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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:11 AM
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From interfax :
Trains going between Crimea, Russia will be re-directed to bypass Ukraine




posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:12 AM
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DJW001

zilebeliveunknown

DJW001

pheonix358

DJW001

Yusomad

maddy21


#Russia’s foreign minister has ruled out any negotiation with #Ukraine’s new government


oh well....


Why would they? Illegal coupist fascist groups should not be supported.


Which is why no country has recognized Crimea as an independent nation.


He was talking about the ones in Kiev (That the West put in via a coupe ).......... and you know that! Nice try!

P


How many nations have recognized Crimea?

What do you think will happen when Crimea joins Russia?
Countries will start to unrecognize Russian sovereignty for that?
I don't think so...


Actually, that is pretty much what will happen. Russia will be booted out of the G8, Europe will get its energy from America, countries will demand that Russian companies pay for goods in gold, and so forth.

Oh puhleeese, get back to reality mate.
I'm no expert on geopolitical events, but I do know that Russia is major world player, so you don't just 'booted' them from anything.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:12 AM
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MessageforAll
From interfax :
Trains going between Crimea, Russia will be re-directed to bypass Ukraine


How is that physically possible? Crimea is a peninsula that is adjacent only to the rest of Ukraine.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:13 AM
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Sources in Russia’s Defense Ministry say officials are considering discontinuing US inspections of national strategic nuclear missile forces, citing “lack of trust” as reason for the move. Inspections have been permitted by the latest START treaty.

Inspections of nuclear forces are the major instrument of the new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) signed by then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and US President Barack Obama in 2010, and in force since 2011.

rt.com...


Edit: DWO001 : How, beats me, interfax only shows headlines of various Russian headlines ( I think )
www.interfax.com...
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As Wookiep already stated, take the hint, and keep it to updates
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posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:14 AM
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zilebeliveunknown

DJW001

zilebeliveunknown

DJW001

pheonix358

DJW001

Yusomad

maddy21


#Russia’s foreign minister has ruled out any negotiation with #Ukraine’s new government


oh well....


Why would they? Illegal coupist fascist groups should not be supported.


Which is why no country has recognized Crimea as an independent nation.


He was talking about the ones in Kiev (That the West put in via a coupe ).......... and you know that! Nice try!

P


How many nations have recognized Crimea?

What do you think will happen when Crimea joins Russia?
Countries will start to unrecognize Russian sovereignty for that?
I don't think so...


Actually, that is pretty much what will happen. Russia will be booted out of the G8, Europe will get its energy from America, countries will demand that Russian companies pay for goods in gold, and so forth.

Oh puhleeese, get back to reality mate.
I'm no expert on geopolitical events, but I do know that Russia is major world player, so you don't just 'booted' them from anything.


For decades, China was not a member of the United Nations, and was referred to as "The Big Blank Spot."



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:15 AM
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MessageforAll


Sources in Russia’s Defense Ministry say officials are considering discontinuing US inspections of national strategic nuclear missile forces, citing “lack of trust” as reason for the move. Inspections have been permitted by the latest START treaty.

Inspections of nuclear forces are the major instrument of the new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) signed by then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and US President Barack Obama in 2010, and in force since 2011.

rt.com...


Edit: DWO001 : How, beats me, interfax only shows headlines of various Russian headlines ( I think )
www.interfax.com...
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As Wookiep already stated, take the hint, and keep it to updates
edit on thAmerica/Chicago309000000k2014 by MessageforAll because: (no reason given)


Sorry. I'll stay on topic.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:25 AM
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Clashes have erupted between pro-Ukrainians and pro-Russians at Sevastopol. [AFP]



"This is our land. We will not give an inch of it. Russia and its president should know that." Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk



Ukraine will not give 'an inch' of land to Russia, Ukraine's PM has said. [AFP]


Aljazeera



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:29 AM
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DJW001

zilebeliveunknown

DJW001

zilebeliveunknown

DJW001

pheonix358

DJW001

Yusomad

maddy21


#Russia’s foreign minister has ruled out any negotiation with #Ukraine’s new government


oh well....


Why would they? Illegal coupist fascist groups should not be supported.


Which is why no country has recognized Crimea as an independent nation.


He was talking about the ones in Kiev (That the West put in via a coupe ).......... and you know that! Nice try!

P


How many nations have recognized Crimea?

What do you think will happen when Crimea joins Russia?
Countries will start to unrecognize Russian sovereignty for that?
I don't think so...


Actually, that is pretty much what will happen. Russia will be booted out of the G8, Europe will get its energy from America, countries will demand that Russian companies pay for goods in gold, and so forth.

Oh puhleeese, get back to reality mate.
I'm no expert on geopolitical events, but I do know that Russia is major world player, so you don't just 'booted' them from anything.


For decades, China was not a member of the United Nations, and was referred to as "The Big Blank Spot."

Just like I said, reality is much different than that.
For centuries Earth was center of the Universe.
That said, I'm stopping right here to the moment when you and I find something smarter to debate with.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:38 AM
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Actually, what I was being glib about is that it doesn't matter what a T-64 is...thus the T Rex joke....I was implying that a conventional war is so useless to discuss let alone the names of the weapons used to fight one...It is the nukes...whether satelite based, planes, tanks, subs, suitcases...the point is...that is the only point...NUKES....who gives a rats tail about the delivery system or the name or the size...quantity sure matters I suppose...that was and is my point....any war involving the U.S. vs Russia focuses on only one thing......NUKES.


T64s are the Ukrainian main battle tank T80s and T90s are the newer versions of the Russian main battle tank... aka no war with the US was been discussed ( no nuclear war ) just a conventional war to liberate the Ukraine from Nazis

newsnight ukraine nazis





Reporter - "Are you a nazi ?"
Neo fascist - "No, i don't think im a nazi, i am a Ukrainian nationalist.
reporter "What does that mean"
Neo fascist " The main confrontation is that some ethnic groups have control of business, econommics and political forces"
Reporter - "Like who ?"
Neo fascist - "Russians, jews and Poles."

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posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 09:41 AM
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It is in my opinion a very complex conflict. Which we've seen only the beginning.
I know some Chechen group were involved and now Serbians setting up check points in Crimea...



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 09:52 AM
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It's interesting to note that Vladimir Putin and David Cameron have had a telephone conversation today and Putin would like to find a diplomatic conclusion. Once again Putin is just playing war games and if he did believe this artificial problem could have been sorted out by diplomacy he would not have sent troops into Crimea. I think the flashpoint in this crisis will be on the day of the referendum in Crimea because Ukraine have already said it is illegal and they won't give up Crimea to anyone.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 10:17 AM
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From Interfax :
18:17
Putin, Merkel, Cameron interested in de-escalation of Ukraine crisis - Kremlin

17:59
Crimean leaders' steps based on intl law, Putin tells Cameron, Merkel - Kremlin

17:49
PUTIN, MERKEL, CAMERON EXPRESS COMMON INTEREST IN DE-ESCALATION OF TENSIONS, EARLY NORMALIZATION IN UKRAINE - KREMLIN.

Which is something odd considering that I read somewhere here that some of those " protesters" where sponsored by the party of the German councilor.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 10:59 AM
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The Russian cruiser Moskva is headed towards mainland Ukraine.


The flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet missile cruiser "Moskva" headed toward the mainland of Ukraine.
Told the head of the Center for Military-Political Studies Dmitry Timchuk on its Facebook page .
"We are tracking its movement," - he wrote.
As it became known, before this cruiser "Moskva" with the other ships of the Black Sea Fleet was blocking access to the sea from the lake Donuzlav where moorage wall are 7 Ukrainian ships.
In addition, there is information that a helicopter MI-8 pair 20 km from Kherson landed 2 reconnaissance assault group of 15 people.
Told the head of the public organization "Quality of Life" Alexey Goncharenko in his blog for the Ukrainian truth .
Assures Goncharenko, their goal - to prepare a base for landing tactical landing near Ckadovska. "Goal - Kakhovskaya TPP. Establish beacons to navigate, where paratroopers to land at night," - he wrote.
In addition, an activist said that preparing the landing battalion tactical groups and marines in the Kherson and Odessa areas.
"Odessa direction will be monitored 17 and 18 motorized infantry brigades Southern District of the Russian Federation. Much of the personnel of these teams - ethnic Chechens and Ossetians," - says Goncharenko.


This is very significant.

Reported in Ukrainian Pravda.
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posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 11:01 AM
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Hmm... am guessing the next Russian move will be after Crimea has joined .. I believe once Crimea joins the governors of other Eastern Ukrainian States might propose to join Russia ..
ON a side not India must be jumping with joy , Ukraine was India competitor for IT outsourcing and also a major competitor in wheat export , A destabilized Ukraine means $$ for India , and hence i believe you see India backing Russia ...



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 11:02 AM
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So if I'm interpreting this correctly, they are preparing to land troops on the mainland?
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posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 11:04 AM
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majesticgent
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So if I'm interpreting this correctly, they are preparing to land troops on the mainland?
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Yes. In the port towns of Kherson and Oddessa. Helicopter landings of reconasance troops have already taken place.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 11:25 AM
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asen_y2k

majesticgent
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So if I'm interpreting this correctly, they are preparing to land troops on the mainland?
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Yes. In the port towns of Kherson and Oddessa. Helicopter landings of reconasance troops have already taken place.



Oddessa ?? you mean Proper Eastern Ukraine ??



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 11:27 AM
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maddy21

asen_y2k

majesticgent
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So if I'm interpreting this correctly, they are preparing to land troops on the mainland?
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Yes. In the port towns of Kherson and Oddessa. Helicopter landings of reconasance troops have already taken place.



Oddessa ?? you mean Proper Eastern Ukraine ??


Yes, proper Ukraine. Actually its in the South.

In other news, we see increased activity on airfields in Crimea. Russians troops from Ossetia and Chechnya are being bought in now.
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posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 11:38 AM
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This is very significant and signalls a further land invasion. But I cannot seam to find any other info from other sites.

Can someone look into their sources. Thanks in advance.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 11:43 AM
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Danbones
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no it isn't


Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
Eric Shawn
April 26, 2013FoxNews.com
A jury in South Bend, Indiana has found that fraud put President Obama and Hillary Clinton on the presidential primary ballot in Indiana in the 2008 election. Two Democratic political operatives were convicted Thursday night in the illegal scheme after only three hours of deliberations. They were found guilty on all counts.

www.foxnews.com...

everybody on the planet except for you knows who the facists are
are you glad? now that thats out of the way you can start your re-education comrad

hitlers your mother

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did crimea request independance there pal?
show us...instead of talking smack
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Im confused who are the fascists calling Hillary Cinton and President Obama a fascist is funny actually apparently you have little understanding of what a fascist is because those two are more socialists.But the funny part is Russian nationalist throw out that Hitler stuff like an insult. See fascist are marginalized in most countries with the exception of Russia and some eastern block countries like Serbia.The KGB were fascists and as we can see Putin being former KGB you can see it in his policies . For example hes created a police state he throws any opposition into prison and confiscates their assets.This is leading to problems in Ukraine because like any dictator Putin believes he can do anything he wants in the name of the Russian people. There was just recently a protest in Moscow against Putins actions in Ukraine a couple of hundred people were immediately arrested andare now awaiting trial which seems to take years for Political prisoners.

www.washingtontimes.com...

one shouldnt brandish the title of Fascist if they themselves act like them we have a saying in America people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.



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