How to open the chakras quickly - it's about SOUND, VIBRATION (vowels) NOT visualization.

No need to argue, as a species our muscles of futility will never atrophy from lack of exercise.

Everyone is on a path, and eventually they all lead to the same thing. Teacher or not, belief or not, faith or not, dogma or not. Our consciousness is energy bound in corporeal form, all mental noumena that fills our consciousness comes from interactions of the senses experiencing other noumena, people argue from their experience, or argue from an experience that counters another's experience, or even argue with themselves over their own experience. The arguing for or against experience is unimportant. We experience things through personal bias relating to our own experience, this forms the self, all of this is rooted in duality and why it is unimportant to argue over it.

Most of what we think we know, is parroted concepts without any direct experience. You can tell some one what salt tastes like, but until they experience it they will not know it, even when they do their experience of salt will be of a different flavor than another's. So the arguing is simply telling someone their experience is too salty or not salty enough... just how do we know what is right or wrong for their tongue exactly? All we can do is relate our experience for them to compare their own against, if it strikes a harmonious chord they understand, if not then it is a cacophony of noise they will just ignore... they can't fault you for that and you can't fault them for that, but we do anyway... Out of our own ignorant hateful delusion, and keep it all spinning around in an apparent ceaseless cycle. Seeing this clearly knowing it's cause clearly knowing it's effects, from within aids a person to see the same process on the outside in others. Their pain and suffering the same as your own, creates a sense of compassion or oneness, you have walked in their shoes of pain and they have walked in yours but the knowledge that pain, hurt, suffering, loss, love, joy, etc. are the same is covered up by the idea of a self from a conglomerate of experience that they were not a part of when you experienced it, so how could they know what you know? We become arrogant with experience and argue it.

Does stubbing your toe when you were 3 matter? or the wisdom gained how to avoid stubbing it in the future? Do you really need to relate stubbing your toe or argue about how you avoid it against theirs? Of course not, but we do this with things we have deemed important, instead of respecting and tolerating others experience and wisdom, we are compelled to try and convert them over to our side or get them to validate our experience. The reason we do this is because we are unsure and insecure in our knowledge of the path we walk in life most of the time so we want company along the way a kindred spirit.

It's kind of ironic, that everyone wants to be friends and in harmony... but have argued each other into enemies over how best to become friends, sharing experience makes friends and enemies... so experience is a double edged sword of duality, please be mindful of how you swing it. We may not have started the arguments, of the world many like race, religion, politics have been around well before us. But for some reason we make a choice to pick it all up and drag the dead horse, when you seriously don't have too... knowing this isn't your burden to carry... laying it down; not picking it up and dragging it again, could be called enlightenment. Just like any other experience enlightenment has the ability to grow and mature with more experience after having lain it all down, it isn't an end of a path it is a beginning, and like all experience it's something that gets argued about. Even the fundamental truth that is easy to grasp as a concept and by experience... that everything is impermanent is itself also impermanent. If impermanence is impermanent... then what is there one could possibly ever to hold onto as absolute truth, wisdom, experience, being, enlightenment? No matter what it is; lay it down.

reply to post by GargIndia


I am not a member of Sahaja Yoga however the bija mantra given in that video are the same ones given by almost all people who study yogic science in modern times ie LAM, VAM, RAM, YAM, HAM, AUM. Now the real question is are these sounds correct in terms of the sounds the chakras make because even among Bija mantras there is disagreement. Add to that that there is disagreement about the colour, location and number of chakras too.

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Yes, I went to India, too. To the ashram with giant gold statues and "holy men" who looked askance at you unless you were there to hand over your life savings to them. The head guru was gone-she was in California on another speaking tour, selling books and DVD's. Sure, chanting seemed to work for her and for her already-rich clientele.

Why don't they put these chants on the radio? Or on flyers? It seems like there is not a lot of motivation to get them out to the masses.

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If you watch and listen and actually make the sounds that are given in this video you should feel if you are doing it right. The different noises vibrate different aspects of the body - with locations shown for each sound.

It is very good. Thanks for sharing Eisegesis.

It is exploited, so the best way to make money is to give a bean for the taste without the recipe.
They need you for their earnings, and so they hand out beans in the form of sounds and positions, how to's but not what lies behind it.

Not a very positive post from me, but that is how i see it.

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Lol. That's a nice one with Moo

When I don't understand something, or I feel that an idea is allowing insanity to propagate, my logic wants to attack it. I have learned to be a little more patient, gladly. The following is just my opinion from my perception, which we all have, one of seven billion universes viewed from the same sphere at this moment in time. It's hard to make them match but I try. I finally found find validation in this form of thinking, after three weeks of trying ideas within this area. I found no effect of being able to "connect" to something other than myself. Half of the posters here say just that, you connect with yourself. I hope the others that have different claims are not throwing limes in my orange bag.
If you need a powerful relaxation technique, a slight anti-depressant method, would like to clean up a foggy respiration discomfort or want a tangible self generated tool to be aware of your internals this is for you. The one thing I will add as unusual, and would be interested if others experienced the same. After a small time of doing it, feeling the vibrations I self produced, I became aware of the association of the sound and feeling. I now get a weird "phantom" sound and feeling internally, it occurs with out me doing anything. It's highly disorienting at times but I have a iron stomach for strange. I want to give examples and theories but I'll be more patient. Learning to understand yourself makes for more creative questions and possibilities. In my opinion you will never find a "how" when perceiving yourself but you may find the bigger question of why you asked.

Originally posted by Thorneblood
reply to post by filledcup

 

So can monkeys and they have yet to say anything intelligent in this conversation either.
Go figure.

oh do you think im kidding? i accept any such challenge from any scientific group. bring it! i will make the hair on the back of all of your necks stand. it will run down your spine and all over your hands, some will tremble and others will faint. as the machines show u data u may have never seen before in your lives.

i wont back down from any such challenge. and already know what the results will be and the expression of the scientists present, including what theyll be thinking as they observe: "wish i wore diapers today"

when they are ready for me to explain it i will do so with crystal clarity. i am in uncharted territory, there is no book that explains the place where im at.. unless it is hidden by the vatican.

I'm sorry but that is one of the worst interpretation of Hindu philosophy I have seen and I have seen a lot.

Root - Feeling Safe and Eternal (no matter what everything will be ok)

Yes, right, as in lie down, then assume doggy position and get ready to be penetrated from the rear?

Sacral - Sexuality, Lust

How about nonsexual or without lust?

Solar Plexus - Intuition (as in "gut" feelings), Will-power

The will to thrust something?

Heart - Passion (feeling "in love") , Compassion

Love without a partner, not in anything. All around the center but never in it because there is usually a person already there.

Throat - Truth, Wisdom

So the will to speak and say doggy style or missionary position? What is wisdom to choose.

3rd Eye - Imagination, Visions

Yes, even more porn.

Crown - Bliss, happiness

Right like a line from the bottom to the upper (99%) and then you orgasm at 99,99 and so on? And then back to 0 again like it's deactivated forever. That's the impression I'm getting from your post, can't help it. Maybe the usage of the chakras in the bedroom but not anywhere. Imagine you would think like that while standing in line in the Walmart, that's not how it's meant to be. Good luck on your studies, hope you discover your immaterial ears in the crown chakra and align them with where they should be.

Dunno about ya'll, but I find that, speaking in tongues is by far the best mantra,
there can be. Praise The Lord.

Originally posted by user12345
There is only one way to open the Chakras, first you need to finally realize what meditation is! Is not placing yourself in a seated position with your eyes closed, and empty your mind. This is not the way, this is a misconception of what meditation really is. Mysteries are not revealed to the vulgar, you need to use reason and listening to your instinct.

Why the we sleep? Is the question i ask you. Are you really sure that we sleep to rest our body and mind? What happen in our brain when we sleep? The brain activity never stop, only parts of the brain that are inactive during the day are more active during the night. The way for you understand this is simple. Meditation is a state were you disconnect yourself from the physical world, and connect to the spiritual self. Sleep is the true meditation. there is not other way to achieve enlightenment if not by a deep trance state (sleep). Does any one ever consider that we sleep because we have a psychological need to connect with our spiritual side? And if you achieve enlightenment you don't have the need to sleep no more?

A simple meditation is a pre-process of the real meditation, is a way to prepare the mind and body to the state of real meditation, is like a harm-up before a exercice, were you connect your conscious mind with the super conscious (spirit). And in a perfect control of Dream Yoga you will achieve enlightenment. Because is there you need to open your chakras is only there you can feel their energy flowing trough the channels that connect each chakra. So the secret to enlightenment is the opening of the chakras in the true meditation state (sleep). Enter into a true conscious dream state, and meditate on this problem. First let go fear, is the beginning to open the first Earth chakra, realize fear is an illusion, a projection of your unconscious mind, accept it and let it go. This is the beginning of the process. You will know when you open the chakra with an intense joy, something that you never feel, so you will know, and this is only the beginning.

so simple. and totally not rocket science. u dont even need a lab to figure it out. in fact.. u dont even need a bible or koran or anything. all u need is to be relaxed and peaceful underthe shade of a tree by the river bank.. and a man with no education whatsoever can figure it out.

Originally posted by TheSubversiveOne
reply to post by arpgme

 

Of course, nothing resembling the energy of the chakras has ever been detected or found, despite the extreme sensitivity of modern instruments.

What we have here is a thread on how to make sounds with your mouth.

People love disinfo..they roll in it. Bravo.

edit on 14-8-2013 by TheSubversiveOne because: (no reason given)

And the priests said the sun revolved around earth at one time. Just because a certain faith do not want to see do not mean there is nothing there. Thousands of years of the all seeing eye in all cultures around the world should tell you something about the spiritual nature of something more.

And even if there where no information from others I personally know how an enhanced body feels instead of a body that is usual as when I was young and how a body feels when it is very depressed. The sense of touch and taste can be amazing but sometimes overwhelming. Feeling your nerves all around your body activating in bliss like the body is an instrument when listening to music/sounds.

It is your loss if you do not see if you can activate your chakras or if there is anything to chakras. I was the same believing chakras where a hoax until I experienced it for myself. Sometimes the biggest enemy to ourself is our own narrow mindedness. And I still say that the information of chakras is too mystic still since science have not done it's work to quantify it into understanding. I want science to do the work so that the explanations become clear and not so much guessing work. Even the paranormal is for me quantifiable if you are prepared to do the work.

Speaking of sound.... once when I had taken.... something.

I experienced synæsthesia.

During that experience my thoughts had a... sound.
Different thoughts had different sounds.
Depending on what I thought it was like a symphony in my mind.

Makes me wonder if the vedas had some interesting substances to help with meditation.

This thread is awesome.I learned a lot wiph the posts.Thanks for all

S&F because this thread is full of useful information that just suddenly became relevant to me in the past few days. A lot of info in here is just what I was looking for. Thanks!

The most powerful mantra is the Hu (pronounced like hue). This sound can clear negativity in the immediate area. Using this mantra helps to clean and activate the pineal gland. The crown chakra is also stimulated using this sacred tone. Even more higher in vibrational potency than Om. The Hu was said to be utilized on Kumari Kundam (Lemuria) in the Indian Ocean. It was used for spiritual/vibrational upliftment. May also have healing potential at the cellular level.

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It is your loss if you do not see if you can activate your chakras or if there is anything to chakras. I was the same believing chakras where a hoax until I experienced it for myself. Sometimes the biggest enemy to ourself is our own narrow mindedness. And I still say that the information of chakras is too mystic still since science have not done it's work to quantify it into understanding. I want science to do the work so that the explanations become clear and not so much guessing work. Even the paranormal is for me quantifiable if you are prepared to do the work.

If by chakra you mean organs in the body, that makes more sense. Except you are selling nothing but mystical ideas and non-entities.

That's all people can ever say: "It's your loss..." as if that proves anything but the fact that you cannot verify what you're talking about. You're talking about nothing but your thoughts, and think by doing so, you are activating mystical aspects of the body. You haven't activated anything but your own illusions.

If in your mind is where you wish to remain...it's your loss.

reply to post by Thorneblood

So sound isn't a form of energy?
The human body is not affected by sound?
Ok....your beliefs. Enjoy them.

Why don't you say sound instead of energy? Oh yeah, because it doesn't sound as cool and mystical as "energy". Once again, you're making stuff up to fit your "spiritual" way of thinking.

There are different types of energy, not an all powerful substance called "energy".

Vibration in matter (e.g. sound) will eventually be converted to energy (e.g. heat) which can then be radiated as photons.

Originally posted by TheSubversiveOne
reply to post by arpgme

 

Of course, nothing resembling the energy of the chakras has ever been detected or found, despite the extreme sensitivity of modern instruments.

What we have here is a thread on how to make sounds with your mouth.

People love disinfo..they roll in it. Bravo.

edit on 14-8-2013 by TheSubversiveOne because: (no reason given)

Chakras may not have been found, but evidence that sound does indeed heal in cats is interesting wouldn't you say?

Or do you not trust Scientific American?

So perhaps there is something at least to vibrations and sound being healing in humans as well. Instead of completely and indignantly disregarding it there should be some more research.

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Chakras may not have been found, but evidence that sound does indeed heal in cats is interesting wouldn't you say?

Or do you not trust Scientific American?

So perhaps there is something at least to vibrations and sound being healing in humans as well. Instead of completely and indignantly disregarding it there should be some more research.

I never said anything about vibrations not affecting matter (which is a very ill-defined term). Vibrations do affect matter. Sound can also destroy. But the affect of sound on plants is also well documented.

And no I don't trust anyone but the ones who have proven trustworthy...