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Originally posted by mc4denmark
Originally posted by Leuan
Originally posted by mc4denmark
reply to post by Leuan
Exactly, you build, destroy or ignore. But that does not come from god, that is from humans self, you dont need a deity to tell you that, it is common knowledge, which our ancient ancestors knew to perfection. And they did not believe in Jesus
One can believe anything he wants to, as long as hes believe wont directly or indirectly have impacts on those who don't believe. Then we all can live in peaceful harmony
Building doesn't come from God? What? Where did we come from then? A galactic gangbang? Please. I know you're trying, but have some reflection and really ponder your existence.
Do you really hate this gift of life? Do you really believe it means NOTHING?
Wow, you are really stretching for straws here aren't you, It is not called gangbang, it is called the BIG BANG, or maybe it is really the big bounce, as some physicians have theorized.
The humans have EVOVLED, our brains have evolved to, meaning we where able to create new societies and BUILD weapons, houses and so on.
Come on, explain me why it took God SO long before he told people that he was the one, and not Odin and Thor, or the greek gods. Why did the Sumer's, Mayans, Aztecs and Egyptians all believe in multiple Gods and not Jesus? Christianity first got mainstream when the Romans used it for political and military reasons.
Try to use some common sense and pick up a history book ones in a while will ya.
PS where in the world do you get that I hate my life? I love my life, my friends and all the experience I have had.
It seems like whenever you feel pressed, you attack the person, the other one told me I did not take my life seriously, you told the other one he was a fool, and now you ask me if I hate my life ?! Come on dude, have some respect.edit on 16-2-2013 by mc4denmark because: (no reason given)edit on 16-2-2013 by mc4denmark because: (no reason given)edit on 16-2-2013 by mc4denmark because: (no reason given)
And those Christians would say the exactly same thing about you, that you where wrong and they where right. Sooo many people say they found god, but all have their version of what he wants. Its remarkable how many people who are "false" Christians if you ask the nex one.
Originally posted by mc4denmark
reply to post by Leuan
I would actually really like to know, if you believe that the world was created by God in 7 days, and that it is no older that 6000 years?
Originally posted by Klassified
reply to post by mc4denmark
And those Christians would say the exactly same thing about you, that you where wrong and they where right. Sooo many people say they found god, but all have their version of what he wants. Its remarkable how many people who are "false" Christians if you ask the nex one.
This is very true. Fundamentalists, who consider themselves the cream of the christian crop, teach a literal hell, a literal lake of fire, and eternal punishment. Literally. They will tell you any other teaching about it is wrong, and from the devil himself.
They would also say anyone not teaching a literal hell, is teaching false doctrine, and bound for hell themselves, if they don't repent.
Originally posted by HumansEh
reply to post by Leuan
Ok I'll bite,
Yes I declare that your (jealous) god is not real.
And I declare before all humanity that Yahweh your Essenite god of storms is a figment of bloodthirsty mysoginistic male focus. Which has been spectacularly sucessful in moulding human society to its own ends.
Originally posted by Leuan
Originally posted by HumansEh
reply to post by Leuan
Ok I'll bite,
Yes I declare that your (jealous) god is not real.
And I declare before all humanity that Yahweh your Essenite god of storms is a figment of bloodthirsty mysoginistic male focus. Which has been spectacularly sucessful in moulding human society to its own ends.
I
More proof you have no idea what we're about. I'm about done in here if this is the pinnacle of your thoughts- yaweh? I worship yaweh? The god of Israel?
What is "Israel"? Or what do you mean by that? The mapped Israel?
Fundamentalists, aka those who follow the fundamentals of the word, don't preach about hell and they certainly don't FORCE people to convert.
If you're so upset about seeing the words of Christians, then stop leveling accusations out of ignorance.
eta: to make sure you don't dodge: the idea of hell was a man made ideal from the catholic church. Whether catholics in the general population believe this, is up for debate
Originally posted by HumansEh
Originally posted by Leuan
Originally posted by HumansEh
reply to post by Leuan
Ok I'll bite,
Yes I declare that your (jealous) god is not real.
And I declare before all humanity that Yahweh your Essenite god of storms is a figment of bloodthirsty mysoginistic male focus. Which has been spectacularly sucessful in moulding human society to its own ends.
I
More proof you have no idea what we're about. I'm about done in here if this is the pinnacle of your thoughts- yaweh? I worship yaweh? The god of Israel?
What is "Israel"? Or what do you mean by that? The mapped Israel?
Go on then,
Refute the god of the israelites,
Father of your 'Christ'
Why have you forsaken me ?
Cause he doesn't exist.edit on 16-2-2013 by HumansEh because: (no reason given)
Father of my Christ? Wow. You have a pop culture idea of what God is all about. Sorry I don't know how to respond well to people that refuse to even read the 10 commandments or the core of the bible.
We know it has been changed, we know all about it. It's ours, remember?
None of this matters without the holy spirit, break! water
Originally posted by Klassified
reply to post by Leuan
Fundamentalists, aka those who follow the fundamentals of the word, don't preach about hell and they certainly don't FORCE people to convert.
You are obviously not a fundamentalist. And I didn't say they forced anyone to convert to anything.
If you're so upset about seeing the words of Christians, then stop leveling accusations out of ignorance.
I'm not upset at all. Nor did I make any accusations. I merely responded to a post I agreed with.
eta: to make sure you don't dodge: the idea of hell was a man made ideal from the catholic church. Whether catholics in the general population believe this, is up for debate
Dodge what? I didn't say it didn't come from the Catholic church. I simply stated what fundamentalists teach and believe.
Have a nice day.
Originally posted by mc4denmark
reply to post by EnochWasRight
By being not allowed to gain knowledge, you are being kept in the darkness. As such, your god kept Adam and eve in darkness, Satan gave them knowledge and therefor gave them enlightenment.edit on 16-2-2013 by mc4denmark because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by Leuan
Father of my Christ? Wow. You have a pop culture idea of what God is all about. Sorry I don't know how to respond well to people that refuse to even read the 10 commandments or the core of the bible.
We know it has been changed, we know all about it. It's ours, remember?
None of this matters without the holy spirit, break! water
Big words from someone who doesn't even know where Christianity got its traditions and beliefs. Christianity is the fruit of plagiarism. You can drop you armchair degree in the nearest waste basket on your way to the library, because it obviously isn't worth anything.
Jesus, Ash Wednesday, Christmas, Easter, "God", the holy trinity, baptism, the virgin mother...all of it was taken from cultures that were old before your Jesus is reputed to have been born. Go do some research instead of making a fool of yourself on a conspiracy website.
If you smoke, you get cancer.
Most statistics look at the overall risk of lung cancer, combining both people who smoke and those who have never smoked. Based on United States statistics, the lifetime risk that an individual (men and women combined) will develop lung cancer is 6.9%, or 1 in 13 people. Clearly this number would be higher for people who smoke and much lower for people who have never smoked.
Studies in other countries have broken down the risk further to differentiate between never smokers, former smokers, and current smokers.
In a 2006 European study, the risk of developing lung cancer was:
0.2% for men who never smoked (0.4% for women)
5.5% for male former smokers (2.6% in women)
15.9% for current male smokers (9.5% for women)
24.4% for male “heavy smokers” defined as smoking more than 5 cigarettes per day (18.5% for women)
If you smoke, you get cancer. This is the debt you pay for being a thief. On the other hand, if you work out in a gym instead, you gain life. Cancer is not generated by exercise. This is because working for the gift you receive requires suffering. Either you suffer as the result of being a thief and taking or you suffer first to gain the reward. God offered us free knowledge. Instead, we choose to take that knowledge and eat of it by our own hands. Because of this, we toil for our food (Knowledge). The fruit of the garden is what it can produce. God gave it in perfection. By transmuting the garden, we make our own fruit from the Carbon.
Link
"What are some of the health problems caused by smoking?
Smoking harms nearly every organ of the body and diminishes a person’s overall health. Millions of Americans have health problems caused by smoking.
Smoking is a leading cause of cancer and death from cancer. It causes cancers of the lung, esophagus, larynx, mouth, throat, kidney, bladder, pancreas, stomach, and cervix, as well as acute myeloid leukemia (1, 2).
Smoking also causes heart disease, stroke, aortic aneurysm (a balloon-like bulge in an artery in the chest), chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) (chronic bronchitis and emphysema), asthma, hip fractures, and cataracts. Smokers are at higher risk of developing pneumonia and other airway infections (1, 2).
A pregnant smoker is at higher risk of having her baby born too early and with an abnormally low birth weight. A woman who smokes during or after pregnancy increases her infant’s risk of death from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) (1, 2). Men who smoke are at greater risk of erectile dysfunction (5)."
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by EnochWasRight
If you smoke, you get cancer.
You know what, Ed? I'm SICK TO DEATH of seeing you say this. It is not true. What is true is that "IF you smoke, you MIGHT get cancer." Actually, most smokers DO NOT!
Most statistics look at the overall risk of lung cancer, combining both people who smoke and those who have never smoked. Based on United States statistics, the lifetime risk that an individual (men and women combined) will develop lung cancer is 6.9%, or 1 in 13 people. Clearly this number would be higher for people who smoke and much lower for people who have never smoked.
Studies in other countries have broken down the risk further to differentiate between never smokers, former smokers, and current smokers.
In a 2006 European study, the risk of developing lung cancer was:
0.2% for men who never smoked (0.4% for women)
5.5% for male former smokers (2.6% in women)
15.9% for current male smokers (9.5% for women)
24.4% for male “heavy smokers” defined as smoking more than 5 cigarettes per day (18.5% for women)
lungcancer.about.com...
I think you have a lot of worthwhile things to say, but I want to let you know that everytime I read this "declaration" of yours, I stop reading your posts.
I know it's off-topic and don't want to derail this thread (it's interesting!), but, please, stop saying that.
Originally posted by mc4denmark
reply to post by EnochWasRight
I am not going through all your C/P from the bible.
But:
If you smoke, you get cancer. This is the debt you pay for being a thief. On the other hand, if you work out in a gym instead, you gain life. Cancer is not generated by exercise. This is because working for the gift you receive requires suffering. Either you suffer as the result of being a thief and taking or you suffer first to gain the reward. God offered us free knowledge. Instead, we choose to take that knowledge and eat of it by our own hands. Because of this, we toil for our food (Knowledge). The fruit of the garden is what it can produce. God gave it in perfection. By transmuting the garden, we make our own fruit from the Carbon.
That is just not facts. I know plenty of people that drink and smoke and had a loong happy life, I also know people who where gym freaks who died early, and as such lost a lot of experiences. So you just cant put up like that.edit on 16-2-2013 by mc4denmark because: (no reason given)