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G – Of course it is a lie. But in order for the challenge to be met I obliged myself to set up court and allow my accuser to provide his witnesses, and I mine. Thus I have permitted sin and wickedness in my perfect universe both heavenly and physical for a few days (a few thousand years, in your time frame.)
Q – So you are allowing suffering so that the challenge to your name and the challenge to your creation can be answered?
G – Correct. It hurts me to see the injustice and pain and suffering and misery that is happening. But I know it is only temporary. The questions have been answered. Man has shown himself unable to direct himself. I have proven Satan the liar that he is, as well as many of my faithful servants who have gone even as far as dying to clear my holy name. For with evil I cannot be put to the test, my child, nor do I ever use evil to try anyone.
Originally posted by Calendar
Q – God….Jehovah, may I call you by your name?
G – Yes child, please, call me by my name. For it is my name and it will always be my name as a memorial to all generations. And everyone that calls upon the name of Jehovah will be saved, for the name of Jehovah is a strong tower and into it the righteous run and are given protection.
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
I would be happy to hear any other of these so-called discrepancies you have and will politely correct your understanding about them, if you are so inclined.
Originally posted by Calender
Why do you think the Churches of Christendom do not use my name Jehovah? They in their stupidity believe that they have cunningly removed my name from their Bibles and hearts so as to mislead the people to believe their false pagan teachings and philosophies of men such as the Trinity, as if I am three people in one. But I only allowed them to be deluded in their delusions. They do not use my name Jehovah, because I no longer allow them to.
Originally posted by freedish
Thank you for this great post, I really feel God's word in here. My only problem is that I assume in this paragraph that He is referring to my church, and the doctrine taught by most baptist churches about the holy spirit...
My question is, if the trinity isn't true then why does God refer to Himself as 'Us' and 'Our' in Genesis 1?
"26And God saith, `Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over fish of the sea, and over fowl of the heavens, and over cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that is creeping on the earth.' "
Who is 'Us' (captalized to represent God) referring to if God is not a trinity? If He was referring to Himself would He not use the word 'Me'?
And what about in matthew 28:19?
"19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,"
Why are people baptized in all three God forms?
and what about here?
"I and the Father are one." (john 10:30)
and this...?
"If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me; but if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father." ( John 10:37-38)
and this?..."Hear O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one." ( Mark 12:29)edit on 6-1-2011 by freedish because: (no reason given)edit on 6-1-2011 by freedish because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Akragon
I would be happy to hear any other of these so-called discrepancies you have and will politely correct your understanding about them, if you are so inclined.
Actually im still waiting
Originally posted by Calender
(Joel 2:32) And it must occur that everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will get away safe;
(Zephaniah 3:9) For then I shall give to peoples the change to a pure language, in order for them all to call upon the name of Jehovah, in order to serve him shoulder to shoulder.’
(Exodus 3:15) . . .‘Jehovah the God of YOUR forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, has sent me to YOU.’ This is my name to time indefinite, and this is the memorial of me to generation after generation.
(Ezekiel 38:23) . . .And I shall certainly magnify myself and sanctify myself and make myself known before the eyes of many nations; and they will have to know that I am Jehovah.’
(Isaiah 43:10-11) . . .YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”
Originally posted by Calender
IT is a name, not a title, like God or LORD, and Jehovah himself states that Jehovah is his name to time indefinite.
"YHVH" is the Hebrew word that translates as "LORD". Found more often in the Old Testament than any other name for God (approximately 7,000 times), the title is also referred to as the "Tetragrammaton," meaning the "The Four Letters". YHVH comes from the Hebrew verb "to be" and is the special name that God revealed to Moses at the burning bush. "And God said to Moses, 'I AM WHO I AM; and He said, thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, I AM has sent me to you... this is My eternal name, and this is how I am to be recalled for all generations'" (Exodus 3:14-15). Therefore, YHVH declares God's absolute being - the source of everything, without beginning and without end. Although some pronounce YHVH as "Jehovah" or "Yaweh," scholars really don't know the proper pronunciation.
Originally posted by Calender
(Romans 10:13) . . .For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”
(Acts 2:21) And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”’
The Great Vowel Shift that began in the south of England in the 15th century is one of the historical events that mark the emergence of Modern English from Middle English.
Jehovah is an anglicized representation...and...vocalization of the Tetragrammaton.
Originally posted by Akragon
i could say so much about this thread but im not posting to derail it...
I will say one thing though, i knew quite a few people from this "group" of people "God" refers to in this post. They're anything but holy...most of them are full of judgements and prejudice.
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
If you want to say Jehovah is wrong in English then basically your saying the bible is wrong, and that is easy for an atheist to think that way, but much harder for a christian to, really.
Let them know that you, whose name is the LORD--that you alone are the Most High over all the earth.
Professor Henry Jones: The Word of God.
Marcus Brody: No, Henry. Try not to talk.
Professor Henry Jones: The Name of God.
Indiana Jones: The Name of God... Jehovah.
Professor Henry Jones: But in the Latin alphabet, "Jehovah" begins with an "I".
Indiana Jones: J-... [he steps on the "J" and almost falls to his death; he scrambles back up]
Indiana Jones: Oh, *idiot*! In Latin Jehovah begins with an "I"!
“Recent discoveries in Egypt and the Judean Desert allow us to see first hand the use of God’s name in pre-Christian times. These discoveries are significant for N[ew] T[estament] studies in that they form a literary analogy with the earliest Christian documents and may explain how NT authors used the divine name. In the following pages we will set forth a theory that the divine name, יהוה (and possibly abbreviations of it), was originally written in the NT quotations of and allusions to the O[ld] T[estament] and that in the course of time it was replaced mainly with the surrogate [abbreviation for Ky′ri‧os, “Lord”]. This removal of the Tetragram[maton], in our view, created a confusion in the minds of early Gentile Christians about the relationship between the ‘Lord God’ and the ‘Lord Christ’ which is reflected in the MS tradition of the NT text itself.”
Q – I have another question for you. What happens to us when we die? G – You cease to exist. When you die it is as if the light to a candle has been put out, it ceases. For the dead are conscience of nothing.
2Co 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2Co 5:2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
2Co 5:3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
2Co 5:4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
2Co 5:5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
2Co 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
2Co 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
2Co 5:9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 2Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.