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reply to post by NavyDoc
So I guess what you are saying is there are regulations that are good and there are regulations that are not good. I can agree with that and I think most reasonable/rational people would agree with that as well. Determining what regulations are reasonable/rational is where the debate is. For those on the fringe who state all regulation is bad and for those who state all regulation is good....well... I don't think either one of us will ever get through to the likes of them.
It is defeating though when you label people. Such as statist, bible thumper, fascist, tea bagger, or what not. BTW my grandfather did die in a coal mine but that is besides the point. I never got to know him..oh well.
As far as this issue goes there are people on both sides that believe they are right however regardless of who is in the right I think most rational people can agree that a corporation such as HL which in many ways supports and even profits off of BC and forced abortion policies to then turn around and claim they should be exempt from providing standard healthcare which gives those options to its employes based off of religious objection is the epitome of hypocritical. Wouldn't you agree.
reply to post by NavyDoc
No, Government Sux a lot of the time, I totally agree, but you're wrong in saying that the Hobby Lobby Hypocrisy isn't the issue here. It IS the issue. So no changing the goal posts, or changing the argument now. Now that it's been exposed for the BS con job it is, don't start trying to change the argument.edit on 2-4-2014 by mOjOm because: (no reason given)
Hypocrisy? Perhaps. However, I think the real issue is not that a company does not want to pay for something, be it on religious grounds or not, but rather, why do we want more government mandates, interference, and force? Do we really want the same government who gave us the NSA, Guantanamo Bay, Fast & Furious, etc, etc, etc, getting any more involved with our lives and businesses?
Again ... they aren't fighting the workers from getting contraception. Their religion is that they can't help people get it. And talking to a doctor about getting it is indeed breaking their religion. So they won't pay for a person to talk to a doctor about contraception. But they don't stop the person from going and talking ... as long as the person pays for it.
Contraception is usually given with a prescription.
Most contraception isn't. Over the counter. Condoms. Foam.
And as far as 'the pill' goes, Planned Parenthood and neighborhood clinics have them.
Anyone can walk in and get a prescription.
Are these companies they buy from in China also performing abortions? If not, there is no hypocrisy!
I challenge anyone who thinks this is a real story anything but a joke to ask their companies executives what companies their 401(k) are invested in and if any of their 401(k) money went to the abortion pill companies. None of your companies top executives can answer your question! How many people here know what companies their mutual funds are invested in? Oh thats right, about 0%.
Our 1st amendment provides for freedom FROM religion.