Obama Calls For Dictatorship In America! Communists Democrats Cheer! Treason Caught On Video!

reply to post by Garkiniss


Then please do explain this comment and enlighten me.

reply to post by ownbestenemy


I'm saying he's done less than most in regards to enacting executive orders, especially compared to recent Presidents. And he's far from declaring himself "Dictator of America."

Are you saying that the video in the OP is a legitimate announcement by Obama, declaring the United States under the rule of a Dictatorship, as the author of the OP believes?

reply to post by Garkiniss

Yeah yeah. Tons of things sound wrong when you take them out of context. Here's what he actually said.

"I want to work with Congress to get them done. But… when Congress refuses to act, and as a result, hurts our economy, and puts our people at risk, then I have an obligation as President to do what I can without them."

Well then HE should 'work' with Congress.

What has Obama really 'done' for the economy without Congress anyway ?

""as President to do what I can without them""

Maybe we missed something ?

Was that

""as President to do what I CAN'T without them"" ?

Originally posted by elouina
reply to post by Garkiniss

 

Then please do explain this comment and enlighten me.

You didn't catch the part about "wanting to work with Congress", or the part where "Congress is killing America's economy by not working to get things done"?

I mean seriously... read the quote, over and over if you have to. If you need more explanation than what is painfully obvious in those words, then english is obviously not your first language, and I can't help you any further.

reply to post by beezzer


Beezer,

That was my point when I posted that.

I was trying to show that when a President issues an executive order he is basically dictating that he knows what is best.

In addition I was trying to exhibt that the number of exuctive orders created by Obama was small compared to passed presidents.

ETA:

P.S. .. I am Still Not a Democrat.

Originally posted by Garkiniss
reply to post by ownbestenemy

 

I'm saying he's done less than most in regards to enacting executive orders, especially compared to recent Presidents. And he's far from declaring himself "Dictator of America."

Are you saying that the video in the OP is a legitimate announcement by Obama, declaring the United States under the rule of a Dictatorship, as the author of the OP believes?

Well starting from my entrance, I identified that the OP video was biased and gave only credence to how the current president of the United States has lamented on different occasions of not being able to act alone. Further, I highlighted how the president; an apparent Constitutional "lawyer", has publicly exhibited his ignorance to the separation of powers doctrine; mainly his ability to want to just "do things" if Congress is not "doing what he wants".

So is he the harbinger of a despot to the great American Republic? Nope; that fate was sealed long before the Great Obama.

Originally posted by Garkiniss

Originally posted by elouina
reply to post by Garkiniss

 

Then please do explain this comment and enlighten me.

You didn't catch the part about "wanting to work with Congress", or the part where "Congress is killing America's economy by not working to get things done"?

I mean seriously... read the quote, over and over if you have to. If you need more explanation than what is painfully obvious in those words, then english is obviously not your first language, and I can't help you any further.

He isn't the deciding factor if congress "is killing America's economy"; that isn't his job. Read Article II; here it is. Telll me, where in there does it define the Office of the President to be the deciding factor if the nation's Free Market economy is doing well?

Originally posted by xuenchen

Well then HE should 'work' with Congress.

What has Obama really 'done' for the economy without Congress anyway ?

Your logic is astounding. You should have your own show on FOX News.

Originally posted by Garkiniss

Originally posted by elouina
reply to post by Garkiniss

 

Then please do explain this comment and enlighten me.

You didn't catch the part about "wanting to work with Congress", or the part where "Congress is killing America's economy by not working to get things done"?

I mean seriously... read the quote, over and over if you have to. If you need more explanation than what is painfully obvious in those words, then english is obviously not your first language, and I can't help you any further.

Oh no I read this and so did everyone else. So because he perceives that congress is not working with him, then he is entitled to get things done without them. Totally justifies things. Yup... that makes loads of difference. You may want to add that to the constitution also.

Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
reply to post by beezzer

 

Beezer,

That was my point when I posted that.

I was trying to show that when a President issues an executive order he is basically dictating that he knows what is best.

In addition I was trying to exhibt that the number of exuctive orders created by Obama was small compared to passed presidents.

edit on 4-8-2013 by ShadellacZumbrum because: (no reason given)

The numbers are unimportant.

Imagine the executive order as a bullet. I can fire the "bullets" in the air, or in an elevator filled with people.

It's the target of the executive order that is important to focus on, not the number.

Originally posted by Garkiniss

Originally posted by xuenchen

Well then HE should 'work' with Congress.

What has Obama really 'done' for the economy without Congress anyway ?

Your logic is astounding. You should have your own show on FOX News.

Explain your thinking here....a laughing emote doesn't really prove Xuenchen wrong nor does yet another straw-man trying to deflect to Fox News....

reply to post by beezzer


I was not marginalizing the act, just showing by numbers that he was not the only one guilty of shooting into the elevator.

Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
reply to post by beezzer

 

I was not marginalizing the act, just showing by numbers that he was not the only one guilty of shooting into the elevator.

Apologies, then.

reply to post by ownbestenemy


Which article gives Congress the right to hold the nation hostage in
exchange of forcing their own personal agenda?

It's no secret that this is the most ineffective Congress in U.S. history,
and their failure in the House is tearing this country apart.

We're talking about Congressmen so hell bent on gumming up the works,
that they've even mistakenly filibustered themselves.

It's ludicrous.

Originally posted by ownbestenemy

Originally posted by Garkiniss

Originally posted by xuenchen

Well then HE should 'work' with Congress.

What has Obama really 'done' for the economy without Congress anyway ?

Your logic is astounding. You should have your own show on FOX News.

Explain your thinking here....a laughing emote doesn't really prove Xuenchen wrong nor does yet another straw-man trying to deflect to Fox News....

My thinking is, the door swings both ways. It could easily read:

Well then CONGRESS should 'work' with Obama.

What has Congress really 'done' for the economy without Obama anyway ?

The difference is, I see Obama trying to get this stagnant river we call our economy flowing again, meanwhile, Congress keeps tossing in bricks to dam it up.

reply to post by Garkiniss


So if Obama decided to extend his term, would you agree with this idea?

reply to post by elouina


He wouldn't. He's shown no interest in doing that.

Did Bush extend his second term even though he executed
twice as many executive orders as Obama?

You're grasping at straws.

America already has a Dictator. It's called the Federal Reserve.
It's been dictating our entire lives for the past century. You're looking in
the wrong direction.

reply to post by Garkiniss


No my hypothetical question was, would you support him if he did decide to change the law, so he can extend his term. Not whether he would or not. I am not grasping at straws here, I truly want to know. Answer honestly please. For real...

reply to post by elouina


No. I Wouldn't.

Even if I loved every policy he came up with, and was 100% on board with him,
(which I'm not, btw), I wouldn't afford him the role of dictator. No man deserves
that much power.

Originally posted by Garkiniss
reply to post by elouina

 

No. I Wouldn't.

Even if I loved every policy he came up with, and was 100% on board with him,
(which I'm not, btw), I wouldn't afford him the role of dictator. No man deserves
that much power.

Actually, I am quite happy you said this. It was the answer I was hoping for. For once we agree... Star for you.

The reason for this question was the troubling answer I got from my co-worker. I hope she is a rare nut...

Obama's politics are extremely right-wing, he's a fiscal conservative, why on earth do people keep calling him a 'communist'?