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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 01:05 PM
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Finally... Now this one I hope is true! Let's see if cooler heads can prevail after all of this.


MOSCOW (ABC Live):Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Saturday his country was willing to continue dialogue with the current Ukrainian authorities.
“We are ready to continue the dialogue on the understanding that the dialogue must be honest, partnership-like, without attempts to show us almost as a party to the conflict,” Lavrov said after talks with his Tajik counterpart, Sirojidin Aslov.
He also said Russia would push for an investigation into reports of snipers cutting down scores of protestors in Kiev’s Independence Square during the carnage preceding Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych’s ouster.


Source: abclive.in...




posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 01:11 PM
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majesticgent
Those troops above, supposedly, belong to the 79th and 95th airmobile brigade units.


UKRAINIAN TROOPS ARE DISPATCHED TO FRONTLINE. ZHITOMYR. 95th and 79th Airmobile Brigade unites. #euromaidan youtu.be...


Source: twitter.com...


Things are getting really strange Russia the country we expected to act like a super powerisnt and China the one we thought would act up is being a calming force in the world.China right now is calling for North Korea to stop and go to the negotiating table




The Korean peninsula is right on China's doorstep. We have a red line, that is, we will not allow war or instability on the Korean peninsula," Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi




Wang reiterated China's calls for a resumption of the talks between North Korea, South Korea, the United States, Japan, Russia and host China.

"Confrontation can only bring tension, and war can only cause disaster," Wang said. "Some dialogue is better than none, and better early than later."



So we have China being rational even with their statement on Ukraine and keep calling for people to stop violence and tensions and talk. And we have Russia who we figured was rational and a world leader creating conflict its almost like we have entered an alternate universe.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 01:13 PM
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Indeed, and Iran hasn't made a peep in awhile, but NK still remains the same they tested ICBMs at the onset of all of this, so our universe still seems intact, albeit a little different.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 01:25 PM
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U.S. clearly told Russia - we are ready to respond to the threat

Ukraine sent a clear message to members of NATO and the U.S. are willing to "say the military if necessary."

www.pravda.com.ua...



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 01:35 PM
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Fingle
U.S. clearly told Russia - we are ready to respond to the threat

Ukraine sent a clear message to members of NATO and the U.S. are willing to "say the military if necessary."

www.pravda.com.ua...


Nato is trying to let the Russians know that They will protect NATO members sovereignty but notice he also says interests.This is a key warning letting them know Russia taking over Ukraine is a threat to their interests. As they say a red line was just drawn by NATO the balls in Russias court now. I guess NATO had to put the military option back on the table thinking negotiating isnt working.

www.atlanticcouncil.org...



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 01:40 PM
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US Secretary of State John Kerry tells Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that any steps by Russia to annex Crimea, Ukraine, would close the door to diplomacy - @Reuters

www.breakingnews.com...



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 01:43 PM
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So we have China being rational even with their statement on Ukraine and keep calling for people to stop violence and tensions and talk. And we have Russia who we figured was rational and a world leader creating conflict its almost like we have entered an alternate universe.


Maybe this is what the higher dimension is like..



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 02:35 PM
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Media freedom under siege in Crimea, Ukraine, says OSCE representative

www.osce.org...



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 02:59 PM
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Crimea is already lost , we all know that , what the point in Kerry talking about it now ?



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 03:04 PM
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Russian MP Vyacheslav Nikonov on #r4today: 'Russia will do 'whatever it takes' to prevent Sevastopol becoming a base for US forces



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 03:12 PM
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And there we have the nub of the matter. To Russia, their naval port in Crimea means access to the Middle East. It has always been of grave consequence to Russia going all the way back to the break-up of the Ottoman empire.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 03:15 PM
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maddy21
Crimea is already lost , we all know that , what the point in Kerry talking about it now ?


An excuse for military action.
Canadian reporters in Crimea were reporting on how the Crimean people wanted all westerners out. They are very pro-Russian and see western media as an intrusion. They're getting a little bit hostile with western interference.
Unfortunately, there's no way the US government is going to let this go.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 03:17 PM
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And there we have the nub of the matter. To Russia, their naval port in Crimea means access to the Middle East. It has always been of grave consequence to Russia going all the way back to the break-up of the Ottoman empire.


Keep in mind there is Oil in Gas in Crimean Coast and annexing of Crimea will give Russia access to that Gas ... only few months ago Exon mobile signed a deal with Ukraine to access this very gas .. Putin will most likely go ahead with the planned annexation of Eastern Ukraine ..



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 03:18 PM
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maddy21
Crimea is already lost , we all know that , what the point in Kerry talking about it now ?


An excuse for military action.
Canadian reporters in Crimea were reporting on how the Crimean people wanted all westerners out. They are very pro-Russian and see western media as an intrusion. They're getting a little bit hostile with western interference.
Unfortunately, there's no way the US government is going to let this go.



Hello World War 3 ?? military action against Russia ? Are they insane ?



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 03:29 PM
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Operation Re-capture Crimea or what ever it will be called will most likely the very last option on the table.

It's been a week now and diplomatic talks with Russia have not succeeded at all. So the next phase will be to bump up the
sanctions most likely, but Russia will only hit back if they are imposed.

The ball is now in Russia's court now and god forbid they play the wrong card. What happens then would be anyones guess.


Ukraine will consider a military intervention is nothing is agreed upon diplomatically. Their sovereignty is at risk.


Russia's Foreign Sec wants to continue diplomatic discussions in the mean time it's all hope in waiting on the positive outcome.





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posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 03:37 PM
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I believe the consider military intervention is all the nation state players will do, but the militias and radicals might want to kick something off dragging the nation states into it.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 03:43 PM
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maddy21

snowspirit

maddy21
Crimea is already lost , we all know that , what the point in Kerry talking about it now ?


An excuse for military action.
Canadian reporters in Crimea were reporting on how the Crimean people wanted all westerners out. They are very pro-Russian and see western media as an intrusion. They're getting a little bit hostile with western interference.
Unfortunately, there's no way the US government is going to let this go.



Hello World War 3 ?? military action against Russia ? Are they insane ?


Insane. Maybe.
I hope not, but they're sure pushing.
Sometimes it sounds like no one wants to be the first one to back away.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 03:46 PM
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snowspirit

maddy21

snowspirit

maddy21
Crimea is already lost , we all know that , what the point in Kerry talking about it now ?


An excuse for military action.
Canadian reporters in Crimea were reporting on how the Crimean people wanted all westerners out. They are very pro-Russian and see western media as an intrusion. They're getting a little bit hostile with western interference.
Unfortunately, there's no way the US government is going to let this go.



Hello World War 3 ?? military action against Russia ? Are they insane ?


Insane. Maybe.
I hope not, but they're sure pushing.
Sometimes it sounds like no one wants to be the first one to back away.


After all the threats of Sanctions and whole host of other threats Putin cannot back down , US cannot stop interfering as well . But Obama and Kerry should have toned down the Rhetoric , because now if Putin backs down he looses his credibility completely in Russia ...



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 03:46 PM
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maddy21


Russian MP Vyacheslav Nikonov on #r4today: 'Russia will do 'whatever it takes' to prevent Sevastopol becoming a base for US forces
What an odd comment to make. Needless to say if the US does put boots on the ground in Crimea Russia will not be given the choice as to whether the US move their navy in for a short term stay or not! The Russians have wanted a conflict from the very start and they will get one if they continue with their rhetoric and if they continue to move further into Ukraine.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 03:46 PM
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A video of twenty Ukrainian T-64 tanks on a train preparing to move.



Google Translated Description of the Video


Servicemen mechanized brigade in the White Church ready to repulse invaders who illegally invaded Ukraine Several dozen tanks and other military equipment, which today put out of the military units were loaded on railway platforms. According to the official version, the technique is designed to participate in military exercises.

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