It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Not sure if you know it, but he was one of the investigators on the Polly Klaas case.
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: megabogie
David makes a prediction that is dead on and made my skin crawl.
He is quite a fascinating human being.
BTW just call me by name.
originally posted by: research100
a reply to: randyvs 3/4 of a mile away...in his BARE feet...how did the tracker dogs not find him??
or at least indicate to the humans to go in that direction????
how far from camp were they when they started the dogs????
Another thing that bothers me greatly is that Byers supposedly headed off in 'his car' from the parking lot to seek help, after two fishermen conveniently led him back to the trailhead after he got lost. This was on Sunday, 2 days later. So whose car did Duke the dog find his way back to? Herdman's or Byers'? Did the two hikers come in separate cars to take a hike? Not likely! So if not, and there was only one car, but the car was driven off by Byers, did he then park it in the very same place for the dog to find later?
Well i just speak from the minds eye and that could make me crazy by some accounts. I will concede my points when we get answers and then i may have to revaulate the whole minds eye part. Until then what i see is the widow and the friend conspiring. I see the much thought on the footprints. I seen a view of two on top of a cliff and i seen them take a ride in a car together after camp was made. However if you want me to be crazy then i would say the friend is a shapeshifter.lol
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: deadeyedick
Also we have a case here that involved a great number of
trained trackers and dogs. There are obviously no tracks to
blame this on mountain lions, bears, or any other logical explanation.
So when do some of you people not willing to accept the illogical
as more logical, relent?
I would say if not now, then never and that's OK.
I don't blame you one bit for fearing the unknown.
Scary as hell, I know.
originally posted by: Missmissie173
a reply to: GreenMtnBoys
First, Hip Hip Hoorah for all the great back stories and research about the Sespe region. Very interesting about the Chumash Indians and the rock paintings in and around this area.
To me, when you see the art history that Native Americans produced for hundreds of years, it lends credibility to the things we don't understand about this or any remote environment.
Very weird and creepy figures in the rock paintings from the link in your post. Besides the big creatures did you notice a dog in the background (upper left) and the little people have different types of heads or headdresses maybe?
I am thinking this topic deserves a thread in and of itself...
Also, the posts in your Back Packing Light link, have so many similar reports of strange sounds and uneasy feelings in the Sespe area. These people seem like pretty hardcore campers and hikers, so I would suppose they don't get the jim jams just on a whim. Interesting.
I agree the whole fishermen account is strange. I mean I thought this area is WILDERNESS...not Mayberry. Two fishermen are just out throwing a line in and come across a befuddled, disheveled and distressed guy, and are like "...okie dokkie old son, we will take you back to your car and best of luck with all that..." "Lets get back to the fish!"
That is simply fishy (big pun intended)!
Thanks for the additional insights.
I have added this family to my prayer list, and I intend to find out today if anyone has established a fund for them. I have no idea if they need any financial help, but I know that firemen in general don't make the big bucks.