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originally posted by: Kandinsky
Looked at a female ankle?
originally posted by: stormbringer1701
God is not a sadist. eternal torment would be as unappealing to him as it is to any sane individual. and Christians who gloat over the idea of their enemies and sinners being tormented forever should enter into a little self reflection or seek therapy.
originally posted by: AfterInfinity
I still don't agree with giving him all the power.
If I don't like God, does that automatically make me a monster?
Kinda like saying that Guantanamo Bay is just a nice home for people who don't like TPTB.
originally posted by: Skyfloating
originally posted by: stormbringer1701
God is not a sadist. eternal torment would be as unappealing to him as it is to any sane individual. and Christians who gloat over the idea of their enemies and sinners being tormented forever should enter into a little self reflection or seek therapy.
Thanks for posting. I was interested in hearing from people who think the idea of eternal torment is non-biblical.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: FlyersFan
Can you answer why the decisions made during a very brief ~75 years is supposed to effect where you end up FOREVER after those years are up? This is why I think that reincarnation is more plausible. I can't see it making sense that you get one chance to get things right then you have to live (no pun intended) with your decisions for all of eternity.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Still waiting for a response on this.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: stormbringer1701
God is not a person... God is a spirit...
Try Reading your own book... geez
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I just don't see how someone could still go to one of two places after a series of reincarnations like you said. Are you suggesting that we have a set number of times before we are done reincarnating then we get sent to heaven or hell?
originally posted by: stormbringer1701
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: stormbringer1701
God is not a person... God is a spirit...
Try Reading your own book... geez
we are all spirits as well. we existed before we were encased in this mortal flesh. and we will be spirits and persons after judgement day by the grace of God) God actually is rather like a good military officer or NCO. he did not order us to follow any rule or command he himself would not do. As Jesus he perfectly lived by the law of the old covenant. as Jesus he even died for our sin on the cross. he commanded that we all pass into the flesh and die once. He himself did so.
originally posted by: Jennyfrenzy
a reply to: Skyfloating
That's what turns me off from organized religions. Spirituality should be uplifting and while there are consequences to our actions I have a hard time believing someone will burn in hell for making a bad choice. For instance, stealing is a considered a sin but what if someone stole food because they're starving. Will they burn in eternal damnation because no matter what it's a sin? Scare tactics such as this honestly disgust me, but some people will believe anything they're told.
originally posted by: tallcool1
OK - I'll try to make this as short as I can for anyone who gives a rip about my opinion.
First and foremost - The Bible is really little more than a history book of sorts about the trials and tribulations of the ancient Hebrews. A book that was written after thousands of years of telling historical stories around the campfire and in the tents and so forth. These books were written by human beings who believed that everything was God's doing. If the Hebrews lost a battle - it was because God was angry. If they won the battle or had abundant crops or whatever - God was happy.
I want to add that I am a Christian (although the religious would debate that) and I believe that everyone goes to "heaven" or whatever is next. We are all spiritual beings that manifest ourselves into a brief mortal life (or several lives?) perhaps for the experience or...? I admit openly that I don't know what comes next - but I do believe we continue on after death and there is no way in hell (see what I did there) that an all loving Father-God would punish anyone with an eternity of suffering. Not even Hitler himself. Even if you are an atheist - you will go to the same place we all do!