He is our president, will you EVER grow up enough to accept it?

Hes three years into his presidential term. His ONLY presidential term thank god. I agree it's stupid at this point to waste any energy on asking for a birth certificate. But I have to show mine to get a driver's license.

He hasn't provided it yet and he's not going to. The race card is really pathetic and played out.. Looking past color which as nothing to do with job performance. The man is statistically the worst president in the history of the united states. No president has failed to lead or printed more money to weaken our dollar or spent more to destroy our economy. Nor have we had one that has admittedly controlled the media or has been less transparent or has promised to do countless things and done none of them in the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA than our current president. Those are all FACTS check them If you like but I suspect you already know that they are. If the liberals even give him the nomination he will get less votes than Bugs Bunny.

The old race card who didn't see that coming. lol He got elected ! Americans as a majority don't judge people on the color of there skin. He's proof of that. It's all stricly job performance. He ranks below Cater. Who are you trying to fool. He had two years when he was elected where he had the house and the senate. He could have undone every single thing Bush ever did. He could have got passed ANYTHING he wanted. He had a blank check.

So yea he's our president now. I'm looking forward to him starting his book on how socialism will never work in a free country because the people will throw you out on your azz. The man is the laughing stock of the entire world. He's offended our closest allies and our country has never been in worse shape. I can assure you I don't care WHO is running against him. I'm voting for that guy and I would have to hate my country to not. Enough said dismissed.

Originally posted by Cataclysmo
reply to post by marcsnothere

 

People can grow up but you can still grow ignorant also. Sounds like someone just wants to play the race card. Hey if it was the 1960s I'd be the only white guy that's sympathetic to the situation but hey it's now a new world with black people who succeed often. Granted I cant help that a lot of them are rappers from the ghetto talking about how they get shot 16 times and lived or something stupid like that.

This is a very easy and basic thing. Is Obama someone we should have let into the white house? NO HE DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN. If you wanna pull the race card then pull your head out of the booty and understand that most white people now a days have nothing wrong with a black president but my view has always been to look at what he believes and stands for if anything it's the opposite on how this failure got elected. He got elected because most of the black vote went to him because he was a smart black man and they had to vote the "brotha" in. He got elected when half the people didn't even know what he stood for. And that my friend is ignorance. So before you rant and rave in his defence trying to pull a race card, how about try to think outside of your little racist world and see what others see.

Once again I'm not racist but I think there are good black people, bad black people, and ignorant black people. Sadly Obama is the latter. If you don't believe my "Nonsense" then that's cool I'm not trying to change any minds. But telling people to grow up on a political subject is absolutely absurd and I'm personally offended by it because you think that something as small as race has anything to do with the public opinions against him. It's your own ignorance in not knowing that the reason the people are looking for a way to get rid of him is because frankly he sucks. Since he's been elected the biggest changes are a stupid and oppressive healthcare bill, flaunting about taking vacations and personal business trips, putting the american people even more into poverty, putting us further into debt, and a straight path to more war.

Let me tell you we should just stand up and clap for him because he is a black man that knew what he was doing. Never fully believe that anyone knows better than you how your life should be run. THAT is called freedom and it's more and more being stripped way by people like him who thinks he knows better than we do what we need.

P.S. Sorry Admins if I went too far with my opinions.

edit on 20-4-2011 by Cataclysmo because: (no reason given)

I am not talking about why he was elected. I will happily debate that on another thread if so desired. If you read the ENTIRE THREAD, you would read how I want someone to tell me a REAL REASON as to WHY this issue is still an issue. I DONT WANT TO PLAY THE RACE CARD, but I am being left with very little other choices. Im NOT, I repeat, I AM NOT asking why people dont like him- every president has and will have his or her haters/lovers.

If its not race, then AWSOME! I dont want it to be! But no one can provide a viable, mature reason as to why we cant get passed something that has been proven as much as other president, if not more.

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YOU brought up race. You created a thread stating "He is our president, will you EVER grow up enough to accept it?"

So if people disagreed with Obamas' policies, it was because they were racist? Some feel he lied about his birth certificate. So that makes them foolish or racist?

YOU can disagree with Bush. I assume then that it was because YOU are racist?
YOU obviously weren't "aware" enough, or "open-minded" enough to accept he fact that Bush was our president.

Because YOU didn't agree with his policies.

Are you getting it now?

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BS, Since when was Cruesoe's Island part of the US..??

Originally posted by DarkKnight76
Well, so now, it's been what, three years and so far not on single shred of credible evidence pointing to Obama not being a U.S. Citizen. It reminds me of the whole god shell game. i.e. prove he exists, no you prove he doesn't etc, etc, etc. So, now that I have established that those who say he is American will never see eye to eye with those who say he is not, where does that leave us?

Beautifully written.
Where DOES this leave us?

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LOL..Wow..either you are a shill or the dumbest human on earth. You tell people they won't mature if they don't accept him as their president? LOL..you are a tool and you are the exact problem with this country and the mess it is in..It is moronic imbeciles like yourself who suffer extreme narcissism, so badly so it clouds your thinking,you use insults and arrogance as if it somehow dilutes your ignorance. The right thing to do in this situation you a$$ is to prove it beyond a doubt which they have not..And don't spew your retard rhetoric comeback."He showed his birth certificate der der" because they haven't..they showed a long form BC which you or me couldn't use to get a drivers license let alone use it to prove our birth or citizenship..so do yourself a favor retard, shut your mouth long enough to understand what the hell spews from it. If the people speak and say they want the form he show's it..end of story.Whether you like it or not or whether you accept it or not is irrelevant..Now run along you traitor shill and keep pretending you have a clue doofus.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by marcsnothere

 

YOU brought up race. You created a thread stating "He is our president, will you EVER grow up enough to accept it?"

So if people disagreed with Obamas' policies, it was because they were racist? Some feel he lied about his birth certificate. So that makes them foolish or racist?

YOU can disagree with Bush. I assume then that it was because YOU are racist?
YOU obviously weren't "aware" enough, or "open-minded" enough to accept he fact that Bush was our president.

Because YOU didn't agree with his policies.

Are you getting it now?

I never once said people were not allowed to disagree with Obama. Please read the entire thread.

Originally posted by Nebulous1973
reply to post by marcsnothere

 

LOL..Wow..either you are a shill or the dumbest human on earth. You tell people they won't mature if they don't accept him as their president? LOL..you are a tool and you are the exact problem with this country and the mess it is in..It is moronic imbeciles like yourself who suffer extreme narcissism, so badly so it clouds your thinking,you use insults and arrogance as if it somehow dilutes your ignorance. The right thing to do in this situation you a$$ is to prove it beyond a doubt which they have not..And don't spew your retard rhetoric comeback."He showed his birth certificate der der" because they haven't..they showed a long form BC which you or me couldn't use to get a drivers license let alone use it to prove our birth or citizenship..so do yourself a favor retard, shut your mouth long enough to understand what the hell spews from it. If the people speak and say they want the form he show's it..end of story.Whether you like it or not or whether you accept it or not is irrelevant..Now run along you traitor shill and keep pretending you have a clue doofus.

lol. you only help to prove my points. thanks for sharing!

I just hope for my sanity that Obama is only a one-term president.

I don't think I could take another 5 and a half years of ''birther'' threads on ATS !

There appears to have been a sudden explosion in threads on this topic lately, and they are absolutely infesting the ''recent posts'' page.

This is laughable! When I went to play little league baseball and apply for a software developer job I didn't say, 'Prove that I'm not a U.S. citizen' and they approved me! lol

The burden of proof wasn't on them to prove I wasn't a citizen. The burden of proof was on me to prove I AM a citizen. And I did this by showing them my LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

pretty simple. Don't you think its odd that all we have for proof is that a way left liberal democrat who works in Hawaii said 'Yes I saw it'. hahahahaha.

He could clear this up by simply showing his birth certificate. But he won't do it and spends MILLIONS keeping his past a secret. So much for transparency.

I'm guessing from your ATS username 'darkKnight' you are black?

Originally posted by DarkKnight76
Well, so now, it's been what, three years and so far not on single shred of credible evidence pointing to Obama not being a U.S. Citizen. It reminds me of the whole god shell game. i.e. prove he exists, no you prove he doesn't etc, etc, etc. So, now that I have established that those who say he is American will never see eye to eye with those who say he is not, where does that leave us?

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Remember when Liberals were burning effigies of Bush on TV?
What the hell would happen if conservatives burned a effigy of Obama on TV?
Holy freakn' Moley.....Liberals would give birth to twinkes!
Al Sharpton and Jeese Jacksons and a few more...veins in their heads would explode!
The KKK accusations would fly at them with the force of a hurricane!

Hard working moderate conservatives don't lower themselves to that level.

Don't you like the way it's one sided for some people to say things and get away with it?
We have to live up to their standards but they can do and say anything they want!
Just because of their skin color...?
I don't care if Obama was purple with green spots! If he was doing a great job! I would prasie him.
But he and his adminstration stink like a baby hamper full of a weeks worth of dirty diapers!

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I have no idea about other states present and past but I know that on my birth cert that my hand and footprint were taken and placed on the certificate. Maybe he should show a Real cert with baby bama prints on it.

First, I don't consider him my president nor will I ever. Since you enjoy employing the strawman, I must be racist because of my opposition to Obama....even though my wife is Puerto Rican/Black.

Second, using FactCheck for your sources? Wow....is there a way to "unflag" or "unstar" a thread?

i love obama..

good times ahead


consciousness is rising

Originally posted by marcsnothere

Instead of worrying about your racist insecurities because he is 50% not white, please attend to your inability to worry about real subjects that truely affect us as human beings.
Thank you.
Love,
millions of children...

You are right about the insanity of the Birthers and that thread. I agree.

You are wrong and Bigot though for labeling people who don't agree with Obama Racists and the "millions of children" bit means you are a groupie first and foremost. Intelligent people will only laugh at that and you it is so transparent. You must think that people who don't agree with Obama's politics are stupid and that is sad.

You want to help him get elected argue his point of view and the merits. You want to be a Bigot keep labeling people wrongly and spreading hate. Most of us are sick to death of the Race Baiting used by people with small minds, who are in fact themselves the true Bigot's. We understand you. You want to shove your idea's down everyone's throats and think everyone but you is stupid. Narcissists are lousy at hiding their megalomania and delusions of grandeur.

You work for the Obama Campaign directly, the DNC or are you just a groupie incapable of debate and discussion without resorting to childish name calling?

Will you ever grow up to realize that the U.S. President and the majority of Federal, State and local officials are nothing more than puppets with the Elite's hand up their asses? I have not voted in years because 1) It is futile when voting is nothing more than a ruse, and 2) I don't want to be associated with this tyrannical group and their brainwashing and manipulative propaganda techniques.

If you are so in love with TPTB and a "chosen" leader, may I suggest you avoid all mass media including television, motion pictures and radio for at least a month and research ATS during that time which should be enough to deprogram your mind and wake you up to whatever reality we still have available.

Originally posted by Blaine91555

You are right about the insanity of the Birthers and that thread. I agree.

All he has to do to put this to rest is show his long form birth certificate like I did when I went to play little league baseball. That's it. Not much to ask.

And I wouldn't call this insanity. I'd call it quite sane, because qualifying to be the president is a little more important than me qualifying to play little league.

Also him spending millions to hide his past doesn't put this in a positive light

Originally posted by marcsnothere

Originally posted by Habit4ming
I have no desire or need to see any type of birth certificate of Obama's. He may well be a citizen of the US, but he is NOT a "natural born citizen" according to the Constitution, as enacted by our forefathers, which is what I want respected and followed.
Who Cares Where Obama was Born?
www.newswithviews.com...

Why is the Right Helping Obama Rewrite the Definition of Natural Born Citizen?
www.newswithviews.com...

List of U.S. Presidents - Eligibility under Article II Grandfather Clause (GFC) or Natural Born Citizen (NBC) Clause or Seated due to Election Fraud
obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com...

Natural Born Citizen Defined
www.obamanotqualified.com...

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I could go on and on with links. Is this issue just a distraction? I don't know, but it's plausible. As others have pointed out, his policies are just a continuation of Bush's equally-abhorrent policies. Why isn't Gitmo closed? Why didn't he end these wars, as promised? Why did he go into Libya with the UN's say-so, instead of following what the Constitution says about it? And he even said the same a few years prior!! Even many Democrats were outraged about that! Well, you get my drift...

By these definitions of Natural born citizen-Looks like there will be a sh$% ton of us being deported then!
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Not a problem for me. I have a "long form" cert stating "Fontana, California" as birth place... and short form "record of birth" stating "Fontana, CA" as place of birth.

Next....

If Palin becomes president, I wonder if the OP will start a thread, "Palin is our President, will you EVER grow up enough to accept it?"

I'm betting, not.

People aren't keen on Obama NOT because of his skin colour!
The guy has gone against everything he said he would do and is now carrying on the plan of those before him.
What do you expect people to do......like him just because the colour of his skin?
If you think people hate him because of the colour of his skin then its you that are looking at race and not the problems he has which makes me think YOU have insecurities with race.