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Yeah, where does America fit into the puzzle?
Oh yeah, where does the Bible say Abraham was a Jew?
Chapter 12
1 The Lord said to Abram, Go forth from your native land and from your father's house to the land that I will show you.
2 I will make of you a great nation,
And I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
And you shall be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you
And curse him that curses you;
And all the families of the earth
Shall bless themselves by you."
If she knew the Qur'an that well she would know exactly what I mean.
FlyersFan
168617
Because there is another meaning to it which you cannot see and will never see because you are narrow minded.
No. There is no hidden double meaning. It's very straight forward. And it's not prophecy. Oh .. and I"m not a 'narrow minded' person. I don't think you know what that means.
/USELESS
The only mutations that matter to large-scale evolution are those that can be passed on to offspring. These occur in reproductive cells like eggs and sperm and are called germ line mutations.
Mutations are essential to evolution. Every genetic feature in every organism was, initially, the result of a mutation. The new genetic variant (allele) spreads via reproduction, and differential reproduction is a defining aspect of evolution. It is easy to understand how a mutation that allows an organism to feed, grow or reproduce more effectively could cause the mutant allele to become more abundant over time. Soon the population may be quite ecologically and/or physiologically different from the original population that lacked the adaptation. Even deleterious mutations can cause evolutionary change, especially in small populations, by removing individuals that might be carrying adaptive alleles at other genes.
Most mutations occur at single points in a gene, changing perhaps a single protein, and thus could appear unimportant. For instance, genes control the structure and effectiveness of digestive enzymes in your (and all other vertebrate) salivary glands. At first glance, mutations to salivary enzymes might appear to have little potential for impacting survival. Yet it is precisely the accumulation of slight mutations to saliva that is responsible for snake venom and therefore much of snake evolution. Natural selection in some ancestral snakes has favored enzymes with increasingly more aggressive properties, but the mutations themselves have been random, creating different venoms in different groups of snakes. Snake venoms are actually a cocktail of different proteins with different effects, so genetically related species have a different mixture from other venomous snake families. The ancestors of sea snakes, coral snakes, and cobras (family Elapidae) evolved venom that attacks the nervous system while the venom of vipers (family Viperidae; including rattlesnakes and the bushmaster) acts upon the cardiovascular system. Both families have many different species that inherited a slight advantage in venom power from their ancestors, and as mutations accumulate the diversity of venoms and diversity of species increased over time.
168617
AngryCymraeg
168617
Hey, Where I come from you would be called a rat... One that isn't trustworthy. If you go running to moderators online, I'd hate to see what you do to people in real life..
Aha. Now you descend to pointless insults. How very brave & noble of you. Oh, wait...
You've admitted to trolling, you've insulted people here quite frequently, you've admitted that you have no wish to understand how Evolution works... why are you here again?
Read my last post and tell me why it's wrong if you have a PHd in evolution.
168617
And then go read the Talmud because it speaks very highly of our kind.
the Qur'an saying don't take Jews and Christians as your friends is common sense and logic.
CharlieSpeirs
reply to post by 168617
Abraham was the one granted the Promised Land of the Jewish people by G-d...
From the Torah... Long before the Old Testament!!!
Chapter 12
1 The Lord said to Abram, Go forth from your native land and from your father's house to the land that I will show you.
2 I will make of you a great nation,
And I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
And you shall be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you
And curse him that curses you;
And all the families of the earth
Shall bless themselves by you."
If you'd care to share the Quranic verse you are so familiar with then please do the courtesy of returning the favour, so I, the person you are talking to, will know what you mean!!!
Peace 16!!!
5:51 - O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
CharlieSpeirs
reply to post by 168617
Don't bother I found the Verse and all I can say is well done!!!
Sarcastically...
Because you've taken the whole statement out of context which is sinful, no better than putting words into the mouth of G-d/God/Allah!!!
Peace 16!!!
CharlieSpeirs
reply to post by 168617
Don't bother I found the Verse and all I can say is well done!!!
Sarcastically...
Because you've taken the whole statement out of context which is sinful, no better than putting words into the mouth of G-d/God/Allah!!!
Peace 16!!!
168617
What you see above isn't what it looks like ...
and doesn't exactly mean don't take "Christians and Jews" as your friends..
FlyersFan
168617
And then go read the Talmud because it speaks very highly of our kind.
Islam isn't in the Talmud.
Oh .. and remember you said this?
the Qur'an saying don't take Jews and Christians as your friends is common sense and logic.
Seriously ... you are tripping over your own tongue.
168617
FlyersFan
168617
And then go read the Talmud because it speaks very highly of our kind.
Islam isn't in the Talmud.
Oh .. and remember you said this?
the Qur'an saying don't take Jews and Christians as your friends is common sense and logic.
Seriously ... you are tripping over your own tongue.
Go read the Qur'an again because you really shouldn't comment about something you know nothing about.
168617
Go read the Qur'an again because you really shouldn't comment about something you know nothing about.
CharlieSpeirs
It's impossible for Abraham to be the "Patriarch of Judaism" & not be a Jew!!!
Abraham, 1813-1638 BCE, is considered the first Jew.
Abraham is one of the best-known people of the Bible. He's a key figure in the history of both the Jewish and Arab people. He was the great-grandfather of Judah, whose descendants became known as the Jews, and he was also the father of Ishmael, from whom many of the Arab people are descended. Abraham was a Hebrew, and although the ancestor of both, Abraham himself was neither Jew nor Arab.
Abraham From the Scriptural genealogical record comes some of the most well-known terms relating to Israelite people: Semite and Semitic originate from Noah's son Shem, and Hebrew is derived from Eber, the ancestor of Abraham. According to Bible History -
"The Sons Of Noah: Shem, Ham and Japheth...The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud and Aram. The sons of Aram: Uz, Hul, Gether and Meshech. Arphaxad was the father of Shelah, and Shelah the father of Eber. Two sons were born to Eber: One was named Peleg, because in his time the earth was divided; his brother was named Joktan. Joktan was the father of Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba, Ophir, Havilah and Jobab. All these were sons of Joktan. Shem, Arphaxad, Shelah, Eber, Peleg, Reu, Serug, Nahor, Terah and Abram (that is, Abraham). The sons of Abraham: Isaac and Ishmael." (1 Chronicles 1:4,17-28)
From two other people come two other very well-known identities: Israelites are the descendants of Isaac's son Jacob, who God renamed Israel, and from Jacob's son Judah come the terms Jew and Jewish.
168617
Sorry, your wrong.
FlyersFan
168617
Sorry, your wrong.
Sorry, YOU'RE wrong. Of course a Muslim will deny it ... the patriarch of Judaism is Jewish.
Funny, you said it's a logical and sensible thing for Muslims not to have CHristians or Jews as friends...
But you are quoting a fundamentalist Christian site .. and talking to non-muslims on this thread.
Again .. since all this goes against your beliefs ... why are you here?? It's confusing...
Say: O people of the book! you have no ground to stand upon unless you stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord. It is the most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But grieve not over these people without Faith. Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (Scriptures), and the Sabians and Christians - any who believe in Allah (God) and the Last Day and work righteousness - on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve
mOjOm
reply to post by djeminy
Ok, I'm familiar with that argument actually. Here is the problem I have with it though.
Actually there is a God, but he's in fact infinitely 'more' than immature human beings at present times can comprehend!
If that is the case, then God is unable to present himself to us in a way which we could fully understand and comprehend, at even the very minimum, just the fact that he and I are in fact present to one another. How is that possible that God in all his Divinity would be unable to even allow at the minimum for me to comprehend his presence??? Not his full and complete nature, but just that he was there interacting with me in a way which I totally know is true. Not a dream like, or fuzzy vision or something, but actually there in a way I can grasp.
To say that human beings cannot comprehend him and say that is a "Fact" is not possible. How could you Know that if he's beyond our ability to comprehend??? Or are you not Human???