MASS STABBING IN ATLANTA ! Mainstream Media Silent.

This was an interesting mythbusters episode www.youtube.com...

The carnage created by automobiles - in the overall majority of cases - isn't a result of people with violent intent deciding to point their weapon at some person/group for whatever warped reason, it's because lots of drivers are dangerously inconsiderate road users, and should never be allowed near a motor vehicle until they've overcome their tendencies to use mobile phones and all the rest of the bad habits associated with road fatalities.

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So, if you accept the Mythbuster's data to be useful, the clear suggestion is that anyone carrying a gun may as well just give up the ghost if a person gets within 21ft of them and hasn't showed his blade yet.

Good work, sir. You've just confirmed that hand guns are pretty much useless in any public environment unless you've been coached by the late, great-at-shooting, Bob Munden and have your hand gun grafted to your gun hand..

Originally posted by DaTroof
This SHOULD be reported, because it perfectly illustrates how much more difficult it is to kill without a gun. Thanks for the story and link.

Bleeding heart pieces of C***p. Some want people to think they are interested in saving lives. All they want to do is disarm the american public so that they will be unable to degend themselves against tyranny. People who are so deluded that they are unaware of the stalinist-mao-type of collective takeover that is going on right now in this country. While the ptb foster chaos and unrest they want us to be unarmed so we cannot defend against criminals. becareful the bed you make for yourself, you may have to sleep in it.

Here's a story you didn't hear about on the MSM.

Man Attempts To Open Fire in Movie Theater, Off-Duty Deputy Shoots Him.

Nasty event, hope everyone recovers.

However, the gun argument doesn't hold water as far as I'm concerned. Who exactly is advocating that passengers on flights should be allowd to carry guns? Surely banning guns is going to make zero difference with incidents of firearms use during flights.

Its also harder to de-pressurize a cabin with a knife than a gun.

Originally posted by merkins
Nasty event, hope everyone recovers.

However, the gun argument doesn't hold water as far as I'm concerned. Who exactly is advocating that passengers on flights should be allowd to carry guns? Surely banning guns is going to make zero difference with incidents of firearms use during flights.

Its also harder to de-pressurize a cabin with a knife than a gun.

I am strongly pro 2nd amendment, but I have to agree with you about passengers on planes carrying loaded weapons. Not only does it give a major advantage back to the terrorists, they could blow the lock off the cockpit door or threaten to kill flight personnel, but even the sky marshals who do carry guns don't have them loaded with normal ammo. They use rounds that, while still deadly at close range, won't penetrate the cabin walls.

Nope, I just don't think it is a good ideas to risk a reenactment of the "gunfight at O K Corral" at 30,000 feet.

Its getting to the point that one cannot even look at the news any more. So much saddness going on out there. It's sickening :-(

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Hardly an example of well-intentioned gun owner sorting out a rampaging psycho, is it? Did you miss the bit where the person who did it was a LEO, lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time to stop the gunman causing anymore mayhem, but way too late to have been any use had his gun been working earlier?

Originally posted by DaTroof
This SHOULD be reported, because it perfectly illustrates how much more difficult it is to kill without a gun. Thanks for the story and link.

People are shot all the time and don't die;Look at aurora 70 people shot 12 dead.Many victims were shot multiple times.Folks we ain't in Hollywood, to die you need to be shot or stabbed in a vital area or you need to bleed out.Many many people surive multiple gunshot and stabing wounds.

It doesn't matter if you are shot or stabbed if you are hit in a vital place and there is nobody near by to pile 6 of you in a car and head for the hospital or there is not a E.M.T. coming to your rescue, you are going to die!!!

That being said ,all mass casulaty incidents should be given equal coverage and not cherry picked.

Under 3 foot a knife is more lethal.

Over 3 foot a gun is more lethal.

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Auora 70 shooting victims 12 dead

Originally posted by bknapple32
Atlanta, 6 stabbing victims, 6 survivors.

China, 20 stabbing victims, 20 survivors.

Newtown, 26 shooting victims, 26 dead.



Not saying the logical arguments above aren't correct. But in a mass killing situation. A gun will harm more people every time. Thats just a fact.

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty
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Auora 70 shooting victims 12 dead

And yet, there are still 12 dead. Any in those knife attacks?

Originally posted by bknapple32

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty
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Auora 70 shooting victims 12 dead

And yet, there are still 12 dead. Any in those knife attacks?

All twelve did not have guns to defend themselves.

Originally posted by DaTroof
This SHOULD be reported, because it perfectly illustrates how much more difficult it is to kill without a gun. Thanks for the story and link.

Really?...

You mean like this?...

The Daegu subway fire was a mass murder on February 18, 2003 which killed at least 198 people and injured at least 147. An arsonist set fire to a train stopped at the Jungangno Station of the Daegu Metropolitan Subway in Daegu, South Korea. The fire then spread to a second train which had entered the station from the opposite direction a few minutes later.
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en.wikipedia.org...

198 people were murdered by an arsonist, and 147 more were injured, we better start banning FIRE, and smoke as well...

Originally posted by bknapple32

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty
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Auora 70 shooting victims 12 dead

And yet, there are still 12 dead. Any in those knife attacks?

Are you trying to say nobody has ever died in a knife attack?

With no research one comes to mind in china in 2010.Man kills 8 injures 5 in knife attack at school.

Originally posted by happykat39

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
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They would. Or a bat, or a bomb, or any number of other methods. People have committed acts of violence, on every scale, for a LONG time now. Banning guns would only make more defenseless victims.

That is 100% correct. Everywhere that guns have been taken out of the hands of honest law abiding citizens the crime statistics have gone through the roof. When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.

Very true, but those wanting the guns are less concerned about the crime rate than they are about taking over.

Originally posted by bknapple32

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty
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Auora 70 shooting victims 12 dead

And yet, there are still 12 dead. Any in those knife attacks?

Three died in this case, from a knife and a bow:

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That guy could easily have killed more. People die from stabbings all the time. Those that want to kill will find a way. With a gun, you at least have a better chance of defending yourself. I can't fight off some huge guy that breaks down my door, but I can sure put a hole in him with a gun.