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originally posted by: WanDash
a reply to: Starling
In more than one post, I highlighted the fact that each report I read said Duke was found near the parking area where the vehicle "had been parked".
I found It strange that two different reports would use that language,...
originally posted by: GreenMtnBoys
...Some very poor reporting by the media.
...1)TAYLOR BYARS 27 year old 6 year Arcadia firefighter paramedic and mixed martial artist
inexperienced, new to camping etc.
...6) According to Byars, Herdman ran off after his dog duke LATE that night they had set up camp.
Byars said that when Herdman didn't return he went out looking for him.
...7) According to Byars, the media etc. Byars looks for Herdman THROUGHOUT the rest of the night and into the next day. Reports have said it took Byars 2 DAYS that's TWO DAYS to hike out of the forest and find his way back. Byars ran into a couple of fisherman and was dehydrated and disheveled. They led him back to his truck and then he drove to the Sheriff's station to report his friend missing.
Ok……………so……there are some VERY glaring red flags. …
…Was Byars able to mention ANY specific times during which these events took place? I.e. "Late into the night"? Ok Was it 9:00 PM, midnight, 3:00 in the morning? Wasn't he wearing a watch?
…At what time did he quit searching for his friend Mike and decide to go get help? It was supposedly that next day. Ok was it early morning he quit looking? Mid afternoon etc?
…So he spent another 24-48 hours hiking out of the same backcountry his friend was just lost in? He didn't see anyone during that next entire day? And then he spends ANOTHER night hiking out? Did he sleep? What was he doing?
…Also there is no reason for him to be dehyrdated. The entire area is surrounded by water i.e. Sespe creek. Also if he was so lost how did he manage to find his way? Technically if he was lost he should have followed the easiest route out, THE RIVER i.e. WATER……
…Or did Byars not tell these two fisherman what happened? Because the media accounts say the two fisherman One article specifically states: "The fisherman called investigators after hearing about the missing firefighter on the news and indicated they found a bag left behind by Byars".
…There are a lot more questions and holes in this story……………
Also there is no reason for him to be dehyrdated. The entire area is surrounded by water i.e. Sespe creek.
originally posted by: JackofBlades
...While we all may disagree on whether or not there is more to this than just a man making poor decisions, I think we can all agree on one thing.
The information in this case is being very, VERY tightly regulated and controlled. There are way too many inconsistencies in each telling. The media, I believe, is simply filling in gaps. Someone knows what is going on, and they're making sure the information we all receive has no way of leading back to what really happened.
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: GreenMtnBoys
You're making some good posts, no doubt. I just wanted to
reinforce my stance here from the beginning. I sighted this
early on as fitting the 411 criteria and that's why I decided it
was thread worhty to this venue. So i hope you can see where
I'm coming from.