Sugar Daddies

Like I said. Does not apply were I am concerned. We are not talking about me here, we are talking about you and men in general of which I would not be a part of. Lets just say I am a different kind of animal.

Lets just state the obvious- you are a boy. You are young, lacking in life experience, and spend most of your time alone playing video games. Your lack of social skills has caused your rare attempts at human relationships to be painful failures, and instead of forging ahead and trying again, learning from your mistakes, you wallow in isolation, telling yourself you are superior to all the rest of the human race.
You have the basement to yourself, which is sweet, but your dependence on mom upstairs fills you with resentment, feeding a hatred of all women in general.

I would rather keep the discussion away from getting personal, and have patiently done that for many pages despite your insistance to the contrary. But since you claimed to be bothered by how much time you have wasted insulting me, I can assure you that you can give that up. I am not about to feel concerned about what a cellar boy calls me . Save your energy for battling zombies in your imaginary world.

Now back to the discussion of the topic....which, contrary to your claims, is NOT me and men in general. I have never done as the women this article refers to, and not all men in general would agree to do this with them.

galadofwarthethird


I do not really understand what your getting at. I mean sure love can exist without money,......

There we go again. You do realize that sentence is illogical. First you try to take something out of the equation which is practically the same thing, you cant be wealthy or very powerful as you said without money. So if you are attracted to men who are wealthy and powerful you are attracted to men with money. Do you grasp the fallacy of your statements yet? Or is that to hard for you to grasp?

You are losing your train of thought, apparently, (amongst all the other irrelevant ramblings about the history of the world being run by women and such....) No one has made any suggestion that wealth and money do not go together (LOL).
In the statement , "I find power and wealth very attractive in a man... Attraction is not love, money is not love."
"Wealth" in our modern society, refers to having money in abundance. I could add, "Power, wealth and money" but it would be redundant.

My statements say love and attraction are not the same thing. That is in response to your statement that-

money, power all of that = love

My opinion is that
money, power, all of that, can often be attractive (NOT LOVE)

This is an important distinction for boys and young men to learn. These girls do not LOVE their sugar daddies. If you get money and power, it will not make women love you.
If you get a girlfriend one day, and a rich man is in the vicinity, she will not cease to love you and suddenly be in love with him.

A guy can see a woman and find her attractive, and not be in love with her.


The point is simple, and I expect another "DUH, dude" from you as you change your mind and forget how many times in this thread you have argued the opposite.



You may find uneducated dumbass girls who use a similar way of speaking in which sex or gestures of physical affection are referred to as "lovin' " but it is not meant to be taken literally as a statement of being "in love".

Like I said all women and men go after what they want, and its been like that for pretty much all of time.

I do not agree. Many people fail to go after what they want, for many reasons. Fear, for example. Fear of being hurt, fear of failure, fear of rejection, ridicule..... the list is endless. Repression of ones desires and self expression is a rather common human condition.

Now I understand we are all just products of our environment. But why is it that some think that they are different or would be exempt from that?

Hahahaha! Why indeed, basement boy ??? You "different sort of animal..." from "us people"

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Agit8dChop
next time he gives you a few thousand dollars.. refuse sex, sexual acts, foreplay and see how much longer this '' non prostitution way of earning money'' goes on.

Prostitution is legal, as long as you have a camera to call it "porn" and also give the government free money called "tax".

Agit8dChop
.. and women wonder why men have no respect for them!

edit on 15-1-2014 by Agit8dChop because: (no reason given)

No all women do this.

Men also do this (the woman is called a sugar mama).

Whether you find something "pleasing and honorable" or "unpleasing and disgraceful" that is just an opinion based on your own values.

reply to post by Bluesma

OMG you like totally know me mam. Are you like one of them like psychic peoples, I so totally wanted to meet one of them and have my fortune told. So what other tricks do you do besides make extremely faulty queses on things? Do you perhaps and by chance also juggle or pull an extremely long handkerchief out of your sleeve? WOW you so like totally cool and stuff.

And you know last female that dissed my video games I showed her the door, no joke. You should have seen the look on her face, she literally did not believe the thing she was seeing, could basically not fathom it. And all because of a sneering comment about "oh you still play video games" its like her little mind could not comprehend that the world did not revolve around her or the things she deemed appropriate. A bizarre thing I know, and I generally take that stuff serious, any attack on my hobbies by snob nosed egotistic idiots I generally take serious. But I suppose I will let that slide seeing as you can do magic tricks and stuff.

reply to post by Bluesma

You are losing your train of thought, apparently, (amongst all the other irrelevant ramblings about the history of the world being run by women and such....) No one has made any suggestion that wealth and money do not go together (LOL)

Well considering that for the past pages that is exactly what you have been going on about. I just thought it was funny, what somebody who is trying to take out the idea and concept of money out of the concept of wealth all to appease there ego, and when that did not work they tried to fit it and mince it in other ways...Its like watching somebody arguing that oranges are not orange. But yes finally your agreeing to the idea that wealth and money are the same thing and so if you love dudes with wealth you love dudes with money, and from there its not that far of a grasp that you ultimately love money because when the wealth and money leave so does the love.

My opinion is that money, power, all of that, can often be attractive (NOT LOVE) This is an important distinction for boys and young men to learn. These girls do not LOVE their sugar daddies. If you get money and power, it will not make women love you. If you get a girlfriend one day, and a rich man is in the vicinity, she will not cease to love you and suddenly be in love with him.

Your under the impression that I am going by what you or they say. Negative on that part, like I said words are meaningless and the worlds of a female much more so. I am going by what you and they do...And what is it that the girls in the op did? Lets just say pretty much all you say has been found to be what i like to call bunk. And yes there are a great majority of girlfriends out there who one day when a rich man was in the vicinity they ceased to love there boyfriends and when they could move on they did. I am not making this stuff up, its just pretty much the stuff that most people do not want to look at but its there, clear as day.

A guy can see a woman and find her attractive, and not be in love with her.

Yes but what is you point? A guy can also see a woman and not be attracted to her and not be in love with her. Or any number of things, but generally the only difference between that for dudes would be if they had the means in making her love him. Of which yes again money is a factor, may not be the only factor. But that is dependent on what type of female your talking about, and also were your at, your ecosystem to sort of say, to just random things like how you felt that day.

But in all that is just a bland statement that means nothing. Its the equivalent of me saying a woman can see a man and find him attractive, and not be in love with him...Off course there would be a bunch of variables in that. In all it means nothing. You may as well said a guy saw and apple and thought he thought it looked delicious he did not eat it. It would have the same meaning as the above quoted sentence. Just bland statements, But I dont know, maybe for bland people that is like some sort of wise and witty thing.

You may find uneducated dumbass girls who use a similar way of speaking in which sex or gestures of physical affection are referred to as "lovin' " but it is not meant to be taken literally as a statement of being "in love".

The majority of those girls loving and in love are the same thing. But OK whatever, you can try to split them up just like some people split up the people they have sex with and the people they love. Truly a stupid thing to do.

I do not agree. Many people fail to go after what they want, for many reasons. Fear, for example. Fear of being hurt, fear of failure, fear of rejection, ridicule..... the list is endless. Repression of ones desires and self expression is a rather common human condition.

NO many people especially females merely tell themselfs that. But in most cases that is what they tell others. For some it is how they operate while dipping in other pools. Its what gets them off, you being in France the capital of quote on quote "love" would probably run a lot into them. I am quite sure there are many females who are afraid of this dreadful rejection you speak of, or this ridicule thing, but would not bat an eye at moving thousands of miles away to see that stranger, or putting more energy and effort into it then they every would in the other things there so afraid off...So ya what your talking about sure does exist, but its in now way prevalent, what is prevalent is the amount of females who tell themselfs that.

What it is really, Is that many people bull#, and females throughout the ages merely just found a way to make that work for them. So much so that they started believing it themselfs. Plenty of faker out there, anything from fake fear mongers to even the more rare breed of the fake sand pandas, in all I seen plenty of females and even dudes use that whole fear thing on one guy, while they seemed to have no issue about going full stop for another. And the bizarre part is that they believed both, but only did one.

Hahahaha! Why indeed, basement boy ??? You "different sort of animal..." from "us people"

Actually! Yes! Yes I am.

But hey listen. This is getting old, your boring me. Just admit that I am right and your wrong and you can go play bingo, or ride your little horsie, or play footsie with your old man. If this persists I may start thinking your another bored old lady who just does not get enough attention at home so she trollz the Internets. Besides I see little more reason to argue with you on just how an orange is not orange, I could digest and post down all the illogical things you have said but that would take more effort then I care to put in, and would make this thread pages and pages long of just me posting stuff.

Consent that I am right, and that your just making # up, especially on that whole love and wealth and money thing. After which yo may leave, and go knit, or whatever it is you do. Shoee fly dont bother me.

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Again all just a matter of opinions. And worse merely just a syntax of rewording to what is more palatable and appeals to people that is what they seem to be arguing bout and for, merely re wording. For every type of man out there there is a female who has formed the same processes to achieve the same ends only by more wayward means. And yes prostitution is illegal, but only as long as you dont have a camera. Go figure eh.

But in all they dont seem to be having much trouble finding both men or women to star in them. And we have all these shy ladies who have no qualms about being seen by millions of men in porn movies, and we have all these not so shy dudes who the thought has not even entered there minds and wold line up. And they dont have any qualms about finding sugar mamas either "whatever that is" yet the reverse is constantly being played upon, non stop.

When in reality there is little difference between the male and the female in those tracts, the only difference would be what people make the most clamor about. The acceptable illusion to sort of say. And so we have females making a big deal about sugar daddy, and we have men interrupting all that, like even in this thread has proven and every other thread asking were they could find there sugar mama. Merely transgressing on what is the acceptable illusion. But there would be little to no difference between the two.

Its all just saying a bunch of nothing, but it all says something. Arguing about oranges and how there not orange, I dont know dude have you yet met a wealthy man or even woman who did not have money and was poor? Does it not seem like a contradiction? Word to suit them, and all for merely what suits them at the moment. And when the moment passes. Well...So do they.

galadofwarthethird
if you love dudes with wealth you love dudes with money

If I find "dudes" with wealth ATTRACTIVE, than I find "dudes" with money "attractive", yes. I have already stated that pages ago.
I continue to state-

Attraction is not love.

A guy can see a woman and find her attractive, and not be in love with her.

Yes but what is you point?

Attraction is not love.


Many people fail to go after what they want, for many reasons. Fear, for example. Fear of being hurt, fear of failure, fear of rejection, ridicule..... the list is endless. Repression of ones desires and self expression is a rather common human condition.

NO many people especially females merely tell themselfs that.

Lots of men even avoid admitting their fear of rejection by telling "themselfs" that all women are stupid jerks instead.

Hahahaha! Why indeed, basement boy ??? You "different sort of animal..." from "us people"

Actually! Yes! Yes I am.

So I guess there is no reason for you to continue to ask why people like to consider "themselfs" as different from everyone else?
You can just look at yourself and your reasons for claiming that.

But hey listen. This is getting old, your boring me.

You can't even stop yourself from doing things that bore you??? You have a long way to go before you become a man, boy.

galadofwarthethird

And you know last female that dissed my video games I showed her the door, no joke. You should have seen the look on her face, she literally did not believe the thing she was seeing, could basically not fathom it. And all because of a sneering comment about "oh you still play video games" its like her little mind could not comprehend that the world did not revolve around her or the things she deemed appropriate.

Probably just disgusted to see how you run from actually dealing with your real life in such a cowardly childish way.
Even many men would have the same reaction.

reply to post by Bluesma

If I find "dudes" with wealth ATTRACTIVE, than I find "dudes" with money "attractive", yes. I have already stated that pages ago. I continue to state- Attraction is not love.

your still here.

OK I believe you. And attraction may not be love, but un-attraction is definitely not love, so? Ya attraction is about as close to love as your going to get, its how things operate. Considering everything you say is some contradicting mess, I would say your like some sort of used car salesmen trying to sell me a point which does not really exist.

Attraction is not love. Many people fail to go after what they want, for many reasons. Fear, for example. Fear of being hurt, fear of failure, fear of rejection, ridicule..... the list is endless. Repression of ones desires and self expression is a rather common human condition.

See there you go again. Sure what you say is true. In the same way that when I say that if you jump in a pool you will get wet is true. But what of it? Its all just bland statements you seem to like to attach to the general population even though it is completely nowhere in the higher percentages.

I said--> NO many people especially females merely tell themselfs that.

You said---> Lots of men even avoid admitting their fear of rejection by telling "themselfs" that all women are stupid jerks instead.

Jeez...Facepalm. OK again, can you give me proof of this claim? I mean can you provide one single piece of evidence? What you talk about is up there in the realm with Bigfoot the tooth fairy and easterbunny. In fact I can provide plenty of proof that bigfoot may exist, were as I bet you cant point to a single female out there in your surroundings or in general or even in the whole of history were what you say was true.

Like I said, and maybe you weren't listening. I did not say all that to make people feel bad, or to get under there skin, I said all that because it is not only what I see daily, but it is what is and was and has been happening for a long time. I fear very little, least of all rejection, and so do most men, and so do most women. The things you talk about are a sort of mental game they have developed and nothing else. What you dont believe me? Look around you...Now how many women do you see that would qualify of prof of what you said. I mean can you even provide one single case to make your point? Off course you cant because it does not exist like you say it exists.

Like I said it seems to be all in your head, and its up there in the same category with Bigfoot.

So I guess there is no reason for you to continue to ask why people like to consider "themselfs" as different from everyone else? You can just look at yourself and your reasons for claiming that.

No! What I said since I am different from everybody else. The rules you try to make stick to me would not apply. One would think you would get that by now.

You can't even stop yourself from doing things that bore you??? You have a long way to go before you become a man, boy.

There is not much on ATS which would surprise me or I have not seen before. Including this. So ya! you are boring me. I have chated with boring people before, it is not a new thing. In fact there are many carbon copys of people who are exactly like you which are running around on both this site and in the world, among females you would be just another part of the Borg collective. And yes when pressed a bit they all seem to cave in and there true self shows.

reply to post by Bluesma

Oh no! It was a done deal from the get go, I just needed an excuse to make her go away, short of just picking her up and throwing her out the door as that would be considered rude. She was one of those types were everything runs around her or around what she thinks things should run like, the very thought that some dude would like to have other hobbies besides what she deemed important. Well! Lets just say she did not seem to be able to grasp the concept. I merely was doing myself a favor. Something which over time and hanging out with females one learns and picks up.

Generally if I want to, I do. Its really that simple, and it really comes down to that for everybody, most especially females. I mean, did anybody force you to go all the way to France for your husband? Nope! The majority of things are not forced upon females, contrary to what you like to say. And truly the only thing the majority of females out there inspire me to do is to stay away and as far as I can, some even inspire me to build walls that reach into the heavens, and carve out chasms millions of miles deep and far, all just to avoid them. And that I have done. And sure as hell I ain't going back to that #. And if anybody thinks different, or tries to make me. It just may be the last thing they do.

But anyways. Seeing as you have nothing more to say, not like I think you ever did have. I think I shall take my leave of this thread and all the illogical things and banter you like to consistently expound upon as some sort of truth. Which off-course is anything but that. You may leave now. Do not respond to me anymore. Shoo fly dont bother me.