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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ottobot
Mindfulness is not about analyzing each thought, it is about watching the thoughts pass by. The colors and patterns are just colors and patterns but humans make 'things' out of the patterns and try and solve it. Nothing needs to be solved, it just wants to be seen as it is without words and labels attatched.
I am not lonely because i am never separate from the present experience that is happening, i am present with what is.
People feel lonely even when they have families and friends around them, loneliness is not about how many people you have in your life, it is about feeling separate.
It is because people feel desparately separate (lonely) that they are so needy, this neediness brings manipulation and control and humans call it love.
When you realize that you are not separate from your experience, that you actually are your present experience and NOT your thoughts and memories, the loneliness, the incompleteness disappears. The fear of life is gone.
When you are selfish enough to put your peace and happiness first you will change the world.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ottobot
You do not have to build a dam to stop the mind, in fact it is dam building that causes the problem. Your mind is like a stream, take down the dam and let it run smoothly, climb out of the stream and sit by the side of the stream and be the silent watcher.
You are not trapped in the mind unless you are inside the mind. The mind is noisey but it is not you. You are the one that HEARS the noise of the mind. Just listen and you are free of the mind, outside of the mind.
If you 'think' you are the mind then you will never be at peace.
Originally posted by Thurisaz
I think what I really meant to say is that home is a state of mind. I was homeless for a while and yet I still felt at home and now that I have rainment and all the material stuff..I actually find myself wishing to be free of it and daydream about my homeless days.
strange but true.
Originally posted by ottobot
reply to post by LifeIsEnergy
Well you have a point, I do agree that it's pointless to do charity work just for the sake of doing it.I have never seen a point of doing something just so others can see that I'm doing it.
Incidentally, I don't do charity work. Sure, I give away my surplus stuff... but only because I like to share and I see that there are other people who could benefit from my surplus items which will just be wasted otherwise.
Honestly, I am saying that I would like to be a hermit. Not because I will "magically find peace" as a hermit, but because I don't particularly like people and I would actually like to be a hermit.
I understand that the peace I seek is already in me. As I have stated, I have found that peace on occasion. The issue is that even while I can pretend that nothing affects me and that I have no effect on the moment, it is a lie.
No matter how much of my own noise I can block out, there will always be the noise of the others around me to seep in.
I cannot stop thinking, stop doing, stop existing in all times because there are other people who depend on me for their very lives. Their present only exists because of choices I made in my past. Their future only exists because of choices I make in my present.
I have been given children to care for, and I must care for them until they can care for themselves.
So, as I said, I do have to work within the confines of this life which I currently exist in, whether I want to or not.edit on 3/5/2012 by ottobot because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
I would like to help you find home.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ottobot
God only knows.edit on 5-3-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Missing Blue Sky
I have move many times and have come to understand home is the refuge place you make for yourself where ever you are. Now home is where my couch and bed are...where I can just be. Ultimately my hope is home will be a spiritual one with God and all my family in heaven.
I'm not sure what to think about that. I've never thought about it before, so bottling emotion seems extremely foreign to me. But, now that I have thought about it for a second while typing the previous sentence, I think that it could be possible to bottle chemical reactions, pheremones, and/or electrical impulses with advanced equipment. Though, bottling doesn't seem to be the right word - record in multiple dimensions, maybe?
Overall research says that the beings can store or bottle up emotions coming from these events so it is a study.
You are reminding me that ever since then I have been looking for what I lost, and I have not found it even close. Before then I didn't even believe.
I'm not sure what to think about that. I've never thought about it before, so bottling emotion seems extremely foreign to me. But, now that I have thought about it for a second while typing the previous sentence, I think that it could be possible to bottle chemical reactions, pheremones, and/or electrical impulses with advanced equipment. Though, bottling doesn't seem to be the right word - record in multiple dimensions, maybe?
Well I hope you are able to find it again.
Originally posted by greyer
reply to post by ottobot
Today is the first day of my life I feel like a normal person. No deep thoughts. People are physical, they don't ponder all the facets of the mysterious, they just go from point a to b. Sounds fun to me lol.
The 'bottle' comment was a slang phrase. It means that they can 'take a pill' and feel a high from our emotions. I don't think they keep bottle of emotions but as they experience the emotions they bring it back to others and soon all can have the knowledge. Hopefully they have learned enough in the 100 years that they will simply just leave without even telling us they were here. Or they are in our solar system waiting for us to find them.
My thoughts were that it would be impossible for something like that to happen unless I learn some access, to the mysterious. The same can happen again, but I would need enough brain power to literally be a subconscious intergalatic being. Magic is something that will shock and amaze the individual receiving it, in order to present the magic that has been presented to myself I would have to be as mentally large as all of them. So obviously I am pathetic lol.
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
I understand. But again, the problems are arising because you are identified with the mind, which you are not. Thoughts come and go; "I am a parent" "I want to be a hermit" "I don't want to be lonely" "I don't really get along with people" "I love people", "I don't know who I am", "I want peace".... these are all just the mind spitting out thoughts that are in conflict with each other. The thought "I" is where all of these thoughts are stemming from, it is like the king or president of the mind, thus by definition the mind is fragmented and in conflict. Once this "I" thought is clarified to be incorrect, the mind begins to return to its nature state of unified tranquility. That is why I said, find out who this "I" is.
Allow the mind and body to be a parent, to desire solitude, to be lonely.... you remain as you have always been, silent awareness. Your child asks the mind for advice, for money, for help, and the mind knows how to give it to them. The mind knows how to direct the body to do the laundry and drive to school. Allow it to do that. There should be no need for suppression or contrived effort to ignore the mind, that again is just the "I" thought in conflict with all the other thoughts. Just watch the mind, allow it to be, allow it to direct the body and do what it does, and all will be fine.
Peace friend.
It's true, I do attempt to suppress my mind and emotions because that is how I have existed and survived thus far. Though, that silent Watcher has always been there and always been my solace, it was never allowed to be Me.
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
These two sentences are absolutely wonderful. Except that, you were suppressing the mind and emotion because that is how you THOUGHT you existed and survived thus far. The "I" thought loves taking credit for the entire beings existence, just as the dictator loves taking credit for the entire nations prosperity. Overthrow (let go of) this dictator (thought) named "I" , take its power away and render it as just another person (thought) amongst the nation (mind).
There may come a time when great fear arises along with the thought, "I am making a grave mistake by letting go of this 'I' thought, this identity I have constructed", but that is what all dictators do, they give one last push to remain in control by striking fear into the heart of their citizens, because they know the end of their reign is near. It happens to all of us, even happened to Jesus (in the desert) and Buddha (with Mara). Just be a watcher of this too.
Originally posted by ottobot
I agree, it must be a relief.
But, then, when I see those unthinking people doing unthought-through things I do not want to be like them.
I have no idea how to not ponder. It's pretty much my favorite activity.
Those boundless vistas of imagination and thought have always been my playground.
But, I do need to be the Watcher more often than not, so that is what I am attempting to achieve.
Yes, that's what I thought. But, I was still trying to think of how they might achieve that "pill" form. I can see that being a reality - pseudo-organic lifeforms with no emotion wanting to take emotion from others at all cost. This is not much different from the actions of any [human] addict.
No, you are not pathetic. You're just only using about 10% of your brain's raw power. It is likely that you will be able to master that "magic" (which is not really magic, just forgotten function) eventually. But, only if you are able to escape the confines of thought which are put on us by society.
Originally posted by ottobot
reply to post by greyer
Well, if they have been observing humans for any length of time, they have seen the pleasures humans are capable of experiencing.
They can think, they can analyze, they can compare. But, they cannot understand the importance of pleasure until they also experience those pleasures. So they figured out how to. Then became addicted to that which is not a natural state of their existence.
Of course, this is all just my imagination working, but I can definitely see something like that happening.
No, I don't know any good books about increasing brain power. Honestly, I don't read books like that because they are all from someone else's perspective. Each of our brains is different and we each understand how to relate to our own brain in a different way than anyone else ever could. Just start figuring out how to do things that you currently don't know how to do.
I started out by teaching myself how to wiggle each eyebrow independently, then each ear independently. Once you master the control of muscles you've never used, then you can go on to control skills you have never used.
Practice without fear.