The secret Eva Braun : DNA analysis carried out on hair shows she could have been from Jewish family

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Just quote the text where Hitler says he is an Aryan, i haven't seen it.

You might be right but i havent seen it.

PhoenixOD
reply to post by WarminIndy

 

Just quote the text where Hitler says he is an Aryan, i haven't seen it.

You might be right but i havent seen it.

edit on 7-4-2014 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)

Erm, Hitler talked constantly about how superior the Aryans were. To him Germans were Aryans, which is why they were superior. He always bragged about being German.

PhoenixOD
reply to post by WarminIndy

 

Just quote the text where Hitler says he is an Aryan, i haven't seen it.

You might be right but i havent seen it.

edit on 7-4-2014 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)

I don't think there is enough space on here to give you the amount of quotes it would take where Hitler himself identified himself as an Aryan, because he was German, and National Socialism is a German ideal.

April 21, 1921 Speech

"There are only two possibilities in Germany; do not imagine that the people will forever go with the middle party, the party of compromises; one day it will turn to those who have most consistently foretold the coming ruin and have sought to dissociate themselves from it. And that party is either the Left: and then God help us! for it will lead us to complete destruction - to Bolshevism, or else it is a party of the Right which at the last, when the people is in utter despair, when it has lost all its spirit and has no longer any faith in anything, is determined for its part ruthlessly to seize the reins of power - that is the beginning of resistance of which I spoke a few minutes ago. Here, too, there can be no compromise - there are only two possibilities: either victory of the Aryan or annihilation of the Aryan and the victory of the Jew.

Here in one speech capitulates to the Christian politicians by saying he is a Christian, and then clearly demonstrates his hatred of the Jews, by claiming himself to be a punisher of the Jews, and then turns around and says to other people that he is a worshiper of nature.

It's all there, even in Mein Kampf.

How do you get around his hatred of Russians, Jews, Poles, Slavs, Americans, British (Anglo Saxon) by claiming he was not identifying himself as an Aryan? And can you tell me what kind of Christian is this, by identifying himself as one only to the particular listeners, and then turning around and saying he was not?

This current conspiracy theory about Jewish domination, comes straight from Adolph Hitler and is repeated over and over again, but people just can't get the idea that his Aryan ideas, led to murder.

What a crock. Another sad example of persons who's lives are consumed by television and the internet.

Eva Braun had an apartment in Munich and a large dressing room at the Berghof. The former was evacuated when she moved into the Fuhrer bunker and was set afire by Gunsche. The latter was blown into the stratosphere by the US 163rd bomber wing of the 8th army.

Her sister Gretl had an apartment in Bavaria.

The whole thing is a joke. Some people will believe anything. As I said-rather sad

AngryCymraeg

PhoenixOD
reply to post by WarminIndy

 

Just quote the text where Hitler says he is an Aryan, i haven't seen it.

You might be right but i havent seen it.

edit on 7-4-2014 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)

Erm, Hitler talked constantly about how superior the Aryans were. To him Germans were Aryans, which is why they were superior. He always bragged about being German.

When I saw that question, I thought "Is this nuts or what?"

People stretch for anything to think Hitler was some kind of ubermensch only concerned about the German unemployment problem. The Lebensborn program was specifically designed to create a "pure" German race. Who came up with the idea for Lebensborn? Adolph Hitler.

spooky24
What a crock. Another sad example of persons who's lives are consumed by television and the internet.

Eva Braun had an apartment in Munich and a large dressing room at the Berghof. The former was evacuated when she moved into the Fuhrer bunker and was set afire by Gunsche. The latter was blown into the stratosphere by the US 163rd bomber wing of the 8th army.

Her sister Gretl had an apartment in Bavaria.

The whole thing is a joke. Some people will believe anything. As I said-rather sad

And no one is even talking about the skull. How did the guy get the skull? That's more intriguing.

Question: US Army soldier comes home with a bag that contains skull, daggers and hair brush. Guy's name is Bauer. Bauer does not open bag for 30 years. Why does a US Army soldier with an obvious German name come here with a bag he has to hide for 30 years?

Ceremonial daggers, a skull and a hairbrush? From an apartment that was blown up? I am guessing the guy was a Nazi sympathizer, that makes him a traitor.

WarminIndy
When I saw that question, I thought "Is this nuts or what?"

People stretch for anything to think Hitler was some kind of ubermensch only concerned about the German unemployment problem. The Lebensborn program was specifically designed to create a "pure" German race. Who came up with the idea for Lebensborn? Adolph Hitler.

Oh, the real nutter was Alfred Rosenberg. He was a self-proclaimed philosopher who thought up the justifications for Hitler's racial theories. Apparently he wrote books about these theories that were so turgid and stuffed with rubbish that not even Hitler could read them.

AngryCymraeg

WarminIndy
When I saw that question, I thought "Is this nuts or what?"

People stretch for anything to think Hitler was some kind of ubermensch only concerned about the German unemployment problem. The Lebensborn program was specifically designed to create a "pure" German race. Who came up with the idea for Lebensborn? Adolph Hitler.

Oh, the real nutter was Alfred Rosenberg. He was a self-proclaimed philosopher who thought up the justifications for Hitler's racial theories. Apparently he wrote books about these theories that were so turgid and stuffed with rubbish that not even Hitler could read them.

Wow, something so nuts that even a crazy person couldn't understand.

I would read that, but I'm afraid my normal mind would not be able to wrap around it either.

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Not all Germans were considered to have Aryan qualities. The Aryan was just an an ideal , a perfect 6 foot blond hair blue eyes Nordic type race that Hitler was aiming for, It was not blanket term given to all Germans.

The Aryan race was an expression, or ideal, used by the Nazis in Germany to describe the ultimate race they wanted to restore, or create. The Nordic people were the ideal model. It would be a pure race of white people who would be suited to rule the world. They made up an imaginary history of a pure Aryan origin to which they must return.

The Nazi party adopted “aryanism”, the belief that the Aryan Race was the “master” or “pure” race (hence the previous “purer” line about his coc aine). Hitler became dictator and the main instigator of World War II while carrying out his aryanist views by attempting to exterminate all peoples who were not of the Aryan race, most notably Jews and Slavs, in the Holocaust.

However, interestingly enough, Hitler did not himself fit the Aryan archetype, as he did not have blonde hair, though he did have blue eyes.

But like i said if you can find a quote were Hitler claimed he was Aryan post it.

PhoenixOD
reply to post by AngryCymraeg

 

Not all Germans were considered to have Aryan qualities. The Aryan was just an an ideal , a perfect 6 foot blond hair blue eyes Nordic type race that Hitler was aiming for, It was not blanket term given to all Germans.

The Aryan race was an expression, or ideal, used by the Nazis in Germany to describe the ultimate race they wanted to restore, or create. The Nordic people were the ideal model. It would be a pure race of white people who would be suited to rule the world. They made up an imaginary history of a pure Aryan origin to which they must return.

The Nazi party adopted “aryanism”, the belief that the Aryan Race was the “master” or “pure” race (hence the previous “purer” line about his coc aine). Hitler became dictator and the main instigator of World War II while carrying out his aryanist views by attempting to exterminate all peoples who were not of the Aryan race, most notably Jews and Slavs, in the Holocaust.

However, interestingly enough, Hitler did not himself fit the Aryan archetype, as he did not have blonde hair, though he did have blue eyes.

But like i said if you can find a quote were Hitler claimed he was Aryan post it.

edit on 7-4-2014 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)

Really? Then why in his writings does he say Aryan as synonymous with those from India, that he called indigenous Indians? And many Slavs are also blonde, blue eyed people. I know one right now from Croatia, she would be considered Aryan by those standards.

Read his words. He is the one who says the darker brown people of India are Aryans.

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True, not all Germans were of Aryan decent and it was more of a belief than anything else.

Hitler was well educated in the Vedic mythologies, that's where the word 'aryan' and the swastika symbol originated, and he had a fascination with the Nordics because their mythologies were very similar to the Vedic's (he may have thought the Nordics carried on the Vedic beliefs).

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Hitler's definition of 'aryan' did change depending on the socio-political point he was trying to make.

In the end, Hitler did not think Indians were Aryan and even though he supported their army at one point, thought they were barbarians that needed to remain under British control.

ETA: Hitler once stated that the Japanese were "honorary Aryans" because of their alliance. The word was tossed around quite a bit for propaganda purposes.

PhoenixOD
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Not all Germans were considered to have Aryan qualities. The Aryan was just an an ideal , a perfect 6 foot blond hair blue eyes Nordic type race that Hitler was aiming for, It was not blanket term given to all Germans.

The Aryan race was an expression, or ideal, used by the Nazis in Germany to describe the ultimate race they wanted to restore, or create. The Nordic people were the ideal model. It would be a pure race of white people who would be suited to rule the world. They made up an imaginary history of a pure Aryan origin to which they must return.

The Nazi party adopted “aryanism”, the belief that the Aryan Race was the “master” or “pure” race (hence the previous “purer” line about his coc aine). Hitler became dictator and the main instigator of World War II while carrying out his aryanist views by attempting to exterminate all peoples who were not of the Aryan race, most notably Jews and Slavs, in the Holocaust.

However, interestingly enough, Hitler did not himself fit the Aryan archetype, as he did not have blonde hair, though he did have blue eyes.

But like i said if you can find a quote were Hitler claimed he was Aryan post it.

edit on 7-4-2014 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)

Really, you are stretching. And what you are referring to is Nordicism. Hitler was not Nordic, but clearly identified with Aryanism.

You aren't really sure of what Aryanism means, it doesn't mean blond hair and blue eyes, that's Nordicism. Hitler concluded that Aryans came from India.

sheepslayer247
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Hitler's definition of 'aryan' did change depending on the socio-political point he was trying to make.

In the end, Hitler did not think Indians were Aryan and even though he supported their army at one point, thought they were barbarians that needed to remain under British control.

Yes Hitler sent out people all over the world to try to find races that had some Aryan qualities to try to root his idea of an Aryan race. But in the End the Aryan master race was just an ideal he was aiming for.

PhoenixOD
Yes Hitler sent out people all over the world to try to find races that had some Aryan qualities to try to root his idea of an Aryan race. But in the End the Aryan master race was just an ideal he was aiming for.

Yes, but he still held the Germans up to be closest to that ideal, followed by the Nordics and then some bizarre sliding scale downwards.

AngryCymraeg

PhoenixOD
Yes Hitler sent out people all over the world to try to find races that had some Aryan qualities to try to root his idea of an Aryan race. But in the End the Aryan master race was just an ideal he was aiming for.

Yes, but he still held the Germans up to be closest to that ideal, followed by the Nordics and then some bizarre sliding scale downwards.

I just don't know why these people can't see from his own words and writings that he held Germans in the highest esteem.

Let's see, he called the Russians stupid animals. He called the Slavs stupid animals. He called the Anglo Saxons (British) prideful. He called the Estonians stupid animals. He called the Romanians stupid animals.

He even said no German should immigrate to the United States. He also said that intermixing with Jews is illegal. He even said the United States and England will go to war against each other. But think about it, knowing that all of the Germans were at one time called Saxons, he doesn't seem to dislike the British because of race, he just never mentions that Saxons were German. He was a Teuton. But also he was from Austria. He was born during the Austro-Hungary Empire, and yet he calls Hungarians stupid animals that are lazy, along with the lazy Russians, Poles, Slavs, and Estonians.

If he considers all of those who came from the same Proto-Indo European stock, as stupid and lazy and inferior to Germans, then he considered Austria as German and superior. Which is why he said that Germans in Russia, Poland and Estonia are going to ride in first class cars and be first class citizens.

But if people want another view of just how the world viewed Germans in WWI, here is a good book, What Is Coming, A Forecast Of The World After WWI by H.G. Wells.

Written in 1916, he accurately forecasts the German national identity and how it will become a superpower, after which the United States and Russia will become the superpowers.

Some excerpts from H.G. Wells' book

This war has made Germany the central fact in all national affairs about the earth. It is not going to destroy Germany, and it seems improbable that either defeat or victory, or any mixture of these, will immediately alter the cardinal fact of Germany's organised aggressiveness.

This war was referring to WWI, that Wells was writing from.

We have already hazarded the prophecy that after a long war of general exhaustion Germany will be the first to realise defeat. This does not mean that she will surrender unconditionally, but that she will be reduced to bargaining to see how much she must surrender, and what she may hold.

Remember that this was written prior to the end of WWI, Wells had it right on the money. That's exactly what Hitler was saying to the rest of Europe. The only thing he got wrong was that Japan would ally with us.

Consider the names of the chief exponents of the aggressive German idea, and you will find that not one is German. The first begetter of Nietzsche's "blond beast," and of all that great flood of rubbish about a strange superior race with whitish hair and blue eyes, that has so fatally rotted the German imagination,

It was for that Hohenzollern idealism that Hitler fought for, and that Aryan identity he manipulated and he didn't forget WWI.

News Flash

Eva testing positive for Jewish DNA is not proof Eva was Jewish

It IS proof the Nazis had hundreds of thousands to millions of Jews in concentration camps and finding body doubles to do some dental work on that matched Hitler and Evas appearance was a pretty easy task...

Some might say that's far fetched... Saddam had like 16 Body doubles and... he did not have concentration camps to draw a pick of the liter so to speak from nor was he half as bright and crazy as hitler...

Pair of Jewish corpses with some dental work, that's what we recovered, Hitler and Eva finished it up in South America together with the rest of the SS... That's my guess as to what this proves...

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Except that there's absolutely no proof at all that they made it out of the burning, shattered ruins of Berlin.

AngryCymraeg

PhoenixOD
Yes Hitler sent out people all over the world to try to find races that had some Aryan qualities to try to root his idea of an Aryan race. But in the End the Aryan master race was just an ideal he was aiming for.

Yes, but he still held the Germans up to be closest to that ideal, followed by the Nordics and then some bizarre sliding scale downwards.

It seems that there are lots of factions of is considered Aryan and that the

Nordicist conception of the Aryan Race that idealized "pure" Aryans as having certain physical traits that were defined as Nordic such as blond hair and blue eyes

source

So while some Germans (not all) were considered Aryan there were others with Nordic features that were considered "Pure" Aryans as long as they could get an Aryan certificate.

all persons wishing to be a citizen of the Reich had to provide proof of their Aryan ancestry by acquiring an Aryan certificate

source

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Yet more proof that Hitler was bonkers in other words.