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reply to post by FlyersFan
You're wrong. When the US invaded Iraq on suspicion of WMD and terrorist-harboring, the then Russia reacted opposingly and scorned the US. China wasn't friendly towards our actions, either. The difference today is the US has real power, as it did then, whereas China and Russia do not wield the same weight. Russia cannot do what the US did without the serious threat of sanctions. Despite disagreements over the US entering Iraq in 2003 and some loss of influence, the US still holds the bulk of the influence in the international arena.
Russia does not have benefit of the doubt, neither did Gaddafi or Saddam. US also has the economic and military power. It also has more human rights.edit on 15-3-2014 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)
No, the real power of the US ... was money.
It's gone ... and what EU has, as reward for supporting the US in it's endeaveurs ... is majestic unemployment, that brinks on world disaster.
A war with Russia, will hurt you much more than it will hurt Russia. Russia is already half communistic, a small push and they'll pull up the iron curtain again. But the US, will lose another round of several trillions of dollars ... it doesn't have.
So, to save face ... and leave your creditors happy, you'll give more technology to China ... which they will use later, to kill you with. In revenge for all the Chinese you murdered centuries ago. And you'll send more jobs to Indonesia, Malaysia and Vietnam ... leaving the US with more slums.
The US is not a super power anymore ... it's just a dying empire.
reply to post by rock427
do i have to remind you to check the debtclock .. rusia debt is pretty low vs us ...edit on 15-3-2014 by Dolby_X because: (no reason given)
reply to post by rock427
well you are saying the good old murica is over every one but if oyu check debt vs gdp it pretty low in the top
and yes debtwise Russia is in a better shapeedit on 15-3-2014 by Dolby_X because: (no reason given)
HOWEVER, the the former president is not president anymore, so whatever laws or treaties he put into place are now on shaky ground.
So you realize that Kerry is dealing with the fallout of George H-W. Bush? In 1992 the Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal to Russia in exchange for protection by the US and its allies. We were concerned with them being stolen, so George Bush supported the arrangement where we became responsible should they ever be invaded.
Its not being discussed much in the media, but we signed a treaty that committed us to their protection. It wasn't Obama or Kerry who signed the treaty, but they're bound by it.
I am not sure why America isn't support a democratic vote which is happening tonight and let the people decide. Russian said it would stand by the decision.
All this........yip-yip yap-yap........is fine but if NATO gets any further involved with Russia in the form of war
a) War where nukes are used.....................the world ends
b) War without nukes, which is prolonged, like for years.................the NATO alliance WILL ceases to exist.
The post war scenario will be a fertile ground for all sorts of evilness that has been in wraps for last 60+ years.
NATO is trying to get "unnecessarily" close to Russia. Better to pull back and focus on own backyard and internal issues.
Russia alone is weak but with Chinese money and Arab support, it can drag NATO to very serious a mauling. All the mess to cater the "Evil Ego" of people like Neocons, Kerrys, Clintons and other NWO schemers.