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Originally posted by Leahn
Since you do not seem to refrain from discussing minutia with other people, what exactly is the problem? What do you define as a "productive conversation" ?
Yes, and I agree that it is a very weak, although not completely incorrect argument. They certainly believed it to be true, and no one alive seemed to dispute the idea that was true, despite many of them having been alive at the same time as Christ. What do you make of this?
Originally posted by alienreality
reply to post by yourmaker
I wasn't smearing your character at all, sort of funny you took it that way...
And about what you see... You only see what you allow yourself to see, and your seeing is quite biased towards yourself, judging from what you have said so far...
I have no ill will against you for anything you believe or know.. quite the contrary, I wish you well in fact..
Just trying to show that sometimes our worst obstacles can actually be ourselves, no matter what it is that we believe...It all stems from the negative virtues that people naturally have, like pride, stubborness, closed minded about some things while open minded about others, etc, etc..
Having a heart that is hard as stone will always keep new data from updating anyone's "lifecycle"
Just food for thought.. it can be good for anyone
Originally posted by Leahn
Since you did not understand what I am talking about in the previous paragraph, I will be more explicit. On another thread, I discussed with another member (maybe it was you but I don't remember) how the quality of the arguments found on the books usually advanced by atheists as "sure-fire defeaters" (The God's Delusion, Letter to a Christian Nation, etc) are not really anything new, and most of the arguments raised by them have already been answered many centuries ago. They do not go past the most basic level of knowledge of theology.
1. How do you know for sure, without a doubt, Jesus is NOT the Saviour as he claimed to "be coming back as he was going to prepare a place"?
2. Is it in your best interest to believe a "fairy tale", unlike Santa Claus who never claimed to be the Son of God?
3. What do you have to lose by believing (without calling yourself a Christian)?
Originally posted by Greensage
reply to post by traditionaldrummer
Based on the "end" scenario it is all about Us and Them! The Faithful and the Unfaithful. The Spirited and the Spiritless.
Its just very sad....that Jesus Christ is the only Deity that is being ridiculed here on ATS...or is that allowed to be ridiculed?....I don't know just wonderin ...why the vilifying and hate towards Jesus?
Originally posted by Dr Expired
Iam a tolerant individual who believes in freedom of expression as long as it doesn't bastadise without logical reason individuals or groups.
I cannot however understand why so many directly vilifying threads in this section are still open.
Its as if there is some form of conspiracy against Jesus Christ , that is being given license here?
Just scan the thread titles on this sub forum...if you are wondering about what this thread pertains to.
Its just very sad....that Jesus Christ is the only Deity that is being ridiculed here on ATS...or is that allowed to be ridiculed?....I don't know just wonderin ...why the vilifying and hate towards Jesus?
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
Its not just ATS my friend, Jesus of Nazareth seems to be the main target on many forums/websites. If you ask me that's just gives him more creditability of being the one true deity since he seem's to be such a huge threat to the non-believers who post here.edit on 7-7-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
Its not just ATS my friend, Jesus of Nazareth seems to be the main target on many forums/websites. If you ask me that's just gives him more creditability of being the one true deity since he seem's to be such a huge threat to the non-believers who post here.edit on 7-7-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
Its not just ATS my friend, Jesus of Nazareth seems to be the main target on many forums/websites. If you ask me that's just gives him more creditability of being the one true deity since he seem's to be such a huge threat to the non-believers who post here.edit on 7-7-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)