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Egypt Treasure Hunters find amazing ancient artifacts( Real or fake?)

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posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 02:31 AM
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I agree with most of you that it just look like gold painted tourist stuff, even the pottery is gold
, and way too much sand though it is Egypt "The land of sand", it just overall looks wierd or unreal and not like a tomb.

But thanks anyway for all of your opinions, we will have to wait for now to see if anything more comes out of it

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posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 03:11 AM
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Hmmm did they say they work for a NIgerian Prince and his national bank?



posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 05:30 AM
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im going to hedge a bet that its real. what it looks like to me is these guys discovered a cave filled with gear already stolen and stashed away here by tomb raiders a few thousand years ago.
the potential for discovery here is amazing if this is the case.



posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 06:02 AM
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Is Phage on vacation or what?


To anyone interested in researching this...

Everything below was found using Google's "Search by Image" engine with the images found here.

The most interesting result was this Arabic article written by a Professor in Khartoum:


The sources, who asked not to be identified for the existence of a threat to her life in an interview with the German Press Agency (d. B. A), on Sunday, that there are gunmen occupy 4 graves archaeological in Naga dome west of Aswan was found Excavators pulled and robbers effects during excavation secret in an area rich nobles tombs of the Pharaohs where these militants impose their rule on these graves.


Professor Azhari Mustafa Sadiq
Professor, Department of Archaeology, University of Khartoum effects
Source: azharisadig.blogspot.com...
Translation


Why does this video and the one above look so similar to the one in the OP?


Better quality version(original?)


Other versions:

Translated from Arabic:


Video Bashir's government plundered the tomb of King Amnovis III and his wife ... "T" West "solid" and "Sadanaga"
Alrakubh published in Alrakubh : 05 - 05-2014

Video programs spread in social networking refers to the Bashir government's disregard for the destiny of the Sudanese people, and confirms that the Sudan's history and civilization is not worth anything at all these strangers natures and the Sudan People's magnanimity and self-esteem and its history ...

Alrakubh transporting you to comment, which was published with the Peasant as:
"Seven months ago ... there was a story about the discovery of a fuss .. city full of ancient western and solid Sadanaga .. Amnovis belonging to King III and his wife ... T ... were discovered by Turkish companies were operating in the way of Dongola and Sadanaga after ... News uproar two months .. .. The company withdrew from the Turkish company work the way the bankruptcy of the company under the pretext .. Witnesses elders of the people of the village and steel dome proper Cdo unusual movement of the State government officials and the helicopter landing .. in the text of the night .... And finally been leaked video. . illustrates the size of the looting that has been in this place and you have the video .. Shufu amount of relics stolen DVD.

www.sudaress.com...





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posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 06:27 AM
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originally posted by: Fisherr
How are people saying it's fake with 100% cert, when there is no data to prove its real or fake.

Because the question is asked in the thread title.

IOW, the OP asked for opinions.

Harte



posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 06:33 AM
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a reply to: Murgatroid

Hmm...The mystery just got more mysterious


I tried to translate some of the "Arabic" headlines in the youtubes and they all seem to lead to that guys blog.

But nice job and good quality in those videos



posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 06:52 AM
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a reply to: Mianeye

I also got no where using that kind of search technique.

After I tried the drag and drop feature in Google Images, that's when the results started to turn up.

Examples:

Search 1
Search 2
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posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate
I don't know, I'd like to believe but I don't. The face upper left at the very end of the video looks CGI. Impressive video though, gave me the willies in a good way.


Aren't there typically pottery vases filled with the treasure? How come they weren't stacked around?

These guys:




Those guys are used when someone has been mummified. Each of their internal organs are placed in one of those jars



posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 11:10 AM
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Having reviewed the video the following can be stated:

If it is real, then the person shooting the video just ruined a priceless artifact. But chances are it is fake. Anyone that deals with antiquities, be it a tomb robber or an expert knows the last thing you do to something that old is touch it with your bare hand. The oils on the fingers are slightly acidic and can do damage over time to most objects.

But my gut feeling is that it may be a hoax, trying to stir up controversy over this all. After all if they were raiding a tomb, the first thing to know is whose it is, as that would determine its value.



posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 12:01 PM
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Colour me intrigued. Thanks for posting this!

Imagine coming across these. I'd pass out with excitement and awe.



posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: Mianeye

I would say its fake.

The dust is only on some of the stuff, yet all the gold stuff is pristine. The sarcophagus wobbled. It wouldnt have lasted a single earthquake or even 100 years like that. Also it wasnt covered in any markings, or at least not the correct ones. SO this was a cursed person? Yet had all his organs and possesions left for his afterlife?

also....How many organs did this guy have? There are like a million little jars, well not jars but small novelty shop sarcophagus. Ordgans arent ever placed in something like that after mummification.

Here is a small novelty sarcophagus I found on ebay....


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posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 12:15 PM
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Woah dude, great find! This is the stuff ATS is good for!



originally posted by: Murgatroid

The most interesting result was this Arabic article written by a Professor in Khartoum:


The sources, who asked not to be identified for the existence of a threat to her life in an interview with the German Press Agency (d. B. A), on Sunday, that there are gunmen occupy 4 graves archaeological in Naga dome west of Aswan was found Excavators pulled and robbers effects during excavation secret in an area rich nobles tombs of the Pharaohs where these militants impose their rule on these graves.


Professor Azhari Mustafa Sadiq
Professor, Department of Archaeology, University of Khartoum effects
Source: azharisadig.blogspot.com...
Translation


Why does this video and the one above look so similar to the one in the OP?



I suppose it is because the videos seem to be of the same location, apparently (see below excerpt, with the added emphasise).

I looked further into this professor, Azhari Mustafa Sadiq On, and his opinions on the matter. Don't mind the translation, as it's Google Translate. Here's the full excerpt from his site:


I call these rumors so-called "cultural perspective", when reporters and spectators who sees through what they like to see. You can refer to the thousands of messages about this video you will find that every one sees from his perspective, and he attributes it to an area where, or close to it has counted more than 20 similar allegations last of which is Solb

www.youtube.com...

Users of trading social networking video clip was filmed last October shows a wide range of holdings within the (cemetery or somewhere) found under the bottom of one of the buildings in (somewhere) that is part (which seems to be) a funerary furniture (?) Contains a large amount statues and coffins and manufactures gold and stone without clarifying the photographer or video publisher where to find it, or the owner of the place. Trading has been in the news more than one place in the Egyptian media before Atlagafh pioneers of social media and spread with lightning speed and is subject to the interpretations of non-specialists whereabouts and his and his dismissal. I'm not here inartistic place or nature of these assets accurately, and do not trust in Othreytha, but I when I read the news and I found a lot of the comments sometimes refer to the sensor and sometimes to the quenched and the other to plant and Sadanaga and other despite the fact that it is possible there are many similar effects in northern Sudan. To illustrate, according to my knowledge, and if you like you to comment:

1. The pictures of this section has been published many times more than once as an example of what is published in most of the social networking sites, forums and other such as in a publication professor Ambassador Noureddine Mannan:

www.sudaneseonline.com...

The second, published Group (Researchers at the Egyptian Antiquities) on April 14, entitled filming coffin inside the tomb of pharaonic
Can be found at the following link

www.youtube.com...

The latter almost the same way that thieves have resorted to portray the effects of these sections and put a date on paper or newspaper or otherwise see, for example

www.youtube.com...

Both images of two sections at different times and from different angles as well, as shown in the picture here: YouTube clip on the right, on the left section rampant in most of social media



2. Despite the absence of any information about the films, but they range from movies filmed in different periods which things have become widespread, and here set videos filmed in the same cemetery from other angles and at different times, without specifying its place

A photograph of the arena beginning of the first place that you found it on these effects, and even the smallest details of its end, and with a history to shoot a video explaining through an Egyptian newspaper (Republic) 3:05 minutes and wrote a commentary on the passage:

Published on 1 Mar 2014
The sources, who asked not to be identified for the existence of a threat to her life in an interview with the German Press Agency (d. B. A), on Sunday, that there are gunmen occupy 4 graves archaeological in Naga dome west of Aswan was found Excavators pulled and robbers effects during excavation secret in an area rich nobles tombs of the Pharaohs where these militants impose their rule on these graves.

www.youtube.com...



www.youtube.com... ..

Taking into account that the above comment may not have anything to do with the content of the video!!!

3. My final word, which we are proud of our history and Batharna not, false my neck really any other purposes, and is in our country than the images in this video, we call on everyone to keep what is and cite him instead of constipation thread frail and confused and jump between the subject and the last ..

Sources related to:
Sudanaz Online
Egyptian Today


Greetings and respect
Professor Azhari Mustafa Sadiq on
uofk.academia.edu...
Professor, Department of Archaeology, University of Khartoum effects
Checked King Saud University


All rights go to Professor Azhari Mustafa Sadiq on, for the above.

azharisadig.blogspot.com.au...

Interesting stuff!!!

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posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 12:29 PM
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Posted below is a youtube account with different footage of the site. If the account is legitimate, it would appear that whoever was at the location has already started looting the stuff, if his home videos of the gear is anything to go by, lol.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 12:34 PM
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Possibly some new information:


Traded users of social networking, video clip shows found a large amount of the treasures of the pharaohs, the bottom of one of the houses, without specifying the location of the home or to determine the identity of the owner.
Explains video, which was filmed on Tuesday, the 15th of October last year, a large amount of statues and golden coffins and artifacts and original stone, found a hole through the bottom of the citizens of his home, by accident.
Commented activists "Facebook", the effects of saying: "sufficient to meet the debt of Egypt", expecting the emergence of other quantities surroundings home.


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posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 12:44 PM
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This would be amazing if it's for real, exactly why I come here. Don't know what you would do with any of it, must be nice to stumble across. Hope it's real and if not, I was fooled by the video.



posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 01:15 PM
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heres some reasons the critics here haven't made any serious points yet:

tourist reproductions are copies of original artifacts, so similarities are expected. the quality of workmanship to artifacts varied greatly by region, artisian, and the wealth of the client purchasing the works for their internment - so the quality of the workmanship is not a debunking factor. there were several large vases that may have contained organs. the sand is not anomalous at all, and its unlikely it was brought in as it would have been difficult to say the least, and a lung ruining dust bomb to deposit dust around the site.. most of the wooden items have turned to dust - many of the large statues originally held spears. some wooden boxes remain that were possibly lacquered originally. the faded paints on the sarcophagus are very real looking - hard to fake. the hoards of ceremonially placed mini effigies make sense, as these are the retinue of attendants in the afterlife. the ancient Egyptians did have gold colored paints and could paint clay vessels. real gold does not tarnish and any disturbance to the site could expose the gold easily making it look 'newish', as with many of these pieces. if the site was really found underneath someone's house, it would be very easy to conceal and keep secret.

does the above mean its not fake? no. but no one here has said anything that counts as evidence to disprove anything yet. Any real Egyptologist could probably say if these were real artifacts or not at first glance. are we not obscure enough to have an Egyptian antiquities archeologist expert here?
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posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: urmenimu
heres some reasons the critics here haven't made any serious points yet:

tourist reproductions are copies of original artifacts, so similarities are expected. the quality of workmanship to artifacts varied greatly by region, artisian, and the wealth of the client purchasing the works for their internment - so the quality of the workmanship is not a debunking factor.


If I see fifty identical 12" sarcophagi, crudely cast, and without appropriate decoration, my mind just says mass-produced souvenirs. Also many of the standing figures have material between the legs, typical of cheap castings. It avoids easy breakage. But very uncommon in real artifacts. Plus so many things are desk or mantel sized. That's very suggestive of tourist material.

That's what made me come to my conclusions. You are obviously welcome to come to other conclusions.



posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 02:37 PM
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If this was real that'd be really cool.. but i'm not betting on it being true. :/
not enough proof




posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 03:39 PM
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Some of the patina looked authentic enough, and there are thousands of tombs to be found... of differing importance. But Egypt was a rich, thriving society for thousands of years... say the top 10% got a tomb around this size... do the math. From an armchair perspective... chaos, opportunity, luck... why not?

Too bad it'll disappear to the highest bidder and losing the info for future people... but good for keeping poor folks alive. Hard to gauge how to feel about it.



posted on Jun, 5 2014 @ 03:41 PM
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Very interesting video...many of the smaller sarcophagi are identical to the grey figures Egyptian kids sell to tourists, except many of these appear to be gold...or painted gold. Many of the other figures can be purchased in shops around tourist centers, so it's possible this is a makeshift warehouse full of really cool stuff, but not the real thing.

On the other hand, I really hope this is the real deal, and agree that it may be better off away from Zawi Haddas, our favorite Egyptian con man.



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