First of all, I didn't "buy" any guns. I married a veteran Military Police Officer who was raised with hunting for food. He had guns. He taught me how to use them.

To be honest, I was always afraid of guns, and we NEVER had them in our home when I was growing up. I've learned the safe use and rationale behind having them, though, and I'm glad that with civil unrest at the level it is now I can at least defend myself and my home from SOME threats or intrusions.

Secondly, we do the aquarium water thing, too. A no-brainer.

Notice I'm not asking you to become a Christian. I'm just asking you give up something that means as much to you as my faith means to me.

And finally, I'm not asking you to give up your faith. I haven't suggested that at all. And the obvious thing I would cede is this: allowing these people to FORCE ME to become/behave like THEY THINK a Christian should behave. To REMOVE real science and critical thinking skills from the nation's children (Texas already has stated they don't WANT CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS to be taught to their children!). Shutting down libraries, disallowing other people the freedom to be away from religion, or from any religion other than Evangelical charismatic. That is how they are the equivalent of the Taliban.




Your general dislike for me has you constantly skewing my words and perspectives.

As far as projections for august+. The big hog farm that was shuttered near me?? It just happened last weeka reply to: manna2

originally posted by: manna2
Wanna bet on the coming cull for fowl and poultry? They have been working overtime to get a bird flu that will fly.

Sure. I will take the side that there will be no doom porn Bolshevik depopulation apocalypse.

You can have the side of 'they'.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
...(Texas already has stated they don't WANT CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS to be taught to their children!)...

There has been a backlash against this in Texas with many of the hardliners voted off the board and criticized by more moderate citizens (Christians among them). The article I linked a while back has some additional information that you can dive into.

I tend to think most people will do the right thing if given the choice and recognize extremism when it rears its vile head.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: manna2
Wanna bet on the coming cull for fowl and poultry? They have been working overtime to get a bird flu that will fly.

Sure. I will take the side that there will be no doom porn Bolshevik depopulation apocalypse.

You can have the side of 'they'.

who is they? The generational bloodlines working out of london? You know, the ones that just stole 10's of trillions from theglobal economy and now need to cover this crime against humanity?

originally posted by: manna2
who is they? The generational bloodlines working out of london? You know, the ones that just stole 10's of trillions from theglobal economy and now need to cover this crime against humanity?

If it is not yet obvious to you I do not believe in your conspiracy. 'Generational bloodlines' and 'trillions missing' are just some of the buzz phrases along with 'depopulation agenda' and 'enslaved masses' that your group uses support your mostly anecdotal 'evidence'.

Frankly, the way you speak, makes it sound like this is already a fait accompli so why the hell should anyone even bother worrying? Other then standing on some doom porn soapbox what are you doing to prevent the multigenerational Bolshevik depopulation agenda from transpiring?

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I got into food production and i freely engage others on the topic. I talk the talk and walk the walk. I hope for the best and prepare for the worse. It is not a done deal. Evil, for the most part, is stupid and dumb. They always have underestimated people. History shows it only takes a few enlightened souls to really change things forthe better. I havehope in people. Though admitedly i get disheartened by the extreme counter productive reaction where somany just quit and extend their arms for government handouts to survive. When real austerity kicks in and welfare ends it will not be pretty if you live in a citya reply to: AugustusMasonicus