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They "hate us" because we are infidels if we are an Islamic nation they would love us no matter what we have been attack for decades long before 9-11 but then again
A lot of times when getting in a debate with someone they always pull the 'well Christians didn't attack us on 911' or 'Muslims attacked us on 911' or something very similar. I am going to explain to you folks who may not be up to par with critical thinking skills why muslims attacked us on 911 and it is just a consequence of their nationality and our foreign policy
Am still interested in a reply to my last . . .
REGARDLESS of our interventionism in Muslim lands . . . the bottom line would be the same. The history of Islam is clear. The exhortations in the founding documents and countless elaborations or clarifications or interpretations by countless Imam's makes abundantly clear . . . ABUNDANTLY CLEAR
The history of Islam is clear.
The exhortations in the founding documents
1. Islam has as a major DELIBERATE strategy . . . appeasement and peacable conquest by birth rate etc.
UNTIL SUCH TIME AS 2. they have the political and/or military power to DEMAND conversion or mass beheadings.and enslavements.
3. That's ALWAYS BEEN TRUE regardless of what the nations around them did.
4. The noise that paying the tax and not converting is also acceptable is just that . . . noise. It is a TEMPORARY TOLERATED thing. Their GOAL--stated throughout their literature is CONVERSION OR EXTERMINATION until the only humans alive are Muslims. That's QUITE EMPHATIC in their literature from beginning to end. They have NOT repudiated such values and goals to the least degree.
5. Ruthless globalist interventionism by the USA et al is a convenient flash point excuse. Their goals would have been the same had we been a nation of isolationist Mennonite pascifists.
Again, Walid Shoebat's book GOD'S WAR ON TERROR makes such things abundantly clear as well as a wealth of other facts. He's far from alone in such scholarly assertions.
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
Exactly, and what better way to blame Muslims by blaming one of the biggest terrorist attacks that happened on 911 on them. How convenient.
My Muslim roommate of more than a year agrees with Walid Shoebat
Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Talk about bias! Sheesh!
My Muslim roommate of more than a year agrees with Walid Shoebat.
BTW, Walid uses primary Muslim sources for all his significant points.
The glib pretense that the other writings besides the Quaran and Hadiths have absolutely no merit or input on the lives of the average Muslim is nonsense.
Regardless, the Hadiths and Quaran have plenty outrageous stuff in them, alone.
So do a list of other experts on Islam far more experienced IN Islam than virtually any non-Muslim Westerner.
I still contend that OBL was set-up and used by the globalists. Of course it matched his own agenda, as well.
Your notions of what is false in my prior assertions come across to me as exceedingly biased and uninformed.
Cheers.
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edit on 9/6/2012 by BO XIAN because: addition
As a member of the PLO I was involved in terror activity, and was imprisoned in Jerusalem for three weeks. In prison, I was recruited to plant a bomb in Bethlehem as a result of which, thank God, no one was injured.
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by BO XIAN
Well then why did not the terrorists attack Canada 911 style..?
Why was USA the target?
Plus I don't know if you are still in contact with your roomy or not but ask him this question and/or show him this thread. I want to hear a muslims view on this situation.
In terms of Walid's conversion to Christianity . . . I was fascinated to learn that he was NOT procylitized out of Islam or into Christianity. Even as a teen, he began to notice incongruencies and brazen contradictions in Islam. Over time, HE STUDIED HIMSELF out of Islam and into Christianity.
He documents, extremely convincingly, to my chagrin, that MYSTERY BABYLON of Biblical Prophecy is going to end up being Saudia Arabia.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by BO XIAN
Looks like you expect us to take your "roommate" seriously, but my "christian" colleague is an invalid source , because you dont agree with him.
An updated and expanded edition of a best-selling and award-winning book! Raised as Sunni Muslims, brothers Ergun and Emir Caner converted from Islam to Christianity as teenagers. Now respected evangelical scholars and theologians, the Caner brothers are able to present an inside view of the Muslim life from a Christian perspective.
BO XIAN:
In terms of Walid's conversion to Christianity . . . I was fascinated to learn that he was NOT procylitized out of Islam or into Christianity. Even as a teen, he began to notice incongruencies and brazen contradictions in Islam. Over time, HE STUDIED HIMSELF out of Islam and into Christianity.
SO WHAT?
See, this type of reasoning works both ways....and we know discussions based on personal views tend to go nowhere.
Speaking for myself, I started moving towards Islam AFTER I noticed inconsistencies and theological glitches in christianity. I spent 10 years in christian educational institutions....where I caught on christianity out of my own interest. I spent another 6-7 years as a "christian" believing what most christians believe. I also spent a good portion of my life hating muslims and running anti-muslim websites....and now look at me.
I too can say I "studied myself" into Islam, and left Christianity behind. I'm not highlighting myself as unique or anything, but rather just pointing out that when in it comes to religion, people tend switch camps. The opinions and views of a muslim who becomes christian is no more "special" or important than that of a christian/hindu/buddhist who becomes a muslim.