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Originally posted by EyesWideShut
reply to post by James1982
It depends on your state what is and isn't legal. In MY particular state you need a Firearms Purchaser ID card. In addition to that the flash guard & bayo lug on the airsoft would magically turn it into an evil "Assault Weapon" were it an actual firearm. That standard magazine that holds more than 15 rounds? same thing...Jail.
Here if you walked up to a sale, didn't have an FID card and simply picked up a rifle...congrats, you've just committed a crime of the fourth degree.
Also, you don't know the history of the people having the sale, apparently that particular officer has been there several times. If it was on a DV, they can't have firearms, convicted felon? same thing.
If it's in a state where this type of thing is the norm (selling firearms at a yard sale) and the officer wasn't in his right, then it might be an issue. There's too many variables unknown to tell.
Originally posted by Sek82
reply to post by Kangaruex4Ewe
These people, while rambling on about their private property and rights wasted our tax payer money, plain and simple. Attention hoars.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
My hilarity at this stems from the fact that half of America cries about gun rights, then panics as soon as they see one.
Make up your f***ing minds.
Originally posted by kalisdad
reply to post by Ben81
While I fully agree that cops need to follow the proper procedure for searching on private property, I do not feel that this case qualifies...
having a yard sale is inviting strangers onto your property, including police officers.
would it have been different if it was a cop that jut wanted to see what was for sale while on his lunch break?
or a cop that was off duty browsing the goods?
you can't invite everyone onto your property(which you do when you have a yard sale) and then bitch when one group of people come and look at your stuff.
the police obliged the woman when it was requested they get off their property, but for her to insist on following up with a complaint is BS in my opinion...
Originally posted by HarbingerOfDoom
Originally posted by kalisdad
reply to post by Ben81
While I fully agree that cops need to follow the proper procedure for searching on private property, I do not feel that this case qualifies...
having a yard sale is inviting strangers onto your property, including police officers.
would it have been different if it was a cop that jut wanted to see what was for sale while on his lunch break?
or a cop that was off duty browsing the goods?
you can't invite everyone onto your property(which you do when you have a yard sale) and then bitch when one group of people come and look at your stuff.
the police obliged the woman when it was requested they get off their property, but for her to insist on following up with a complaint is BS in my opinion...
What do you mean I can't bitch when one group of people come and look at my stuff? It's my property and I can invite and exclude anyone I feel, including a police officer on his lunch break seeing what I had for sale. If I wanted I could say only naked people can come on my property. If you don't like my rules, don't come on my property. Some places enforce dress codes to enter, some place don't allow children, some places don't allow smoking...etc...if you don't like it the "rules" don't go. Just because your a police officer doesn't mean your excluded. I remember reading an article where the owner of a coffee shop wouldn't allow a police officer to buy coffee and sit in the shop. They told the officer they don't feel comfortable with police and asked him to leave. He did...
Originally posted by Sek82
Originally posted by Romekje
reply to post by Sek82
If they had probable cause, a search warrant would be easy to obtain.
They had no warrant, so they had no right.
And cmon, as if ANYONE would sell an actual M4A1 out in the open in a garage sale?
Law enforcement does not need a warrant to search or seize evidence that is "in plain view" if the officer has a right to be where the evidence is first spotted along with reasonable suspicion a crime may be in progress. Since it was visible from the sidewalk, they had the right to investigate further without a warrant.
It's clear to me this was a case of trolling for police response. Carry on with your police bashing, I'm walking away from this one as well.